Low test level - blood test advice needed please!!

[John McLane]

I took some gear last Jan (07). Against my better judgement I only took 3 weeks off and did some Test Cyp, Equipoise and test prop for 8 weeks. Finished end of April. Was a nightmare coming off. The crash hit me hard, what shocked me was the lack of energy. Never felt this bad before. Kept up with the training, and added some cardio for the first time in years. It was hell. Didn't recover till September, I could literally feel my natural test level rise...my workouts were better, energy levels through the roof, sex drive back with a vengance. Felt even better than on gear!! Then in November my sex drive dropped a bit, and stupidly I went on gear for 1 month (short cycle of Test prop & tren)....thing is my sex drive did not go up for the first time on gear ever!! (I was taking armidex for the 1st time too). Anyway off cycle late Dec/Jan 08 I took zinc, tribulus and horny goat weed and felt better. Since then its been up and down, took clomid last week, def felt a difference (positive) but again my libido has dropped a bit for some odd reason. Back taking zinc picolanate again.
Why is my libido going up and then down again? What is the reason for bloodtests? Surely this will tell me what I already know ie my test level is low....what will my doctor do but prescribe me Clomid/HCG, drugs we already know about...what else can they do to get my test level back up? I cant see what else they can do, they dont have any drugs to increase test level that we dont know about do they?
Just would like to get my libido more consistent. I am 37, taking small amounts of gear for 4 years, on for 10 weeks max at a time, always took 8 weeks breaks at least (apart from this example), always used HCG and/or clomid or tribulus/zinc. I do work long hours so not sure if this will affect hormones etc?? When I can a blood test done and it confirms that my levels are low, will I be able to suggest to him Restandol as I have heard from a friend that it works, I dont want to use a patch....
Any help on this fellas would be REALLY appreciated.

 

[littleb]

It sounds to me that you may be a little too worried about your libido, meaning you always want to feel that animal sex drive all the time,,, are you having erection problems? or just not always horny enough to bang road kill on a hot summers day..
Nobody can tell you for sure, just make sure you are always informed and do a proper pct EVERYTIME train hard on and off, and eat right..
Go get a full blood panel done including free test levels and see what that shows, but even though it may be a little lower {age} I would bet a lot of what your feeling may be in your own head,,, but thats just a guess... let us know what test results show brother and good luck..

 

[John McLane]

It sounds to me that you may be a little too worried about your libido, meaning you always want to feel that animal sex drive all the time,,, are you having erection problems? or just not always horny enough to bang road kill on a hot summers day..
Nobody can tell you for sure, just make sure you are always informed and do a proper pct EVERYTIME train hard on and off, and eat right..
Go get a full blood panel done including free test levels and see what that shows, but even though it may be a little lower {age} I would bet a lot of what your feeling may be in your own head,,, but thats just a guess... let us know what test results show brother and good luck..

Im going to the doctors next week, I will let you know how I get on.

 

[John McLane]

It sounds to me that you may be a little too worried about your libido, meaning you always want to feel that animal sex drive all the time,,, are you having erection problems? or just not always horny enough to bang road kill on a hot summers day..
Nobody can tell you for sure, just make sure you are always informed and do a proper pct EVERYTIME train hard on and off, and eat right..
Go get a full blood panel done including free test levels and see what that shows, but even though it may be a little lower {age} I would bet a lot of what your feeling may be in your own head,,, but thats just a guess... let us know what test results show brother and good luck..

Some of what you are saying is possibly true, its just that I feel so lethargic, tired, have no motivation...also have trouble concentrating and have bad memory loss too.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Tons of possibilities, all of which will be speculation. Clomid can have weird effects that throw libido off. YOur PCT is dated. zinc and trib do next to nothing. Check out UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE and Dermacrine. That alone will make a tremendous difference.

!0 weeks cycles with 8 weeks off isn't as conservative as you might think. You may need to take a break for a while.

 

[Tatyana]

I took some gear last Jan (07). Against my better judgement I only took 3 weeks off and did some Test Cyp, Equipoise and test prop for 8 weeks. Finished end of April. Was a nightmare coming off. The crash hit me hard, what shocked me was the lack of energy. Never felt this bad before. Kept up with the training, and added some cardio for the first time in years. It was hell. Didn't recover till September, I could literally feel my natural test level rise...my workouts were better, energy levels through the roof, sex drive back with a vengance. Felt even better than on gear!!

How do you know that this was test levels without a test? It could have been thyroid function, anaemia, messed up cortisol levels, stress, depression.




Then in November my sex drive dropped a bit, and stupidly I went on gear for 1 month (short cycle of Test prop & tren)....thing is my sex drive did not go up for the first time on gear ever!! (I was taking armidex for the 1st time too). Anyway off cycle late Dec/Jan 08 I took zinc, tribulus and horny goat weed and felt better. Since then its been up and down, took clomid last week, def felt a difference (positive) but again my libido has dropped a bit for some odd reason. Back taking zinc picolanate again.


Why is my libido going up and then down again? What is the reason for bloodtests? Surely this will tell me what I already know ie my test level is low....what will my doctor do but prescribe me Clomid/HCG, drugs we already know about...what else can they do to get my test level back up? I cant see what else they can do, they dont have any drugs to increase test level that we dont know about do they?


You have to find out exactly what is going on, there are some other pathologies that could be responsible for your symptoms of low libido and fatigue.

Especially as the fatigue is so pronounced. You could have haemochromatosis for example.


Just would like to get my libido more consistent. I am 37, taking small amounts of gear for 4 years, on for 10 weeks max at a time, always took 8 weeks breaks at least (apart from this example), always used HCG and/or clomid or tribulus/zinc.


I do work long hours so not sure if this will affect hormones etc?? When I can a blood test done and it confirms that my levels are low, will I be able to suggest to him Restandol as I have heard from a friend that it works, I dont want to use a patch....

Any help on this fellas would be REALLY appreciated.

Did you take extra vitamins while on?

 

[John McLane]

Im willing to give Unleashed/Post cycle a try but surely if my test level is low I need something to REPLACE my test, not BOOST it.....ie Restandol....thing is I have read posts on here from people who say Unleashed/Post cycle do not work, though everybody is different. Im having blood tests done on Friday.

Tons of possibilities, all of which will be speculation. Clomid can have weird effects that throw libido off. YOur PCT is dated. zinc and trib do next to nothing. Check out UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE and Dermacrine. That alone will make a tremendous difference.

!0 weeks cycles with 8 weeks off isn't as conservative as you might think. You may need to take a break for a while.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Im willing to give Unleashed/Post cycle a try but surely if my test level is low I need something to REPLACE my test, not BOOST it.....ie Restandol....thing is I have read posts on here from people who say Unleashed/Post cycle do not work, though everybody is different. Im having blood tests done on Friday.

REALLY? Show me where, because the feedback I've seen has been unanimously positive.

If you're looking to replace T then you're talking about HRT, which is for life, in which case you should still try to boost natural T as high as possible.

 

[John McLane]

REALLY? Show me where, because the feedback I've seen has been unanimously positive.

If you're looking to replace T then you're talking about HRT, which is for life, in which case you should still try to boost natural T as high as possible.

I just used the search engine. It wont put me off trying them though. Should I double the dosage of both Nelson to get the quickest, most effective response? Just been checking out Dermacrine and Sustain Alpha, never heard of them before, we dont get them here in the UK.... should I use them at the same time as Unleashed/PC??

 

[Harleymarleybone]

I took some gear last Jan (07). Against my better judgement I only took 3 weeks off and did some Test Cyp, Equipoise and test prop for 8 weeks. Finished end of April. Was a nightmare coming off. The crash hit me hard, what shocked me was the lack of energy. Never felt this bad before. Kept up with the training, and added some cardio for the first time in years. It was hell. Didn't recover till September, I could literally feel my natural test level rise...my workouts were better, energy levels through the roof, sex drive back with a vengance. Felt even better than on gear!! Then in November my sex drive dropped a bit, and stupidly I went on gear for 1 month (short cycle of Test prop & tren)....thing is my sex drive did not go up for the first time on gear ever!! (I was taking armidex for the 1st time too). Anyway off cycle late Dec/Jan 08 I took zinc, tribulus and horny goat weed and felt better. Since then its been up and down, took clomid last week, def felt a difference (positive) but again my libido has dropped a bit for some odd reason. Back taking zinc picolanate again.
Why is my libido going up and then down again? What is the reason for bloodtests? Surely this will tell me what I already know ie my test level is low....what will my doctor do but prescribe me Clomid/HCG, drugs we already know about...what else can they do to get my test level back up? I cant see what else they can do, they dont have any drugs to increase test level that we dont know about do they?
Just would like to get my libido more consistent. I am 37, taking small amounts of gear for 4 years, on for 10 weeks max at a time, always took 8 weeks breaks at least (apart from this example), always used HCG and/or clomid or tribulus/zinc. I do work long hours so not sure if this will affect hormones etc?? When I can a blood test done and it confirms that my levels are low, will I be able to suggest to him Restandol as I have heard from a friend that it works, I dont want to use a patch....
Any help on this fellas would be REALLY appreciated.

Your Libido fluctuations could be the result of lots of things besides low test levels, including psychological ones. The first step is to get the test levels checked and go from there.

 

[John McLane]

Did you take extra vitamins while on?

Nope, just my normal Vit C 1g a day and Quest multi vit.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I just used the search engine. It wont put me off trying them though. Should I double the dosage of both Nelson to get the quickest, most effective response? Just been checking out Dermacrine and Sustain Alpha, never heard of them before, we dont get them here in the UK.... should I use them at the same time as Unleashed/PC??

They can be used together and should send your libido though the roof unless you're so low you need clinical help. A double dose of UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE will help with any ED problems.

Try it for a month and see. And then get blood work done and check your e and prolactin levels as well.