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Made the decision

listen to nelson and xrcist

like i have been telling all the kids i did my first cycle when i was 19

have not grown since. Take some NO, Creatine, Weightgain, strict clean high cal diet, 5x5, and you will grow. Nelson offers great products too if your serious about weightlifting. Steroids arent magic like he said. Thats an adult decision.
Good luck dog
Ghost
 
holy ghost said:
listen to nelson and xrcist

like i have been telling all the kids i did my first cycle when i was 19

have not grown since. Take some NO, Creatine, Weightgain, strict clean high cal diet, 5x5, and you will grow. Nelson offers great products too if your serious about weightlifting. Steroids arent magic like he said. Thats an adult decision.
Good luck dog
Ghost


even if i didnt grow any taller, i am 6 foot 1". its not a concern to me
 
cm23 said:
even if i didnt grow any taller, i am 6 foot 1". its not a concern to me

Height isn't so much of a factor at 19, but the HPTA is.

The way I see it, you aren't interested in being a bodybuilder or an athlete. You just want some instant gratification.
 
that s not a bad cycle i prefer to use sustanon. the d-bol is not a bad idea for a kick start. i would keep the does mild around 30mg daily.
 
cm23 said:
thanks, i have done research on possible side effects, but i appreciate your help man

If you'd really done research you wouldn't be doing this at your age. It's just not worth the risk.
 
cm23, these guys are telling the truth . .

Steroids will give you some problems in one way or another.

I'm on a cycle right now at the age of 17 and i went through depression

for a lil over a week earlier on in the cycle. It sucked ass. I'm not saying you

shouldn't do a cycle because you can make your own descisions and with

that comes consequences, but you have to accept the consequences for

your actions later in life. I even made a thread about it when it happened . .
 
Nelson Montana said:
Height isn't so much of a factor at 19, but the hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - is.

The way I see it, you aren't interested in being a bodybuilder or an athlete. You just want some instant gratification.


I couldn't agree more,is the instant gratification worth risking your entire fucking life's ability to naturally produce testosterone?

dude you're still way too young.4 years of natural training(especially since you've admitted that only 2 of them have been strict and religious in nature) isn't a goddamned thing considering your age.you want what you want,when you want it and how you want it.

gear isn't a magical thing substance that will automatically make you everything you've always wanted to be,what it can make you is a depressed dude that has to be on hormone replacement therapy for the rest of your fucking life due to your fucked up self centered decisions all in the name of instant gratification.think it over before you fuck yourself up for the rest of your life.
 
hyp1 said:
I couldn't agree more,is the instant gratification worth risking your entire fucking life's ability to naturally produce testosterone?

dude you're still way too young.4 years of natural training(especially since you've admitted that only 2 of them have been strict and religious in nature) isn't a goddamned thing considering your age.you want what you want,when you want it and how you want it.

gear isn't a magical thing substance that will automatically make you everything you've always wanted to be,what it can make you is a depressed dude that has to be on hormone replacement therapy for the rest of your fucking life due to your fucked up self centered decisions all in the name of instant gratification.think it over before you fuck yourself up for the rest of your life.

hey man thanks for the post, i appreciate your honesty. i have been thinking hard about this for awhile. i understand why some may thing i am doing this for instant gratification, but that isnt the case. i understand that this is a life commitment and so is my training. Going to the gym isnt just something i do in my spare time, its what i think about 24/7 and have since i started training. the reason i want to do a cycle is not to impress others or something along those lines.. its to help me achieve the goals i have set. I have tried my best to prefect my diet and routine, and i have tried various supplements, however i feel this is the one thing that will take my training to the next level...

thanks
 
cm23 said:
hey man thanks for the post, i appreciate your honesty. i have been thinking hard about this for awhile. i understand why some may thing i am doing this for instant gratification, but that isnt the case. i understand that this is a life commitment and so is my training.

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I'M CALLING BULLSHIT ON THIS ONE. IF THIS IS A LIFE COMMITMENT THEN YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT YOU'LL NEVER ACHEIVE YOUR GOALS IF YOU RELY ON A CRUTH TOO EARLY. GEAR IS BEST UTILIZED AFTER YOUR GENETIC POTENTIAL HAS BEEN TAPPED. IF YOU'RE SAYING IT'S TAPPED AT 19, YOU'LL BE QUITTING IN A YEAR OR TWO , IF NOT SOONER.


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Going to the gym isnt just something i do in my spare time, its what i think about 24/7 and have since i started training. the reason i want to do a cycle is not to impress others or something along those lines.. its to help me achieve the goals i have set.

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WELL IT WON'T. SO NOW WHAT?



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I have tried my best to prefect my diet and routine, and i have tried various supplements, however i feel this is the one thing that will take my training to the next level...


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TRY HARDER.


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thanks


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YOU'RE WELCOME.

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