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Male nurses

Again, I will say WHY are they called "Male" Nurses? A guy is asked what do you do for a living? "I'm a male Nurse". WTF? Can't you just say Nurse. We know you're male. Idiot.


Hi, I'm a male dentist.
 
I once made 110k as a male nurse working 3 days a week. That was 8 years ago also. Beat the fuck out of slaving in a hot kitchen into the wee hours with a bunch of central americans, huh needto?
 
gonelifting said:
Again, I will say WHY are they called "Male" Nurses? A guy is asked what do you do for a living? "I'm a male Nurse". WTF? Can't you just say Nurse. We know you're male. Idiot.


Hi, I'm a male dentist.
I concur!
 
i want to be a nurse

take care of little kids and shit

i will have to clean up my language though
 
fuck these people, when your making 80-90k a year you will get the last laugh! go for it!!!!!!

you will meet alot alot of girls as well
 
I am seriously contimplating going back to school for this. I just would feel weird telling people I am a nurse.
 
medical said:
I once made 110k as a male nurse working 3 days a week. That was 8 years ago also. Beat the fuck out of slaving in a hot kitchen into the wee hours with a bunch of central americans, huh needto?
I make over 50k a year and as you can see I am hardly at work lol every job sucks at the bottom but when you rise to the top there all good. :)
 
needtogetas said:
btw my wife is a nurse lol lol bwahahahhahha I got the best of both worlds

She's a nursing assistant you fucking liar, world of difference, "You want fries with that?"

This is the fastest growing profession for men, the job security is amazing, you'll have every hospital in your area and surrounding areas bidding for your employment. Incentive pay is handed out like it's candy; not to mention the poon that is thrown at you from every angle. It takes a real man to be able to live the next day knowing their patient died in their care, and there's nothing more rewarding knowing you saved or even bettered someone else's life.
 
keepingitreal said:
She's a nursing assistant you fucking liar, world of difference, "You want fries with that?"

This is the fastest growing profession for men, the job security is amazing, you'll have every hospital in your area and surrounding areas bidding for your employment. Incentive pay is handed out like it's candy; not to mention the poon that is thrown at you from every angle. It takes a real man to be able to live the next day knowing their patient died in their care, and there's nothing more rewarding knowing you saved or even bettered someone else's life.
hay pdaddy stfu my wife is a lpn same dame fucking think in my book.
 
needtogetas said:
I make over 50k a year and as you can see I am hardly at work lol every job sucks at the bottom but when you rise to the top there all good. :)
Be a nurse and double your pay. Less needto speak Spanish too. :artist:
 
medical said:
Be a nurse and double your pay. Less needto speak Spanish too. :artist:
whats the pont bro my wife is a lpn witch fuck pdaddy but its the same dame thing she makes bank and "I love to cook" it what I love to do its my passion its my life.why would I do something I dot like for just a bit more cash when my wife makes the cash any way.
 
needtogetas said:
whats the pont bro my wife is a lpn witch fuck pdaddy but its the same dame thing she makes bank and "I love to cook" it what I love to do its my passion its my life.why would I do something I dot like for just a bit more cash when my wife makes the cash any way.
True. Post some more killer recipes biatch! :) :Chef: :p
 
Not to bash on male nurses or anything, because I have met a few that were excellent at their jobs. However, I will add that where I have worked and also the places that I have been to (family staying in nursing home, emergency room visits, hospital inpatients, day clinics) there are not really many male nurses. I think honestly I have only seen about maybe 10 in the past 8 years that I have been in the medical field.
 
Angel said:
Not to bash on male nurses or anything, because I have met a few that were excellent at their jobs. However, I will add that where I have worked and also the places that I have been to (family staying in nursing home, emergency room visits, hospital inpatients, day clinics) there are not really many male nurses. I think honestly I have only seen about maybe 10 in the past 8 years that I have been in the medical field.
tell that dick head you are a lpn and its almost the same dame thing.
 
needtogetas said:
na bro lpn's and rn's are prob the most in demand profession there is just look in the paper

In my area of the U.S., nurses (especially male nurses) are super high in demand. Not all patients want a female nurse... and often, that's all there is. Male nurses are rare, for whatever reason, but it's good money and good security right now. (I'm basing my statements off of the 4-year bach. degree from an accredited program. I know there's 500 other nursing degrees, but I know little about those.) Also check into the job placement of graduates from the university. You should find pleasing results.

The male nurses = gay thing is about as passe as long hair on males = gay. No one talks like that outside of high school or internet discussion boards.



:cow:
 
fags
 
needtogetas said:
tell that dick head you are a lpn and its almost the same dame thing.
Almost the same thing as what?
A male nurse? Sure it is almost the same thing the only difference is:
(a) Male nurses have penis'
(b) 2 classes (nursing classes not pre req's) and I may be wrong but 1 more week of clinical..
(c) Lpn's do not carry the responsibility of fuck ups on their shoulders like a Rn
That is about all I can come up with besides the whole L.P.N and R.N initials
Yes Samoth Nurses are in high demand almost everywhere
 
samoth said:
In my area of the U.S., nurses (especially male nurses) are super high in demand. Not all patients want a female nurse... and often, that's all there is. Male nurses are rare, for whatever reason, but it's good money and good security right now. (I'm basing my statements off of the 4-year bach. degree from an accredited program. I know there's 500 other nursing degrees, but I know little about those.) Also check into the job placement of graduates from the university. You should find pleasing results.

The male nurses = gay thing is about as passe as long hair on males = gay. No one talks like that outside of high school or internet discussion boards.



:cow:
sam you should know by now I was just fucking around having some fun....male nurse is very in demand and there is nothing wrong with it.I just like having fun.lol
 
samoth said:
Is the above not true anywhere?



:cow:
It will only get truer over the next 20 years. I would advise any child of mine to choose RN over MD. Less work, less stress. Is you figure it on an hourly rate critical care RN's make more than the Doctors. I don't work as a nurse but I employ them and it is a sweet deal. I employ 32 nurses and 1 MD and most of my nurses make more "per hour" than the Doctor.
 
Why would someone prefer a male nurse over a female nurse?
 
anthrax said:
Why would someone prefer a male nurse over a female nurse?
I am not sure. I mean maybe a male may prefer a male nurse, who knows...To me they are one in the same exluding female exams..I dont mind if my nurse at my pcp is a male..The only prob that I have is if it is a male nurse that is assisting in my female appts.
 
Angel said:
I am not sure. I mean maybe a male may prefer a male nurse, who knows...To me they are one in the same exluding female exams..I dont mind if my nurse at my pcp is a male..The only prob that I have is if it is a male nurse that is assisting in my female appts.

So you don't want a male nurse assisting in your female appts but you can go (w/ or w/o another female) to your male appts?
 
Wootoom said:
i wasnt fuckin around go suck another mods dick



LMFAO!

thats the most truthfull statement ive read in the last few months...


suck it boy suck it!!!!! :p

goog to see some real bro's still here!
 
anthrax said:
So you don't want a male nurse assisting in your female appts but you can go (w/ or w/o another female) to your male appts?
wtf?!?!
I have no male appts..
I mean I like having woman in the room not men during my Gynocology appts!
Damn it
 
Bobber said:
Discuss...

smart guys....they get tons of tail. I had a buddy that was a flight attendant right out of highschool before he landed a good paying job and he got more ass than a toilet seat.
 
Angel said:
wtf?!?!
I have no male appts..
I mean I like having woman in the room not men during my Gynocology appts!
Damn it
Hey, relax, I'm just trying to understand

Do you have people specifically ask you to see a male or female nurse only?
 
georgie24 said:
LMFAO!

thats the most truthfull statement ive read in the last few months...


suck it boy suck it!!!!! :p

goog to see some real bro's still here!
hay georgie fuck you and your syst giving ip shit.your going to hert people on this site not like you have not already.
 
bro was you born last night?

IP have been serving for 12+ years strong.

he is connected in one way or another to alot your favorite sources


get some more notches under your belt and come back with a strong argument


good night newbie
 
needtogetas said:
hat georgie fuck you and your syst giving ip shit.your going to hert people on this site not like you have not already.
Hey, he gets blow jobs from married people and brags about it...Dont knock him. :rolleyes:
 
georgie24 said:
oh jesus im getting jumped by 2 newbies

l8ter guys i have some fucking to do
Maybe you should learn some respect..This shit is not by far any thing concerning who is a newbie and who is not..I dont care if you have been here since Day 1, I would still disagree with you..
Like previously stated, there must be some psycological reason behind your actins.May I pry and ask how old you are?
I mean think of this from a mature point of view,it is not normal.This is some thinig that I would expect from a 16-18 year old. I dont mean to "knock" u or any thing. But dude, braggin about getting a bj from a married chick....I mean really this is not about trying to be "cool, or fit in" like high school..This is life, and it is a bitch..So you want to screw around, everyone goes through the stage of screwing around and not having comittment..I dont say that is wrong at all..However, doing it with a married woman and acting as if you are the best man walking the earth cause you hooked up with a married chick, that really does not say much about your integrity nor the married womans...
Sure like I have said, people screw up and make mistakes...But dude, come one now. From a married point of view, it is found offensive and gross..
Please dont run off due to some "noobs"..I would enjoy to hear your mature response.
 
georgie24 said:
bro was you born last night?

IP have been serving for 12+ years strong.

he is connected in one way or another to alot your favorite sources


get some more notches under your belt and come back with a strong argument


good night newbie
hay bro bk has bin serving 50 mill strong before you were born you think there good shit to....the word is out on ip bullshit bro and its had its day.its fucking sent shampoo bottles and sent people to the er.I don't care how long its bin doing it its bin doing it to long.fucking newb my ass bro you got nothing on me
so don't pull your I have bin here longer card on me bro all that means is you and ip have bin slowly sending people to the er longer then I have bin here.if your proud of that then good for you pal.
 
georgie24 said:
oh jesus im getting jumped by 2 newbies

l8ter guys i have some fucking to do
you think you can hide behind your 2001 join time.how much have you realy bin here bro.not as much as me a can bet that.
 
I've had 2 hernia operations, and 3 catheter ablation proceedures. All I know is I prefer to have my groin shaved my a female. Let the males sweep the floors, or become Doctors.
No hetero wants what could be their last waking moments in this life to be shaved down by someone with a high chance of being a homo.
I'm not against them, I just don't want to participate. If that makes me a homophobic bigot - so be it.
 
i wish i could be a nurse

good pay. lotsa jobs. rewardijng career. and so much fucking tail to bang, it's scary. esp those filipino nurses. horny and slutty as fuck (but vindictive and mean as can be)
 
All you people that say male nurses are gay are fucking idiots. The majority of male nurses are straight. I am a RN, and I work ER. First of all, I was one of 25 guys in a nursing class of 140. I got plenty of action in school. Also, male nurses have driven up the pay scale for nurses. I make good money for easy work. Yeah some of it sucks, but oh well it is a job I can do and do it well. Believe me you do not want me to work on your car. And yeah, who the fuck said we wanted to shave your miniscule groin? You think that is how I get my rocks off you have another thing coming. It doesn't make you a homophobic bigot, just ignorant. I can have a new job in 5 minutes if I want. I can move anywhere in the country and be paid a bonus of thousands of dollars plus have my move paid for to take the job. And it is great to tell women you are a nurse. It makes them think you are all sensitive and caring. It is a JOB. All you people trying to drag some other meaning into it are mislead.
 
needtogetas said:
hay pdaddy stfu my wife is a lpn same dame fucking think in my book.

RNs are considered, by most state boards of nursing, to be professional nurses. The LPN is legally supposed to provide care for patients who are in stable condition with predictable outcomes, whereas the RN can legally provide care for patients of all acuity ranges.

Licensed Nurses are limited to unsupervised tasks and generally work under the supervision of RN's. Registered Nurses training takes 2 to 3 years of schooling plus passing the Nursing board. Licensed Nurses training usually less than 1 year.

LPN education is more skills-based, but the RN curriculum is more theoretical in nature.

LPN's can NOT push IV meds, and cannot hang blood or blood products in most states nor can they start or manage TPN (total parental nutrition). LPN's cannot do an assessment on a patient as well. I don't think LPN's can manage arterial lines, swanz, Piccs,CVC's or trach care either. Every state has their own nurse practice act that defines the scope of practice for the LPN and it does vary.

And let's not forget the +25K salary difference. So needto there is quite a bit of difference.

.
 
dsh89 said:
All you people that say male nurses are gay are fucking idiots. The majority of male nurses are straight. I am a RN, and I work ER. First of all, I was one of 25 guys in a nursing class of 140. I got plenty of action in school. Also, male nurses have driven up the pay scale for nurses. I make good money for easy work. Yeah some of it sucks, but oh well it is a job I can do and do it well. Believe me you do not want me to work on your car. And yeah, who the fuck said we wanted to shave your miniscule groin? You think that is how I get my rocks off you have another thing coming. It doesn't make you a homophobic bigot, just ignorant. I can have a new job in 5 minutes if I want. I can move anywhere in the country and be paid a bonus of thousands of dollars plus have my move paid for to take the job. And it is great to tell women you are a nurse. It makes them think you are all sensitive and caring. It is a JOB. All you people trying to drag some other meaning into it are mislead.

I don't think I could have said it much better myself.
 
dsh89 said:
All you people that say male nurses are gay are fucking idiots. The majority of male nurses are straight. I am a RN, and I work ER. First of all, I was one of 25 guys in a nursing class of 140. I got plenty of action in school. Also, male nurses have driven up the pay scale for nurses. I make good money for easy work. Yeah some of it sucks, but oh well it is a job I can do and do it well. Believe me you do not want me to work on your car. And yeah, who the fuck said we wanted to shave your miniscule groin? You think that is how I get my rocks off you have another thing coming. It doesn't make you a homophobic bigot, just ignorant. I can have a new job in 5 minutes if I want. I can move anywhere in the country and be paid a bonus of thousands of dollars plus have my move paid for to take the job. And it is great to tell women you are a nurse. It makes them think you are all sensitive and caring. It is a JOB. All you people trying to drag some other meaning into it are mislead.
Funny, nowhere does it mention that you became a nurse to help people get well. Probably explains the piss poor medical help people in America have to suffer through. When it's your time to get sick hopefully you'll get a mercenary queer bait sack of shit to care for you. Eye for an eye?
 
dsh89 said:
All you people that say male nurses are gay are fucking idiots. The majority of male nurses are straight. I am a RN, and I work ER. First of all, I was one of 25 guys in a nursing class of 140. I got plenty of action in school. Also, male nurses have driven up the pay scale for nurses. I make good money for easy work. Yeah some of it sucks, but oh well it is a job I can do and do it well. Believe me you do not want me to work on your car. And yeah, who the fuck said we wanted to shave your miniscule groin? You think that is how I get my rocks off you have another thing coming. It doesn't make you a homophobic bigot, just ignorant. I can have a new job in 5 minutes if I want. I can move anywhere in the country and be paid a bonus of thousands of dollars plus have my move paid for to take the job. And it is great to tell women you are a nurse. It makes them think you are all sensitive and caring. It is a JOB. All you people trying to drag some other meaning into it are mislead.

That's it...I have set an appointment with the nursing school conselor on Monday.
 
Male OR female, the medical industry as a whole is in high demand. It's been said before and is obvious, that the baby boomers retiring and getting older, they'll need a lot of care.

My wife works in Rehab (OT) and is ALWAYS being offered new positions. There just aren't enough people doing it. They're going out of the country to find help. They offer these people Visas and help with relocating, just to get them to work here.

My wife gets solicited 1- 3 times a week via phone calls or letters, to work for some rehab places. Sign on bonuses of $2000 -$20,000. It's crazy. They're desparate, what else can they do?

I know one nurse, she makes $90,000 year. Doesn't matter if it's a guy or girl. It's just a career field.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
Funny, nowhere does it mention that you became a nurse to help people get well. Probably explains the piss poor medical help people in America have to suffer through. When it's your time to get sick hopefully you'll get a mercenary queer bait sack of shit to care for you. Eye for an eye?

Those who do not have that quality ingrained in them usually don't last very long so it kinda goes without saying.
 
Not being a nurse but I am now a physician and done rotations in the US, male nurses are preferred amongst male doctors and often move up very quickly into higher specialities which garner more attractive rates. Many times, if you specialize are six figure income. Many of the female class of nurses are, just that, female class who engage in bickering and infighting and catfighting and just plain bitching> These lead to them losing doctor directed training which leads to more specialized advancement.
Since most doctors are men, most nurses are women. Doctors would rather train a smart laid back guy rather than pick someone from the cathouse den.

And to clarify something spoken in this thread. LPNs are not nurses and should never be considered a nurse. Their pay starts at 11$ per hour and maxes out at 20$ and no one wants to hire them.
They were a stopgap measure allowing uneducated people to do the MOST menial jobs in nursing at a lower rate to save costs.
Typically they had no education and could do limited tasks like clean after a person defecates and take a blood pressure.
The key to using these people was to completely eliminate their responsibility to make decisions b/c they were not proven through education to make decisions; hence the limited licensure they get after a few months of training. What that means is that a person not having able to graduate high school was able to take a few classes to perform very MINIMAL procedures.
As they lack the cognitive skills and decision making processes that could allow to assume further responsibilities to the direct care and the liabilities of letting undeducated people in the 'decision-maker' role.
Hence, this is why the distinction between RN and LPN.
Although, some may say they are nurse with an LPN license, they are in most medical communities regarded as not. Their pay is reflected upon this as well as an LPN median level income is less than 20,000 per year.
An LPN can advance their career but only if they can pass certain mental and proficiency skills test and thereby increase their income with the certification. The limiting factor would be the person's intelligence and motivation to do so.
Working as an LPN for 15,000 year over a long period does not make sense if they cut back in hours and become an RN who can make 50,000 plus depending upon specialty which the rate can go even further
 
keepingitreal said:
Those who do not have that quality ingrained in them usually don't last very long so it kinda goes without saying.
I can accept that. My little sister is a RN. Her whole self esteem seems dependent on helping others.
I will always prefer a female nurse, doctor, dentist, hygenist, flight attendant, waitress, bartender, hairdresser, teacher, ect.
Wasn't some of America's most succesful serial killers male nurses? I know I read of at least one that killed 20 - 30 of his patients. I'm just saying.
 
Vegemite:

Well you say they start at 11 and can go up to 20 then you say they make less than 20,000/yr. 11/hr is 23,000 per year, 20/hr is 41,000/yr which isn't too bad if it's as easy to become one as you say.
 
Your right I did not say that I became a nurse to help people get well. I said that I became a nurse because it is a good job that I am very good at. Which would you rather have, someone that really had a "calling" to become a nurse, but is an idiot, or someone that is really fucking good at their job taking care of you that is knowledgable about medications and disease processes. I do like helping people that need my help. I have saved many lives. I do not know how many. What the fuck have you done? Go fuck yourself. Your generalizations show how ignorant you are. I have been a paramedic for 11 years as well. You do not know me and you do not know how good I am at my job. So kiss my ass.
 
Wasn't some of America's most succesful serial killers male nurses? I know I read of at least one that killed 20 - 30 of his patients. I'm just saying.


Statistically, the majority of serial killers are white males. It doesn't matter their career field. What's your problem with a guy being a nurse? You get your pee-pee touched by one once, and you kinda liked it, now you are scarred emotionally or something? Jesus get over it already. So you don't want a guy to be your nurse good for you. There are a number of people that really like having a male nurse, and it is a good job. BTW there are gay people in every industry, probably even in your career field.
 
dsh89 said:
Your right I did not say that I became a nurse to help people get well. I said that I became a nurse because it is a good job that I am very good at. Which would you rather have, someone that really had a "calling" to become a nurse, but is an idiot, or someone that is really fucking good at their job taking care of you that is knowledgable about medications and disease processes. I do like helping people that need my help. I have saved many lives. I do not know how many. What the fuck have you done? Go fuck yourself. Your generalizations show how ignorant you are. I have been a paramedic for 11 years as well. You do not know me and you do not know how good I am at my job. So kiss my ass.
1) No I won't kiss your ass, or fuck myself. Your the nurse not me.
2) I apologize for some (not all) of my comments, I made some unkind, ignorant remarks that I shouldn't have. I've had several medical issues, and off hand I can say some male medical personal have been helpfull, but most where a waist of time, money, and blood (mine).
3) You've saved lives. Good, that's what your paid to do. 2 weeks ago I stopped a gunman from killing the bartender and whoever else got in his way, at the bar I work at. I got shot in the shoulder in the process. I can say that 1 male patron, and 3 female patrons (one a Dr of vet.) where helpful. One female paramedic was helpful. 1 female, and 1 male police officer was helpfull. Everyone else was as useless as tits on a bore, including everyone in the trama unit. In the 2 follow up visits 1 female nurse was helpfull, and again every male in that profesion was worse than useless. My insurance and the owner of the bar are paying huge money for incompetent medical help in a field dominated by males. I have 200 grains of lead in my shoulder that is fucking up my bench press because the trama surgeon didn't want to cut it out. Maybe that was a valid decision, but he doesn't deserve to get paid for scatching his head. Oh yeah, 1 male nurse got me a sprite, maybe that was you saving my life? Sorry I'm being rude again.
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4) Seriously, this country is facing severe medical problems, and I have none of the answers. Your good at your job, and I take that claim at face value.
Best regards.
 
So, some of you guys are very knowledgable about this stuff. I'll get a straight answer now.... If someone asks you what it is you do for a living, what do you tell them? "Male nurse" or just "Nurse"? or Do you simply say "Talk to the hand!"? lol jk about that last part.


Honestly, it should be called Doctors assistant or something. Medical liason lol I don't know, but not Nurse. It's too genderized I think.
 
Because you had a bad experience, you cannot generalize everyone in a profession. I did bouncer work for years. Got stabbed a couple times in the process. Been shot at, fortunately never hit. I have had piss poor medical attention too when I had a severe car accident and had massive internal injuries, but I do not take that out on everyone in the profession. I am sorry you had bad care. It does make all of us look bad, but that is simply not the case.

To answer Gonelifting's question, I say that I am a nurse. It is what I am. I have no problem with that. Like I said, I am also still a paramedic. But nursing is good money and a good career.
 
chewyxrage said:
Vegemite:

Well you say they start at 11 and can go up to 20 then you say they make less than 20,000/yr. 11/hr is 23,000 per year, 20/hr is 41,000/yr which isn't too bad if it's as easy to become one as you say.

Well I forgot specifying taxes and if a person works 40 hours per week which may be limited due to taxes.
It is definitely not an intensive career. There is the bare minimum of education with no opportunity for advancement.
That differs dramatically with an RN degree which is usually at minimum 3 years rather than 1 year of education.
RN programs are difficult to get into b/c of substantial contact with patients where as an LPN license is easy to get.
Most nursing schools do extensive background checks, meaning no assaults, driving while intoxicated, fighting etc... anything harmful to the common good.
That prevents people from getting the status.
An RN typically does a year of pre-requisites in chemistry, anatomy and physiology, etc...
An LPN is a crash course in how to do simple procedures, so they do not have the background education to 'learn'.
I know it may be hard to understand, but in an RN education, there is more upfront requirements as far as knowing the human body as a basis, then, they do two years INTENSIVE training after that.
The difference is huge after a person (all things being equal) going through a one year LPN certificate and that of an RN.
Once an RN is done, they are still newbs and require much more on the job training.
They are given that training b/c they were deemed intellectually and intelligent enough to pass the RN training as to deem worthy of the additional training which is costly and time-consuming. Which is not, in nearly all cases, given to an LPN.
So follow me if you can:
1) an LPN lacks the critical background education to understand future complex procedures.
2) An RN has basically proven intelligence and capabilities necessary to advance in the field of nursing.

So if you cannot figure it out yet. An LPN is a body commidity that get the most menial jobs done that an RN does not want to do while they learn more.
Its a graduated system. CNA is directed by an LPN which is directed by an RN.
Often times CNA, which is a nursing assistant who wipes butts and takes blood pressures is often an even cheaper form of LPN. LPN has more training, rather than 90 days for a CNA, it is one year for an LPN.
The pay difference is not much different for CNA and LPN. They have almost no chance of moving up.

The RN position, which is a tougher procedure having to understand chemistry, math and medicines, since if they dont, they can literally kill a person.
Has shown, not they are a better person, but they have the intelligence to be in a position.
Now, news articles are replete with nurse's foulups resulting in patient death. The standards should be tightened further but there would be an even furth nursing shortage b/c doctors are expensive and many times nurses are required to make healthcare decisions beyond their education.

You would NEVER want a person with only a year of training in how to wipe butts, clean wounds and take blood pressures in the role of an RN.

It reminds of MASH, the TV show, they with education knew probably less than RNs today with all that is known now. But they were smart enough to save lives and learn and progress (and in reality, they made saving lives with their procedures documented advanced knowledge).
Bottom line, RNs are the new docs of tomorrow with healthcare system and its going to be led by male RNs.
And yes it is stupid to call them male nurses as it is to call prostitutes, female prostitutes.
But when enter the system their is much more prestige to it which soon follows.
LPNs on the other hand are on the periphery. They do a valuable service, those that no one else will do and they can get paid for it well. But anyone can get trained for it. Its basically wiping and feeding.
Unless 'the' person demonstrates the ability to learn and the ability to be educated, they usually just wear that label as LPN.
I mean the difference may seem small, 1 versus 3 years of education. But the washout rate of nursing school is huge. Keeps the public safe though
 
Here in the US, one can be an RN with a two year program from a community college. I've dated quite a few RN's and most had two year degrees.
 
needtogetas said:
whats the pont bro my wife is a lpn witch fuck pdaddy but its the same dame thing she makes bank and "I love to cook" it what I love to do its my passion its my life.why would I do something I dot like for just a bit more cash when my wife makes the cash any way.
angel works?
 
vegemitesammich said:
Well I forgot specifying taxes and if a person works 40 hours per week which may be limited due to taxes.
It is definitely not an intensive career. There is the bare minimum of education with no opportunity for advancement.
That differs dramatically with an RN degree which is usually at minimum 3 years rather than 1 year of education.
RN programs are difficult to get into b/c of substantial contact with patients where as an LPN license is easy to get.
Most nursing schools do extensive background checks, meaning no assaults, driving while intoxicated, fighting etc... anything harmful to the common good.
That prevents people from getting the status.
An RN typically does a year of pre-requisites in chemistry, anatomy and physiology, etc...
An LPN is a crash course in how to do simple procedures, so they do not have the background education to 'learn'.
I know it may be hard to understand, but in an RN education, there is more upfront requirements as far as knowing the human body as a basis, then, they do two years INTENSIVE training after that.
The difference is huge after a person (all things being equal) going through a one year LPN certificate and that of an RN.
Once an RN is done, they are still newbs and require much more on the job training.
They are given that training b/c they were deemed intellectually and intelligent enough to pass the RN training as to deem worthy of the additional training which is costly and time-consuming. Which is not, in nearly all cases, given to an LPN.
So follow me if you can:
1) an LPN lacks the critical background education to understand future complex procedures.
2) An RN has basically proven intelligence and capabilities necessary to advance in the field of nursing.

So if you cannot figure it out yet. An LPN is a body commidity that get the most menial jobs done that an RN does not want to do while they learn more.
Its a graduated system. CNA is directed by an LPN which is directed by an RN.
Often times CNA, which is a nursing assistant who wipes butts and takes blood pressures is often an even cheaper form of LPN. LPN has more training, rather than 90 days for a CNA, it is one year for an LPN.
The pay difference is not much different for CNA and LPN. They have almost no chance of moving up.

The RN position, which is a tougher procedure having to understand chemistry, math and medicines, since if they dont, they can literally kill a person.
Has shown, not they are a better person, but they have the intelligence to be in a position.
Now, news articles are replete with nurse's foulups resulting in patient death. The standards should be tightened further but there would be an even furth nursing shortage b/c doctors are expensive and many times nurses are required to make healthcare decisions beyond their education.

You would NEVER want a person with only a year of training in how to wipe butts, clean wounds and take blood pressures in the role of an RN.

It reminds of MASH, the TV show, they with education knew probably less than RNs today with all that is known now. But they were smart enough to save lives and learn and progress (and in reality, they made saving lives with their procedures documented advanced knowledge).
Bottom line, RNs are the new docs of tomorrow with healthcare system and its going to be led by male RNs.
And yes it is stupid to call them male nurses as it is to call prostitutes, female prostitutes.
But when enter the system their is much more prestige to it which soon follows.
LPNs on the other hand are on the periphery. They do a valuable service, those that no one else will do and they can get paid for it well. But anyone can get trained for it. Its basically wiping and feeding.
Unless 'the' person demonstrates the ability to learn and the ability to be educated, they usually just wear that label as LPN.
I mean the difference may seem small, 1 versus 3 years of education. But the washout rate of nursing school is huge. Keeps the public safe though
where does a CNA fit into the mix? isnt CNA like an 8 week course or something?
 
There are different levels of degrees for RN's. There is an Associate's Degree, which is a 2 year course after all the prereq's, a Bachelor's Degree which is a 4 year program, and Master's Degree, which goes even further. Plus, as a RN, you can go in to being a Certified Registered Nurse Anesthesiologist, or go in to a Nurse Pracitioner or Physician's Assistant program.

CNA's are not even close to nurses. The course is like 8 weeks. They simply help do vital signs, bathe patients, and assist nurses in menial tasks.
 
Smurfy said:
where does a CNA fit into the mix? isnt CNA like an 8 week course or something?

It depends upon the state and the area, there is a widdddddddddeeeeeeeeee latitude given to doctors in rural areas..

Most people understand the rules being that in a populated area. I dont know the dates of time, but as I mentioned, CNA's education is like 8-12 weeks.

The CNA is probably the hardest job in medicine and the worst pay. Given the huge turnover, there is often a large shortage and butts still need to be wiped day in day out.

An RN usually directs care, LPNs as a status are being phased out, in favor of, CNA and RN.
This is more to control costs and because of the RN's not wanting to be associated with LPNs.
Which as we can see in this thread, an LPN wants to claim the status of a nurse.
This is the major reason why LPNs are going by the wayside with nursing strikes and such and union contract disputes.
An LPN or CNA will always find work though in a nursing home, where their lower pay fits in..

The economy is now more service oriented given global trade. Manufacturing jobs are down, but everyone will eventually need their butt wiped by a CNA or LPN. If they have it wiped by an RN or MD, its just that much more expensive
 
vegemitesammich said:
Not being a nurse but I am now a physician and done rotations in the US, male nurses are preferred amongst male doctors and often move up very quickly into higher specialities which garner more attractive rates. Many times, if you specialize are six figure income. Many of the female class of nurses are, just that, female class who engage in bickering and infighting and catfighting and just plain bitching> These lead to them losing doctor directed training which leads to more specialized advancement.
Since most doctors are men, most nurses are women. Doctors would rather train a smart laid back guy rather than pick someone from the cathouse den.

And to clarify something spoken in this thread. LPNs are not nurses and should never be considered a nurse. Their pay starts at 11$ per hour and maxes out at 20$ and no one wants to hire them.
They were a stopgap measure allowing uneducated people to do the MOST menial jobs in nursing at a lower rate to save costs.
Typically they had no education and could do limited tasks like clean after a person defecates and take a blood pressure.
The key to using these people was to completely eliminate their responsibility to make decisions b/c they were not proven through education to make decisions; hence the limited licensure they get after a few months of training. What that means is that a person not having able to graduate high school was able to take a few classes to perform very MINIMAL procedures.
As they lack the cognitive skills and decision making processes that could allow to assume further responsibilities to the direct care and the liabilities of letting undeducated people in the 'decision-maker' role.
Hence, this is why the distinction between RN and LPN.
Although, some may say they are nurse with an LPN license, they are in most medical communities regarded as not. Their pay is reflected upon this as well as an LPN median level income is less than 20,000 per year.
An LPN can advance their career but only if they can pass certain mental and proficiency skills test and thereby increase their income with the certification. The limiting factor would be the person's intelligence and motivation to do so.
Working as an LPN for 15,000 year over a long period does not make sense if they cut back in hours and become an RN who can make 50,000 plus depending upon specialty which the rate can go even further

Very accurate description, there really is very little comparison between an RN and an LPN.

Needto, where did you go buddy? Don't you have some smart-ass answer to this as well?
 
vegemitesammich said:
So follow me if you can:


lol, okay all mighty and knowing one.

I believe I commented on the fact that $40,000/year would be good money for a job that requires such little skill. Didn't ask you explain the difference between an LPN and RN, AGAIN. Did I?
 
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