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st8grad said:
You won't gain 15 pounds of muscle on a single cycle that is.


Correct. Maybe 5-6 pounds will be muscle, 3-4 of which will most likely be lost a month later.

Hell, at 19, if you trained right and used the RIGHT supplements (not that GNC Muscltech garbage) you can put on 10 pounds of muscle by the end of the year.

And yes, your HPTA is still developing, so sexual sides can be permanently damaging.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Correct. Maybe 5-6 pounds will be muscle, 3-4 of which will most likely be lost a month later.

Hell, at 19, if you trained right and used the RIGHT supplements (not that GNC Muscltech garbage) you can put on 10 pounds of muscle by the end of the year.

And yes, your hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - is still developing, so sexual sides can be permanently damaging.


thanks, i have done research on possible side effects, but i appreciate your help man
 
cm23 said:
thanks man that sounds like a great stack, should i follow this with PCT - post cycle therapy - ?


you have done your research?

and you ask this question? i would either a) research harder b) or dont do a cycle
 
cm23 said:
everyone says to get this supplement and that, im tired of buying shit that promises all these results but delivers nothing a good diet can't.

ive made the decision, and i think you guys are misenterpreting the post, however thanks for your help so far...


Before you embark on this first cycle of yours... it's a good idea to check your hdl/ldl, blood cell counts, lymphocyte, hemoglobin etc. etc. just to be on the safe side. and dont forget to stack CoQ10, flaxseed oil, fish oil, liver guard while on cycle. We all know that it's mandatory but others tend to ignore the mandatory. you're still very young to do a cycle, but you've made your decision. GoodLuck!
 
Faizakafez said:
you have done your research?

and you ask this question? i would either a) research harder b) or dont do a cycle



like i said ive done my research on POSSIBLE SIDE EFFECTS i didnt make this thread so i could listen to you bash the idea, i came for advice because no matter how much research i do, it wont compare to what i could gain from you guys who have experience.
 
easternguru said:
Before you embark on this first cycle of yours... it's a good idea to check your hdl/ldl, blood cell counts, lymphocyte, hemoglobin etc. etc. just to be on the safe side. and dont forget to stack CoQ10, flaxseed oil, fish oil, liver guard while on cycle. We all know that it's mandatory but others tend to ignore the mandatory. you're still very young to do a cycle, but you've made your decision. GoodLuck!


i went for bloodwork about two weeks ago my doctor said i am healthy as a horse, thanks for the heads up tho.
 
every steroid has different side effects but yet u ask what steroids to take? So what steroids have u been researching
 
big.nad said:
uve made ur decision so theres no point in trying to talk u out of it.

not too sure of a cycle that benefits the pocket b4 health, but many will suggest a testosterone enanthate cycle only to start with. personally i would/did start with 10 wks of testosterone enanthate at 250mg twice a week (mon and thurs) and 30mg of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - per day for 4 wks.

just as importantly u will need a proper PCT - post cycle therapy - lined up. something like 4 weeks of clomid at 100mg per day week 1 then 50 mg per day for the next 3 wks.

good luck bro

why run clomid at 100mg ED?? how many times do i have to say that this is the main cause of people complaining about clomid sides, too high of a dose. clomid at 50mg ED for 20-30 days is perfect
 
cm23 said:
thanks, i have done research on possible side effects, but i appreciate your help man

you might wanna listen to what nelson has to say... hope you dont plan on growing any taller once you start using aas..
 
roids arent magic.. at your age all you need is a 1000cals a day surplus and constant lifting you can put on 15-20lbs in no time...

when i was 205 i took in 4500 cals per day and in 3 months i added 17lbs to my frame... i averaged about 1.5lbs per week of weight gain all just from eating.. you wont get that with roids!!!
 
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