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Other than tax rates on top earners, which Barry once supported but now decries, how was the Bush admin different than the Barry admin?

Both admins are progressive..

:xeye:

Repeal of dont ask dont tell
Stopped ban on stemcell research
Getting military out of wars instead of in
Payroll tax cuts for the middle class, not babying the rich
Signed new fuel ecomomy laws
Lilly ledbetter
Travel expense for fallen soldiers families
Added billions to the VA
Credit card bill of rights
Stopped pre existing condition clause for children

Im not going to continue...... You should get the point
 
You claim that you were progressive and dont know the Fucking difference between Conservative / Moderate and Progressive
Other than tax rates on top earners, which Barry once supported but now decries, how was the Bush admin different than the Barry admin?

Both admins are progressive..

Fucking sad......
 
:xeye:

Repeal of dont ask dont tell
Stopped ban on stemcell research
Getting military out of wars instead of in
Payroll tax cuts for the middle class, not babying the rich
Signed new fuel ecomomy laws
Lilly ledbetter
Travel expense for fallen soldiers families
Added billions to the VA
Credit card bill of rights
Stopped pre existing condition clause for children

Im not going to continue...... You should get the point

Gays were already serving under Bush, I served with several and we all knew who they were, and don't ask don't tell was a Clinton initiative.

Barry double downed on Afghanistan and simply followed the Bush plan for the withdrawal from Iraq. Hell, he killed more women and children in two years than shrub did in eight with drone strikes.

Payroll tax cuts that destroy the "insurance plans" of social security and medicare. Shrub did the same thing with medicare part B where the average retired person spent 3% of their retirement handout on their prescription drugs. Not funding entitlements is hardly a feather in your cap.


Fuel economy laws...lool..Bush...a huge environmentalist supported the ...Clean Skies Act of 2003, a cap and trade system. He also heavily supported alternative fuel vehicles and bailed out the dysfunctional and mismanaged auto companies.

Maybe Lilly Ledbetter sucked as a supervisor, by all accounts she was payed a fair salary as a low level employee. Why should the government interfere with anyone's right to contract? If she felt she was being unfairly treated then she should have taken a job with a competitor and pwned them.

Credit card "bill of rights" just increased credit card fees on the poor..economics 101.

Barry care just forces me to pay for other people. I have no problem with helping to pay for the healthcare of people that are fucked up through no fault of their own. However, the vast majority of health conditions I will pay a higher premium for are self inflicted. Obesity, smoking, and diabetes....These are personal responsibility issues that someone should have to pay for themselves via a higher premium
 
Gays were already serving under Bush, I served with several and we all knew who they were, and don't ask don't tell was a Clinton initiative. Gays have been serving since the revolutionary war, Beyond that point, he said he would repeal it,, he did.
Barry double downed on Afghanistan and simply followed the Bush plan for the withdrawal from Iraq. Hell, he killed more women and children in two years than shrub did in eight with drone strikes. WRONG! he didn't double down on Afghanistan, he did add some troops, but less than the generals wanted. Barry go the troops out of Iraq BEFORE Bush's planned date. reason: Iraqi prime minister would not obmit American troops from certain laws it was making in its constitution.
Where are you facts on the drone strike #'s killing more W/C than Bush's wars of 10 years in two countries? Thats a bullshit FAUX news claim. Us being there in hand to hand combat,, hundreds of jet squadrons, tanks, and ship to shore missles has caused more deaths than a few dozen remote controlled airplanes.

Payroll tax cuts that destroy the "insurance plans" of social security and medicare. Shrub did the same thing with medicare part B where the average retired person spent 3% of their retirement handout on their prescription drugs. Not funding entitlements is hardly a feather in your cap.
The payroll tax cuts helped keep the ecomomy from going into a depression. And Bush's part B change isn't what destroyed Medicare. it was the C/D plans that did that.


Fuel economy laws...lool..Bush...a huge environmentalist supported the ...Clean Skies Act of 2003, a cap and trade system. He also heavily supported alternative fuel vehicles and bailed out the dysfunctional and mismanaged auto companies.

Maybe Lilly Ledbetter sucked as a supervisor, by all accounts she was payed a fair salary as a low level employee. Why should the government interfere with anyone's right to contract? If she felt she was being unfairly treated then she should have taken a job with a competitor and pwned them. Not a mature response. But does make you sound pro Union. "
Maybe she was a excellent supervisor. How the fuck would you know? They used to say shit like that during Womans Sufferage 1900's , Civil Right and about the Irish in the 1800's.


Credit card "bill of rights" just increased credit card fees on the poor..economics 101.
You need to read the refom.

Barry care just forces me to pay for other people. I have no problem with helping to pay for the healthcare of people that are fucked up through no fault of their own. However, the vast majority of health conditions I will pay a higher premium for are self inflicted. Obesity, smoking, and diabetes....These are personal responsibility issues that someone should have to pay for themselves via a higher premium
Diabetes isn't self inflicted, obesity can be side effect from it.

SO in all, just nothing the POTUS has done is acceptable to you.
except: Adding billions to the VA, ending ban on stemcell research, travel expenses for fallen military families.
 
Diabetes isn't self inflicted, obesity can be side effect from it.

SO in all, just nothing the POTUS has done is acceptable to you.
except: Adding billions to the VA, ending ban on stemcell research, travel expenses for fallen military families.

Type II diabetes is self inflicted unless you're elderly and controllable via physical activity and diet, regardless.My niece was born with Type I; Diabetes runs in my family so I know a couple things about it and it's a reason I still watch my diet and exercise.

Adding billions to the VA is the price of war; I made a number of posts about it before the Iraq war that spending on veterans issues would have to escalate dramatically. I also posted a paper by the Army Medical Corps later on the casualty rate, half those of Desert Storm and Vietnam, thanks to widespread use of body armor and trauma plates. However, it resulted in veterans with serious disabilities that need long term care. The new GI Bill was passed under Bush. I support stem cell research and the feds funding theoretical science. My fallen brothers and sisters should be buried properly in a local cemetery or Arlington, based on their preference. I don't want to be buried at Arlington when I die, I want to be buried locally so my family can visit. My father was a Navy Corpsman that was served on Tarawa, Iwo Jima, and the Philippines campaigns, he was selected to go in with the marines and was awarded two Purple Hearts. He's buried in a local cemetery about 5 kilometers from where I grew up.
 
pick one I can focus on otherwise I'm not going back and forth with all your marmalade
 
I say again what is your main bitch?
I'll start there
don't write paragraphs either asswipe
other people may read
and all that blah blah
well?
 
Type II diabetes is self inflicted unless you're elderly and controllable via physical activity and diet, regardless.My niece was born with Type I; Diabetes runs in my family so I know a couple things about it and it's a reason I still watch my diet and exercise.

Adding billions to the VA is the price of war; I made a number of posts about it before the Iraq war that spending on veterans issues would have to escalate dramatically. I also posted a paper by the Army Medical Corps later on the casualty rate, half those of Desert Storm and Vietnam, thanks to widespread use of body armor and trauma plates. However, it resulted in veterans with serious disabilities that need long term care. The new GI Bill was passed under Bush. I support stem cell research and the feds funding theoretical science. My fallen brothers and sisters should be buried properly in a local cemetery or Arlington, based on their preference. I don't want to be buried at Arlington when I die, I want to be buried locally so my family can visit. My father was a Navy Corpsman that was served on Tarawa, Iwo Jima, and the Philippines campaigns, he was selected to go in with the marines and was awarded two Purple Hearts. He's buried in a local cemetery about 5 kilometers from where I grew up.

Not everyone with type 2 diabetes is overweight, obesity and lack of physical activity are two of the most common causes of this form of diabetes. It is responsible for nearly 95% of diabetes cases in the United States, according to the CDC. Also a good chunk of women can get Type I or II diabetes from just being pregnant and it NOT go away after birth.

The Travel expense bill was travel to to DOVER not just so the fallen can be burried at Arlington. Which tells me you had no idea on the good bills signed in by Obama.
So you support the Obama ban on stemcell research.
And His treatment of the Military.

Got it.
 
Adding billions to the VA is the price of war; I made a number of posts about it before the Iraq war that spending on veterans issues would have to escalate dramatically. I also posted a paper by the Army Medical Corps later on the casualty rate, half those of Desert Storm and Vietnam, thanks to widespread use of body armor and trauma plates. However, it resulted in veterans with serious disabilities that need long term care. The new GI Bill was passed under Bush. I support stem cell research and the feds funding theoretical science. My fallen brothers and sisters should be buried properly in a local cemetery or Arlington, based on their preference. I don't want to be buried at Arlington when I die, I want to be buried locally so my family can visit. My father was a Navy Corpsman that was served on Tarawa, Iwo Jima, and the Philippines campaigns, he was selected to go in with the marines and was awarded two Purple Hearts. He's buried in a local cemetery about 5 kilometers from where I grew up.

those who gave some, should receive proper care/compensation for their sacrfice...and those who gave all?? their spouse and/or children should be rewarded with proper care/compensation that is commensurate with that ultimate sacrifice...it's simple and proper. there are tons of shitbags out there who have given nothing, yet they get to live for free...those who sacrificed in the service of their country should receive a whole lot more.
 
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Diabetes isn't self inflicted, obesity can be side effect from it.

The Harvard School of Public Health would disagree with you on that one.

But carry on. It's kinda entertaining to me to watch you be so confidently wrong.
 
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The Harvard School of Public Health would disagree with you on that one.

But carry on. It's kinda entertaining to me to watch you be so confidently wrong.

Type 2 diabetes cure, extreme diet - Los Angeles Times

"Roy Taylor, head of the magnetic resonance imaging unit at Newcastle University in Britain, and his colleagues studied 11 patients who had developed diabetes later in life and who had had it for several years. The patients averaged 220 pounds at the beginning of the study. Each was put on a 600-calorie-per-day diet that included a special diet drink and non-starchy vegetables, such as broccoli, asparagus and cabbage. The diet was followed for eight weeks.

Taylor reported Saturday at a San Diego meeting of the American Diabetes Assn. and in the journal Diabetologia that, after one week on the diet, each of the patients' fasting blood sugar, taken before breakfast, had returned to normal. At the end of the eight weeks, the patients had lost an average of 33 pounds and had no signs of diabetes. Three months after returning to a normal diet, seven of them remained free of the disease. Average weight gain in that three months was 6.5 pounds.

Taylor believes he has an explanation for the results. At the beginning of the study, MRI scans of the patients' pancreases showed that they held an elevated level of fat, 8% compared with the normal 6%. That extra fat impairs the organ's ability to produce insulin, he speculated. At the end of the study, fat levels in the pancreas were down to normal in each patient.

"We believe that this shows that Type 2 diabetes is all about energy balance in the body," Taylor said in a statement. "If you are eating more [calories] than you burn, then the excess is stored in the liver and pancreas as fat, which can lead to Type 2 diabetes in some people. What we need to examine further is why some people are more susceptible to developing diabetes than others."

He added that, "We used the 600-calorie diet to test a hypothesis. What I can tell you definitively is that if people lose substantial weight by normal means, they will lose their diabetes."
 
Not everyone with type 2 diabetes is overweight, obesity and lack of physical activity are two of the most common causes of this form of diabetes. It is responsible for nearly 95% of diabetes cases in the United States, according to the CDC. Also a good chunk of women can get Type I or II diabetes from just being pregnant and it NOT go away after birth.

The Travel expense bill was travel to to DOVER not just so the fallen can be burried at Arlington. Which tells me you had no idea on the good bills signed in by Obama.
So you support the Obama ban on stemcell research.
And His treatment of the Military.

Got it.

I don't concern myself with inconsequential issues, I focus on monetary and budgetary policy. The 800 pound gorilla in the room are those liabilities not flying a few hundred people to an airbase every so often.


I'll catch flak on this statement but it needs to be said, I voluntarily entered into a contract with the Federal Government for a defined term of service and benefits. I fulfilled the contract and likewise the Federal Government fulfilled their terms. I'm not a hero because I volunteered, I was a mercenary, and please don't thank me for my service, it was a job. I got that from the guy at the bmv the last time I renewed my license. I was unlucky to contract right before Desert Storm but that's how it works and I lost six months of education because of the contract I signed. If you look at death rates for professions then you should thank the pizza guy for his service over soldiers, airmen, and marines....they have a much higher death rate. The last time U.S. sovereignty was threatened by invasion from a foreign power was The War of 1812 and the United States started that war, We don't "protect our freedoms" we pay taxes to support a military industrial complex like Eisenhower warned about.

 
The last time U.S. sovereignty was threatened by invasion from a foreign power was The War of 1812 and the United States started that war, We don't "protect our freedoms" we pay taxes to support a military industrial complex like Eisenhower warned about.

Nonsense! Ho Chi Minh was gonna march all the way from Hanoi to DC if we hadn't stopped him! Saddam was hell bent on world domination! We are under constant threat from those who hate our freedom!

:rolleyes:
 
Brainwashed... Many ppl have been conditioned to believe that terrorist are hiding behind every door. I'm not afraid of terrorist but of my own government..
 
no i think when you call it nigger town that makes you a doosh and a bigot

You mean like when Stiletto had to bitch-slap you for using the same word repeatedly in a reply to one of my posts?

Oh my how we forget...
 
Oh yea, People working 2 jobs, looking for Jobs, worrying about healthcare insurance, or trying to get healthcare insurance with a "pre-existing condition", Worrying about forclosures, general bills, or worrying about unemployment Insurance running out are ready for a special diet by Brittish researchers.

LOLOLOLOL, Fucking Dense.... and Detatched from Reality....
 
Oh yea, People working 2 jobs, looking for Jobs, worrying about healthcare insurance, or trying to get healthcare insurance with a "pre-existing condition", Worrying about forclosures, general bills, or worrying about unemployment Insurance running out are ready for a special diet by Brittish researchers.

LOLOLOLOL, Fucking Dense.... and Detatched from Reality....


actually brown there's something to that link. I've been reading for years people talking about what a couple month juice fast, which is basically what that diet is.....does for the body. I kno what a 2-3 day outright fast does for me. There was a group of people with teh Herp who lost all traces of it through some kind of orange peel diet, i'd rather just fast personally that sounds disgusting.....but still, those people still test negative for the herp. The reason is the human body when in a fasted state starts to murder anything and everything that shouldn't be there....this includes cancer cells. The problem is this kind of approach to illness completely ices out the medical industry which is why we're never going to get a serious medical study on this. If people didn't each so much shit to begin with they wouldn't have to resort to such drastic diets when something went wrong.....the worse you eat, the more you're going to have to sacrifice on teh other end. This is why I've almost completely givin up meat and try to eat as clean as possible so i don't have to eat baked orange peels for months while starviing myself.
 
and when you fast you release massive amounths of growth hormone which is known to regulate insulin so it's very conceivable fasting has a huge impact on somehting like diabetes.
 
Gays were already serving under Bush, I served with several and we all knew who they were, and don't ask don't tell was a Clinton initiative.

Barry double downed on Afghanistan and simply followed the Bush plan for the withdrawal from Iraq. Hell, he killed more women and children in two years than shrub did in eight with drone strikes.

Payroll tax cuts that destroy the "insurance plans" of social security and medicare. Shrub did the same thing with medicare part B where the average retired person spent 3% of their retirement handout on their prescription drugs. Not funding entitlements is hardly a feather in your cap.


Fuel economy laws...lool..Bush...a huge environmentalist supported the ...Clean Skies Act of 2003, a cap and trade system. He also heavily supported alternative fuel vehicles and bailed out the dysfunctional and mismanaged auto companies.

Maybe Lilly Ledbetter sucked as a supervisor, by all accounts she was payed a fair salary as a low level employee. Why should the government interfere with anyone's right to contract? If she felt she was being unfairly treated then she should have taken a job with a competitor and pwned them.

Credit card "bill of rights" just increased credit card fees on the poor..economics 101.

Barry care just forces me to pay for other people. I have no problem with helping to pay for the healthcare of people that are fucked up through no fault of their own. However, the vast majority of health conditions I will pay a higher premium for are self inflicted. Obesity, smoking, and diabetes....These are personal responsibility issues that someone should have to pay for themselves via a higher premium

what didn't you cover
I'll cover the other line items
brownbrown where did you go to school?
city college?
 
Nonsense! Ho Chi Minh was gonna march all the way from Hanoi to DC if we hadn't stopped him! Saddam was hell bent on world domination! We are under constant threat from those who hate our freedom!

:rolleyes:

could he swim that well?
ho chi was in china not mexico city
 
and when you fast you release massive amounths of growth hormone which is known to regulate insulin so it's very conceivable fasting has a huge impact on somehting like diabetes.

Not saying the resaerch isnt valid.
But reality for the underprivileged, Fucked middleclass and poverty level folks

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Not saying the resaerch isnt valid.
But reality for the underprivileged, Fucked middleclass and poverty level folks

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I agree...we've all been brainwashed to an extent to abide by the modern food chain. People who have eaten this crap that gave them diabetes are quite literally hooked on it as the dirty little secret that got let out by the former head of the CDC is that food companies manipulate the levels of salt/fat/sugar that in combination mimic the exact same pathways to the brain that heroin takes. So people literally feel like they're dying after fasting for a couple hours because they're not getting their fix. To tell these people you gotta go on that kind of caloric restriction when they're entire body is screaming at them otherwise, it's a tall order indeed.
 
can you not coalesce a better retort?
my God I even leave little tidbits of errors for you to grasp upon
redhansel


are you using the term coalesce to try to make yourself sound more intelligent than you really are or do you just not really know what it means and that it doesn't really fit into what you're trying to say...???

what i'm saying is your application of the english language needs work
 
actually brown there's something to that link. I've been reading for years people talking about what a couple month juice fast, which is basically what that diet is.....does for the body. I kno what a 2-3 day outright fast does for me. There was a group of people with teh Herp who lost all traces of it through some kind of orange peel diet, i'd rather just fast personally that sounds disgusting.....but still, those people still test negative for the herp. The reason is the human body when in a fasted state starts to murder anything and everything that shouldn't be there....this includes cancer cells. The problem is this kind of approach to illness completely ices out the medical industry which is why we're never going to get a serious medical study on this. If people didn't each so much shit to begin with they wouldn't have to resort to such drastic diets when something went wrong.....the worse you eat, the more you're going to have to sacrifice on teh other end. This is why I've almost completely givin up meat and try to eat as clean as possible so i don't have to eat baked orange peels for months while starviing myself.

^^^

I enjoy reading medical insights from a guy who has wrecked his own back, hip and heart through his own self-directed medical and exercise regimens.

We should get O.J. Simpson to post threads here on how to make a marriage last as well.
 
^^^

I enjoy reading medical insights from a guy who has wrecked his own back, hip and heart through his own self-directed medical and exercise regimens.

We should get O.J. Simpson to post threads here on how to make a marriage last as well.


omg wrecked my heart, lmao. If you only had an idea of how much healthier i am than you. Omg....how many medications are you on? Pssst, i'm on ZERO turd cutter. You're a decade away from constant medication just to sustain a reasonable quality of life. I got a hip pointer from judo tossing a sparring partner with somewhat bad form. That's not "wrecking" my hip you old fart. Go take your sarms and stfu you hilarious little troll of a man. Come talk to me when you don't require a horse tranquilizer to go the fuck to sleep. Fuck sake what kind of a moron? :lmao:
 
and next time you're feeling flat in the gym and think "gosh i need to go on sarms again"....know it's because your balls ain't makin it. You're done. Your virility will require synthetic augmentation for life. But you already knew that, have known that for awhile.....:coffee:
 
omg wrecked my heart, lmao. If you only had an idea of how much healthier i am than you. Omg....how many medications are you on? Pssst, i'm on ZERO turd cutter. You're a decade away from constant medication just to sustain a reasonable quality of life. I got a hip pointer from judo tossing a sparring partner with somewhat bad form. That's not "wrecking" my hip you old fart. Go take your sarms and stfu you hilarious little troll of a man. Come talk to me when you don't require a horse tranquilizer to go the fuck to sleep. Fuck sake what kind of a moron? :lmao:

Awwww... Have you already forgot about your little run-in with clenbuterol?
 
Awwww... Have you already forgot about your little run-in with clenbuterol?


yeah that was gettin on 4 years ago....and yeah that was what precipitated my change. I absolutely have not forgotten about it...it's why i'm the way i am now. I have "zero" synthetic shit in my system taken intentionally. No supplements no nothing. No pills of any form. I'm in way better shape now than i was 4 years ago and i'm almost just as strong.
 
yeah that was gettin on 4 years ago....and yeah that was what precipitated my change. I absolutely have not forgotten about it...it's why i'm the way i am now. I have "zero" synthetic shit in my system taken intentionally. No supplements no nothing. No pills of any form. I'm in way better shape now than i was 4 years ago and i'm almost just as strong.

Six plate vibrams-powered squats strong?
 
Yes indeed and what highly acclaimed mortuary science institute did you graduate from summa cum laude..?

I have a batchelors of science degree in economics from a private college
a "blue book" school not multiple choice school
you had to write out your answers
about 12-15 students in the higher level classes
the professor knew you
expensive education and a conservative college
I learned of the Laffer Curve in 1985
 
are you using the term coalesce to try to make yourself sound more intelligent than you really are or do you just not really know what it means and that it doesn't really fit into what you're trying to say...???

what i'm saying is your application of the english language needs work

poor run on sentence
I do notice when people do that though
bunching up big words to sound smart
mostly MDs
and the bodybuilding community is about 20 years ahead of them
I sit there and listen to their smarts
 
I also went to the New Jersey School of Bartending
you want a fuckin' drink?
 
omg wrecked my heart, lmao. If you only had an idea of how much healthier i am than you. Omg....how many medications are you on? Pssst, i'm on ZERO turd cutter. You're a decade away from constant medication just to sustain a reasonable quality of life. I got a hip pointer from judo tossing a sparring partner with somewhat bad form. That's not "wrecking" my hip you old fart. Go take your sarms and stfu you hilarious little troll of a man. Come talk to me when you don't require a horse tranquilizer to go the fuck to sleep. Fuck sake what kind of a moron? :lmao:

nancy
"OMG"
fuc
 
yeah that was gettin on 4 years ago....and yeah that was what precipitated my change. I absolutely have not forgotten about it...it's why i'm the way i am now. I have "zero" synthetic shit in my system taken intentionally. No supplements no nothing. No pills of any form. I'm in way better shape now than i was 4 years ago and i'm almost just as strong.

go fuck yourself then dorian grey
 
I have a batchelors of science degree in economics from a private college
a "blue book" school not multiple choice school
you had to write out your answers
about 12-15 students in the higher level classes
the professor knew you
expensive education and a conservative college
I learned of the Laffer Curve in 1985

Where are we on the curve right now?
 
Where are we on the curve right now?

how do I keep this kitten from climbing my Klipsch towers?
I sort of don't care because I pretty much need to but new speaker covers
I yell at her when I catch her
 
But how much all natural pot smoke rob?


sadly i gave in a few months back and bought about 3.5g of evil hydro....was great for about a week, once weed gets stale it starts to have adverse effects on me. Best scenario is to be able to grow it yourself and basically smoke what you just clipped. Ahhh, this is what would be best in life. :supercool
 
sadly i gave in a few months back and bought about 3.5g of evil hydro....was great for about a week, once weed gets stale it starts to have adverse effects on me. Best scenario is to be able to grow it yourself and basically smoke what you just clipped. Ahhh, this is what would be best in life. :supercool

I get really good shit that lasts. but then again ive never smoked fresh clipped shit so ignorance is bliss
 
Where are we on the curve right now?

the nation as a whole I'd say about right
communities such as california, NYC and Chicago the wealthy are fleeing
so tax revenues are declining in those areas
and that is your Laffer curve
 
Free markets has been tried a few times... They all resulted in depressions or recessions.

You said, we have new and unique issues. Why would we try old tricks again?

like socialism/communism? How many times has that been successful?
 
Capitalism isnt perfect but its the best we got. Just ask Cuba, Greece, Soviet Union, North Korea, etc
 
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I don't understand why you are such a hardcore Dem, like you're getting anything out of it. Dems fuck ppl in the ass just like repubs.

yup. They should all be shot after one term.
 
Oh yea, People working 2 jobs, looking for Jobs, worrying about healthcare insurance, or trying to get healthcare insurance with a "pre-existing condition", Worrying about forclosures, general bills, or worrying about unemployment Insurance running out are ready for a special diet by Brittish researchers.

LOLOLOLOL, Fucking Dense.... and Detatched from Reality....

simple. eat less food.
 
yup. They should all be shot after one term.

I bet if these pussies were held accountable for their actions they wouldn't be corrupt. Like you do one shady thing you get hung. Have a little election to get the seat filled and you're good to go
 
I bet if these pussies were held accountable for their actions they wouldn't be corrupt. Like you do one shady thing you get hung. Have a little election to get the seat filled and you're good to go

Thats how dictators run their country, Great Idea... Lets run America like a totalitarian regime.


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Exactly as many times as A "Freemarket" devoid of regulation.



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^^^^THis what you bumpkins don't get is that capitalism BY DEFINITION is the private ownership of everything and anything. It is completely devoid of any sort of governing "collectivist" convening authority. The market "SOLVES EVERYTHING" as per capitalist theory. We never ever ever in our nations history were true capitalists. We've always been part socialists. I would also argue that by definition the old soviet union was also not true socialists like what Marx envisioned because they had a ruling elite. Power "was not" in the hands of the average laborer which is what Marx envisioned. FYI for you bumpkins. :coffee:
 
Greece is a prime example of what happens when the bankers set all the rules and Taxes are skirted.



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so over paid government officals doing little to no work, sweet gov backed pensions with all the trimmings, and a bloated gov work force having nothing to do with greece's situation?
you are only telling half of the story bro, i just told the other half
 
^^^^THis what you bumpkins don't get is that capitalism BY DEFINITION is the private ownership of everything and anything. It is completely devoid of any sort of governing "collectivist" convening authority. The market "SOLVES EVERYTHING" as per capitalist theory. We never ever ever in our nations history were true capitalists. We've always been part socialists. I would also argue that by definition the old soviet union was also not true socialists like what Marx envisioned because they had a ruling elite. Power "was not" in the hands of the average laborer which is what Marx envisioned. FYI for you bumpkins. :coffee:

Its sad that they fall for it hook line and sinker everytime.

"Freemarket" "Freetrade" "Deregulation" "EPA evil" "Taxes bad" "Small Government" "Communtist/Socialist/Marxist"

Its like Dr. Seuss book for stupid adults.

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so over paid government officals doing little to no work, sweet gov backed pensions with all the trimmings, and a bloated gov work force having nothing to do with greece's situation?
you are only telling half of the story bro, i just told the other half


bino's right on this one. Thing though that we have to understand is that those piece of shit greeks hired some piece of shit americans (GOldman) to hide thir problems from the EU. Things wouldn't have been nearely as bad had the EU discovered this a decade ago, and people in Greece would not have to go thorugh the amount of "austerity" that they have to now. Alot of people in the EU are grumbling that it was a deliberate move by the americans to destablize the euro. Whether that's true or not the perception is out there. Fucking Goldman should be ransacked for that and the executives tarred and feathered and made to run down 5th avenue
 
so over paid government officals doing little to no work, sweet gov backed pensions with all the trimmings, and a bloated gov work force having nothing to do with greece's situation?
you are only telling half of the story bro, i just told the other half

Im not saying there werent other reasons. But the underlining reasons were the rules made that allowed a country that Catered to the bankers and had negligible revenue because of said catering.

Im telling the MAIN story.

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Still the best system is capitalism with some regulation, but not an overabundance of regulation. Seems we are constantly trying to find that balance for laissez faire capitalism with regulation
 
Im not saying there werent other reasons. But the underlining reasons were the rules made that allowed a country that Catered to the bankers and had negligible revenue because of said catering.

Im telling the MAIN story.

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admittingly you appear to know more about the situation than i...but from what i've read their gov workforce was largely a farce that did little to zero work, were paid well, and had awesome retirements not equal to the private sector.
 
admittingly you appear to know more about the situation than i...but from what i've read their gov workforce was largely a farce that did little to zero work, were paid well, and had awesome retirements not equal to the private sector.


that might be a slight exaggeration. Greece's problems in the end are just plain ole abject corruption. Yes, Greeks are lazy and more worried about where the next piece of coos is comin at em from. But the problems we're seeing is the result of upper management not just fucking up, but hiding said fuckup from the boss (The EU) 10 years ago this could have been solved with some people exiting stage left.....but they wanted that nice comfy job and so hired some private sector folks to help em keep it. And in turn let some private sector folks get away with a whole lot. It's just corruption.....has nothing to do with either capitalism or socialism.
 
admittingly you appear to know more about the situation than i...but from what i've read their gov workforce was largely a farce that did little to zero work, were paid well, and had awesome retirements not equal to the private sector.

It is a farce. They had Government jobs made and picked people that would do what they were told no matter what.
Then those people would get paid in return.
Similar to the direction our Congress is going with the Citizens United ruling.




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that might be a slight exaggeration. Greece's problems in the end are just plain ole abject corruption. Yes, Greeks are lazy and more worried about where the next piece of coos is comin at em from. But the problems we're seeing is the result of upper management not just fucking up, but hiding said fuckup from the boss (The EU) 10 years ago this could have been solved with some people exiting stage left.....but they wanted that nice comfy job and so hired some private sector folks to help em keep it. And in turn let some private sector folks get away with a whole lot. It's just corruption.....has nothing to do with either capitalism or socialism.

so it's a complete concidence that one of the two biggest political parties in greece for the last 30 yrs has been the Panhellenic Socialist Movement??
 
so it's a complete concidence that one of the two biggest political parties in greece for the last 30 yrs has been the Panhellenic Socialist Movement??

Is our govt corrupt as hell? The corruption of the U.S govt goes back close to a 100 years. And during that time it was billed as the "one true capitalist" system. So yeah, i don't think corruption cares if you're socialist or capitalist.
 
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