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jagerbombme

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last time my test was tested i was tested 6 weeks off the juice, didn't do a pct and my test was 70. i've cycled since then and did a pct this time consisting of clomid/nolvadex/aifm. dropped the clomid at 30 days out cause that seems to be when clomid starts making me depressed so i drop it then. and have continued the nolvadex for an additional week. balls are hanging good. going to see a doc next tuesday and i want to make my test as low as possible for the test. so my question is, should i drop the nolvadex as it may be making my test level higher than normal. should i up the aifm to max dosage to cause some level of shutdown. or will i most likely be low anyways still despite a pct at 6 weeks off the juice?

this doc gave my friend some topical test and he says it works great for maintenance. this is what i'm looking for. so basically i'm asking what to do with the current routine to make the test as low as possible for next tuesday.
 
holy ghost said:
only about 45% of the transdermal shit gets abosorbed

Some of the older guys will chime in .

it does not matter what percent is absorbed,,it is dosed to put blood levels in a therapeutic normal range,,a few people on this board with testim or androgel 5g, one packet, have been around 900-1100 ng/dl on these products,,,a very very high normal and/or well above.
 
I was prescribed testim and it did nothing for me. I didn't really feel any different. The only thing I felt was the sticky gel on me all day. I didn't think it was worth it and stopped.
 
Nelson Montana said:
I don't get it. If you're not trying to recover, why'd you do PC T???

i agree-- if you want the low levels, then why the PCT at all?
 
ego boner said:
i agree-- if you want the low levels, then why the PCT - post cycle therapy - at all?


i cannot walk in there with 70 again or this doctor will know whats up. even an endo was looking at me funny. i was at an endo's but he wanted me to pay thousands for bw and all this shit so i quit him. my docs turned into a dickhead and now i found a new doc. if my test is at the high end of normal then i don't want the shit. but i believe it's low. i pctd also so my dick would still half ass work.
 
jagerbombme said:
i cannot walk in there with 70 again or this doctor will know whats up. even an endo was looking at me funny. i was at an endo's but he wanted me to pay thousands for bw and all this shit so i quit him. my docs turned into a dickhead and now i found a new doc. if my test is at the high end of normal then i don't want the shit. but i believe it's low. i pctd also so my dick would still half ass work.


but you said this in your original post...

"going to see a doc next tuesday and i want to make my test as low as possible for the test"

so why the pct?
 
leonidas33 said:
but you said this in your original post...

"going to see a doc next tuesday and i want to make my test as low as possible for the test"

so why the PCT - post cycle therapy - ?



well, i didn't think i'd find a doctor. so naturally i wanted to feel as good as possible. i'm never doing another cycle unless it's for good. so if doc hooks me up. i'll always be on. i don't like coming off cause it's hard mentally coming off. if i stay on then your always on the plain
 
How old are you?


If you always want to be on test, then I would do some reading about the andropause (like menopause, but in men).

This really is the only research that is done into TRT in men.
 
tatyana_zadorozny said:
How old are you?


If you always want to be on test, then I would do some reading about the andropause (like menopause, but in men).

This really is the only research that is done into TRT in men.


i am 31. started juicing alittle before i turned 30. had ed problems since i was 27ish. never touched juice before. as soon as i took first shot of test. within 2 days my dick was working like it should be.
 
Dont you think 31 is too young to be on TRT?
If you discovered you had E.D. at 27 you should have went to a doctor then, before using any juice.
 
mickeyb69 said:
Dont you think 31 is too young to be on TRT?
If you discovered you had E.D. at 27 you should have went to a doctor then, before using any juice.


bro. i didn't realize i had ed until i did my first cycle and realized that i had a problem, i thought it was cause i lost interest in my woman or something. actually i tried not to think about it because nobody would want to admit there is a problem with their package. i had hormonal issues as a juvenile too cause i had gyno and had to have surgery. despite the surgery they did nothing to lower the estrogen which continued to make me fat as hell all through high school. it wouldn't suprise me to learn i have had low test in the first place. anyways it's all a long story and i appreciate your concern but nobody has answered the questions i have asked which is if my test is possibly on the high end of norm or above from nolva and clom and aifm, is dropping them off 6 days before the b/w going to leave me at norm or lower than normal levels?

thanks to the one who did say drop everything 2 weeks before. he attempted to answer my question, maybe i'm stoned and ain't asking it correctly. i did pct though so i could see baseline and then make a descision on what to do.

another question if anyone can answer, shoudl i be close to my baseline after a pct like that? or will i be way above my personal normal level?
 
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