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Low IQ and Conservative Beliefs linked to Prejudice

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Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice - Yahoo! News

There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.

"Prejudice is extremely complex and multifaceted, making it critical that any factors contributing to bias are uncovered and understood," he said.

Controversy ahead

The findings combine three hot-button topics.

"They've pulled off the trifecta of controversial topics," said Brian Nosek, a social and cognitive psychologist at the University of Virginia who was not involved in the study. "When one selects intelligence, political ideology and racism and looks at any of the relationships between those three variables, it's bound to upset somebody."

Polling data and social and political science research do show that prejudice is more common in those who hold right-wing ideals that those of other political persuasions, Nosek told LiveScience. [7 Thoughts That Are Bad For You]

"The unique contribution here is trying to make some progress on the most challenging aspect of this," Nosek said, referring to the new study. "It's not that a relationship like that exists, but why it exists."

Brains and bias

Earlier studies have found links between low levels of education and higher levels of prejudice, Hodson said, so studying intelligence seemed a logical next step. The researchers turned to two studies of citizens in the United Kingdom, one that has followed babies since their births in March 1958, and another that did the same for babies born in April 1970. The children in the studies had their intelligence assessed at age 10 or 11; as adults ages 30 or 33, their levels of social conservatism and racism were measured. [Life's Extremes: Democrat vs. Republican]

In the first study, verbal and nonverbal intelligence was measured using tests that asked people to find similarities and differences between words, shapes and symbols. The second study measured cognitive abilities in four ways, including number recall, shape-drawing tasks, defining words and identifying patterns and similarities among words. Average IQ is set at 100.

Social conservatives were defined as people who agreed with a laundry list of statements such as "Family life suffers if mum is working full-time," and "Schools should teach children to obey authority." Attitudes toward other races were captured by measuring agreement with statements such as "I wouldn't mind working with people from other races." (These questions measured overt prejudiced attitudes, but most people, no matter how egalitarian, do hold unconscious racial biases; Hodson's work can't speak to this "underground" racism.)

As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias.

People with lower cognitive abilities also had less contact with people of other races.

"This finding is consistent with recent research demonstrating that intergroup contact is mentally challenging and cognitively draining, and consistent with findings that contact reduces prejudice," said Hodson, who along with his colleagues published these results online Jan. 5 in the journal Psychological Science.

A study of averages

Hodson was quick to note that the despite the link found between low intelligence and social conservatism, the researchers aren't implying that all liberals are brilliant and all conservatives stupid. The research is a study of averages over large groups, he said.

"There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals," Hodson said.

Nosek gave another example to illustrate the dangers of taking the findings too literally.

"We can say definitively men are taller than women on average," he said. "But you can't say if you take a random man and you take a random woman that the man is going to be taller. There's plenty of overlap."

Nonetheless, there is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world.

"Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order," Hodson said, explaining why these beliefs might draw those with low intelligence. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice."

In another study, this one in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning. They found that what applies to racism may also apply to homophobia. People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays. As in the U.K. citizens, a lack of contact with gays and more acceptance of right-wing authoritarianism explained the link. [5 Myths About Gay People Debunked]

Simple viewpoints

Hodson and Busseri's explanation of their findings is reasonable, Nosek said, but it is correlational. That means the researchers didn't conclusively prove that the low intelligence caused the later prejudice. To do that, you'd have to somehow randomly assign otherwise identical people to be smart or dumb, liberal or conservative. Those sorts of studies obviously aren't possible.

The researchers controlled for factors such as education and socioeconomic status, making their case stronger, Nosek said. But there are other possible explanations that fit the data. For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.

"My speculation is that it's not as simple as their model presents it," Nosek said. "I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology where 'People I don't know are threats' and 'The world is a dangerous place'. ... Another simple way would be to just assume everybody is wonderful."

Prejudice is of particular interest because understanding the roots of racism and bias could help eliminate them, Hodson said. For example, he said, many anti-prejudice programs encourage participants to see things from another group's point of view. That mental exercise may be too taxing for people of low IQ.

"There may be cognitive limits in the ability to take the perspective of others, particularly foreigners," Hodson said. "Much of the present research literature suggests that our prejudices are primarily emotional in origin rather than cognitive. These two pieces of information suggest that it might be particularly fruitful for researchers to consider strategies to change feelings toward outgroups," rather than thoughts.
 
Polling data and social and political science research do show that prejudice is more common in those who hold right-wing ideals that those of other political persuasions, Nosek told LiveScience.

meh, i see a lot of racism couched in liberal ideology...this statement makes me wonder if the authors don't give validity to the belief that racists can be of non-white orgin, or that racism towards whites is some how less ugly and more acceptable.
and how different would this study have been if it had taken place 50 yrs ago when the left was the clear stalwart of racist ideology?? only been untill recently that the right has been RAYCIST @#$#@$#@
 
Polling data and social and political science research do show that prejudice is more common in those who hold right-wing ideals that those of other political persuasions, Nosek told LiveScience.

meh, i see a lot of racism couched in liberal ideology...this statement makes me wonder if the authors don't give validity to the belief that racists can be of non-white orgin, or that racism towards whites is some how less ugly and more acceptable.
and how different would this study have been if it had taken place 50 yrs ago when the left was the clear stalwart of racist ideology?? only been untill recently that the right has been RAYCIST @#$#@$#@

white liberal version of racism is the "we need to help these people because they can't do it on their own."

Basically stating minorities are too stupid or helpless to succeed with any measure on their own and need to be given handouts just to survive.

Unfortunately a lot of them buy it all hook, line and sinker.
 
Conservatives might generally be more up front with their racist tendencies, but that doesn't mean it isn't present in libs either. They're just more attuned to disguising it under the veil of politically correctness, or simply waiting til no one's around to hear/observe them.

Randomly observing casual conversations in even a semi public setting will reveal there are racist sentiments in most <30 yr old's especially. All that's needed is the right catalyst for them to spout off one offensive term or another.

The problem with indoctrinating so much tolerance in schools now is that it ignores the human nature of under-developed minds, which is to judge people that are different. Although there are always exceptions this is especially true of kids but also many adults, who don't like to be told what to do or controlled, and it's a tall order for many of them to keep their behavior in check.

It might be fine if all's going well, but the second it doesn't is when those judgmental feelings they've been holding back could boil over. We see it in the media now and then about someone's meltdown.
 
like if I get off the freeway in a city I don't know and find myself in nigger town and I take more precautions for my wife and kids I'm a bigot?
 
white liberal version of racism is the "we need to help these people because they can't do it on their own."

Basically stating minorities are too stupid or helpless to succeed with any measure on their own and need to be given handouts just to survive.

Unfortunately a lot of them buy it all hook, line and sinker.

black liberal racism
-"cowards" dont want to have a discussion about race (discussion meaning getting berated/called a racist/having to accept culpability for the sins of all white folks)
-disagreement with obama is racist ("tea partiers want to see blacks swinging from trees")
-whites owe blacks and will someday have to pay (hints of future violence)
 
actually, i'm too damned old and tired to hate anyone...'cept the french...fuckin' phags...

the French have done far more for America than any other
yoyo start with the revolution
jesus christ making fun of the french
they saved us
and the huns etc.
 
Well, at least now we have a scientific explanation for why conservatives are afraid that if homosexuals are allowed to marry they will destroy the fabric of hetero society ... they really do think queers will breed like bunnies and overrun straight culture.
 
Well, at least now we have a scientific explanation for why conservatives are afraid that if homosexuals are allowed to marry they will destroy the fabric of hetero society ... they really do think queers will breed like bunnies and overrun straight culture.

yo don't have shit
continue to post fool
 
yo don't have shit
continue to post fool
Actually, you're right, I don't. I checked back in, decided you really were shallow and rude, chuckled over this thread and the one in Philosophy and Religion about Islamic manscaping and I'm pretty much done for the evening.

One last thing, though, my husband? He really is the nicest guy I've ever met, nicer than me - I don't deserve him. Not only do I genuinely like him, I'm still in love with him after 18 years.

I just gotta wonder: Is anybody in love with you? :qt:
 
what the hell? I thought you two were besties
No, I don't think so/guess not/who the hell knows? I thought he was joking around once upon a time and I can take a joke but ... y'know what? I realize I also can be a bit thick on the forums and sometimes I really do need a smack up the back of the head. Sometimes I can't tell when someone is joking with me or just being plain mean and as a general rule of thumb it's better that people don't create posts that can be that easily misconstrued (which is why people get pissy with me for writing such long damned posts, because I DON'T want people misinterpreting my intention).

Long story short, waaaayyyy too easy to misinterpret intent, humorous, neutral or otherwise, on the internet.

Time for me to hit the hay, lady. Kisses to your doll-baby! :kiss:
 
white liberal version of racism is the "we need to help these people because they can't do it on their own."

Basically stating minorities are too stupid or helpless to succeed with any measure on their own and need to be given handouts just to survive.

Unfortunately a lot of them buy it all hook, line and sinker.

One of the things I agree with Bush the younger is on what he called the "soft racism of low expectations." I went to law school with a very attractive black woman that was also the daughter of an M.D. and she had attended private school with tutors, graduated from a good undergrad program and was fully capable of competing for law school admission. She was going to be successful in life regardless of the outcome of her law school admission results but she was given a preference based on the melanin in her skin. I can understand a socioeconomic preference but not one that treats an inner city kid raised on welfare the same as an upper middle class child; That's racist.
 
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you're a stupid bitch
later

come on Spart, really?

Why all this hate? What did she do to you?

MM is a good person. I can understand someone disagreeing with her beliefs, but I have a hard time seeing how anyone can dislike her so much.
 
This explains why all ngrs are dumb as fuck, cause they are the most prejudice race on earth. When I invent my TV network called CET (Caucasian Entertainment Television) I bet they get pissed and call me a racist.
 
This explains why all ngrs are dumb as fuck, cause they are the most prejudice race on earth. When I invent my TV network called CET (Caucasian Entertainment Television) I bet they get pissed and call me a racist.

Call it CUNT
Caucasians United Network Television
 
Call it CUNT
Caucasians United Network Television

Very good my man, you now have an Executive Producer job on CUNT TV
 
meh that's not really true.
france has an impressive military history, second only to britian in the west in exploits

you mean during the brief period of time that they were vying for world domination...yeah...they thought they were better than everyone else then too...fuck the french...bunch of smelly, pointy-nosed pussies.
 
you mean during the brief period of time that they were vying for world domination...yeah...they thought they were better than everyone else then too...fuck the french...bunch of smelly, pointy-nosed pussies.

I agree most of them smell like shit, clean is not a priority for French folk. And they sux at everything and their bitches gots hairy pits, although Frnch bitches do give a mena blowjob
 
pffft, no they don't...french-canadians are no more french than african-americans are african...apples and oranges.

Touché...... pun intended

But a good chunk of French Canadians do speak French.

Almost No "African Americans" speak any dialects of African languages.

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black liberal racism
-"cowards" dont want to have a discussion about race (discussion meaning getting berated/called a racist/having to accept culpability for the sins of all white folks)
-disagreement with obama is racist ("tea partiers want to see blacks swinging from trees")
-whites owe blacks and will someday have to pay (hints of future violence)


There are racists in both ideologies, the difference is that conservatives are scrutinized by the left-wing media, which makes up 95% of the media. Second, the universities peddle erroneous dogma that the "white man" is the cause of racism and slavery. That fact remains both white and black people are equally to blame for slavery. The Europeans were wrong for the Atlantic Slave Trade, there is no doubt. However, when the British, Dutch, and the French decided to end slavery in the early 1800s, delegates from the Ivory Coast went to Europe pleading with them not to abolish slavery because their entire economy relied on the slave trade (Howard Zinn: A peope's History of The United States). Moreover, there has been slaves since the beginning of time and they were mostly all white people. The media and the universities leave that out because of special interests. Far be it for them to disclose that black people helped enslave their own people ( Narrative of Olaudah Equiano). Consequenly, the left are basically trying to make white America sign a "guilt clause," which is absurd. I will reiterate what I said, both white and black people are to blame for the Atlantic Slave Trade.

African-Americans are free to express their dissent about servitude and criticize and shift blame on the white man without being held accountable. Simultaneously, if the white man expresses any dissent about being blamed for servitude they are deemed as racists.

A colleague of mine, who is from Zimbabwe, who has been teaching African history for years is one of the most outspoken racists I have ever met, and nobody confronts him about his behavior. He told me the reason why 50% of all inmates in prison are African-Americans is because the white man "extended slavery through the prison system." I asked him to explain that to me, his response was, "white judges lock-up blacks so they can extend slavery by sending blacks to jail by making them work for 25 cents a day." Moreover, he claims white people commit the same crimes as blacks but are aquitted opposed to blacks who get a lengthy prison sentence. He uses the Vagrant Act of 1866 to back up his claims, which I find ridiculous considering that was 150 yrs ago, very scanty evidence. Of course, he claims Jesus was black without any primary sources, I will leave that one on the shelf for the express reason to elude a futile internet argument. He also claims the 14th Amendment is ambiguous and is capable of enslaving blacks in some form. Again, I will elude my thoughts because internet arguments are futile.

He acts like he is superior to me because I have a Masters and he has a PhD, and he likes to throw it up in my face from time to time. My response is, "they must give out PhDs in Zimbabwe like they give out malaria shots."

Last, there is a difference of being a racist and being prejudice. I racist hates an entire race. Someone who is prejudice might not like things about a certain race but still might like the people. Moreover, every human has some kind of prejudice in their heart, anyone who says different is a liar...
 
Lets define racism...Racism is the belief that someone is inherently inferior based on a physical characteristic, like skin color. Also, everyone discriminates in their life, I discriminate against businesses that provide products I don't like....

AS much as I hate to agree with Ledhead on a level I disagree with his defense of prejudice....Slavery was an evil..my ancestors were enslaved by Rome. Agrarian economies with primitive technology supporting large populations need cheap labor.

However, you are focusing on race and not the people themselves by being prejudiced.

That being said, I had a Nigerian PHD for my History of Islam in Africa course but Africa has a long colonial history that ended well after slavery in the United States, he probably has other issues. I would point out that even under the despicable Jim Crow laws in the south a black person was better off than living under African leaders managing their own affairs free of colonialism .
 
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Lets define racism...Racism is the belief that someone is inherently inferior based on a physical characteristic, like skin color. Also, everyone discriminates in their life, I discriminate against businesses that provide products I don't like....

AS much as I hate to agree with Ledhead on a level I disagree with his defense of prejudice....Slavery was an evil..my ancestors were enslaved by Rome. Agrarian economies with primitive technology supporting large populations need cheap labor.

However, you are focusing on race and not the people themselves by being prejudiced.

That being said, I had a Nigerian PHD for my History of Islam in Africa course but Africa has a long colonial history that ended well after slavery in the United States, he probably has other issues. I would point out that even under the despicable Jim Crow laws in the south a black person was better off than living under African leaders managing their own affairs free of colonialism .


A racist is someone who hates an entire race. Being prejudice does not necessarily have to be related to race. There are financial, intellect, cosmetic, territory, and education prejudices, that are not related to race. Do you understand the point I was trying to convey?? We all have them in some manner...

Well, it is almost a shame that my people enslaved your people, almost!

Sono Italiano, siamo il piu grande, Cosa Nostra. Mi chiamo Cristoforo, lo so il nome Brian. Sono Caporegime, lo ti uccidero e la tua ragazza mi ama, ingannare!!!

Arrivederci, e perdente!!
 
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

The first definition...
"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."


Lets define prejudice...
"injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims."


I'm talking discrimination...that is an action...a verb; It's hard to go from noun to verb.
 
A racist is someone who hates an entire race. Being prejudice does not necessarily have to be related to race. There are financial, intellect, cosmetic, territory, and education prejudices, that are not related to race. Do you understand the point I was trying to convey?? We all have them in some manner...

Well, it is almost a shame that my people enslaved your people, almost!

Sono Italiano, siamo il piu grande, Cosa Nostra. Mi chiamo Cristoforo, lo so il nome Brian. Sono Caporegime, lo ti uccidero e la tua ragazza mi ama, ingannare!!!

Arrivederci, e perdente!!

on a different point, i feel no...zero...shame or responsibility for anything that happened to anyone when this country was settled (i.e., the native americans) or during the pre-civil war days (i.e., the slaves)...my ancestors were a bunch of hunky farmers and millworkers that moved here in 1910 and worked their asses off and, in a number of instances, fought and died for this country...we payed (and continue to pay) our debt of gratitude to this country through our actions and sacrifices...i don't feel like i owe anybody anything simply because of the color of their skin, or their sexual orientation, or the altar that they bow before, or the language that they speak; any more than i find any of those people to be inferior simply because of those fundamental differences.
 
on a different point, i feel no...zero...shame or responsibility for anything that happened to anyone when this country was settled (i.e., the native americans) or during the pre-civil war days (i.e., the slaves)...my ancestors were a bunch of hunky farmers and millworkers that moved here in 1910 and worked their asses off and, in a number of instances, fought and died for this country...we payed (and continue to pay) our debt of gratitude to this country through our actions and sacrifices...i don't feel like i owe anybody anything simply because of the color of their skin, or their sexual orientation, or the altar that they bow before, or the language that they speak; any more than i find any of those people to be inferior simply because of those fundamental differences.

Fuck that I want Super Hetero reparations.
Pay me now.

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I'm telling
 
Racism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

The first definition...
"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."


Lets define prejudice...
"injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims."


I'm talking discrimination...that is an action...a verb; It's hard to go from noun to verb.


I have ADD real bad, and I am having a hard time concentrating right now. Can someone chime in and read the posts and tell me wtf he is talking about and how the discussion lead to talking about nouns and verbs??? I am lost! Because I am pretty sure I already covered what he posted here...
 
I have ADD real bad, and I am having a hard time concentrating right now. Can someone chime in and read the posts and tell me wtf he is talking about and how the discussion lead to talking about nouns and verbs??? I am lost! Because I am pretty sure I already covered what he posted here...

He cant stay on subject. When he doesnt want to answer or cant, he goes on wild tangents.
Honestly you're not the one with ADD.

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He cant stay on subject. When he doesnt want to answer or cant, he goes on wild tangents.
Honestly you're not the one with ADD.

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Oh, I see! I thought I was struggling with my concentration deficiency. Thanks for bringing clarity to the thread, he suffers from discursiveness or he is just down right dumb...
 
Jeez, we've been paying reparations to The Blacks since the 1960s.

i.e. Welfare...

meh i'm not sure i agree with that.
whites suck up a lot of welfare dollars too...but reparations has been paid, albiet in a more cladestine way (pigford vs glickman court case)
 
I'm telling on all ya'll
 
He cant stay on subject. When he doesnt want to answer or cant, he goes on wild tangents.
Honestly you're not the one with ADD.

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I was posting the difference between racism and prejudice; That's the post topic.

I can justify my existence every five to seven years based on government defined productivity...can you?

 
Jeez, we've been paying reparations to The Blacks since the 1960s.

i.e. Welfare...

I'm still waiting for Italian reparations for my ancestral slavery but based on their bonds it's a good idea I moved on and made a life for myself.

I know brownbrown and ledhead don't understand personal responsibility and free markets but I try to enlighten them; I know it's a lost cause in the welfare state but I'm that guy that saw Rome in 400 CE from his estate that sees the collapse of his society.
 
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I'm still waiting for Italian reparations for my ancestral slavery but based on their bonds it's a good idea I moved on and made a life for myself.

I know brownbrown and ledhead don't understand personal responsibility and free markets but I try to enlighten them; I know it's a lost cause in the welfare state but I'm that guy that saw Rome in 400 CE from his estate that sees the collapse of his society.

Free markets = ? Unregulated market?
Personal responsibility =? Survival of the fitest, letting the middleclass and poor turn into serfs working for peanuts?

Sounds like simple rhetoric from you.

awfully regresive talk from you Progessive Coffeeguru.

You said we live in new times.... Read my sig.
Your words...........

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Free markets has been tried a few times... They all resulted in depressions or recessions.

You said, we have new and unique issues. Why would we try old tricks again?
 
Free markets has been tried a few times... They all resulted in depressions or recessions.

You said, we have new and unique issues. Why would we try old tricks again?

No, free markets have never been tried because they are always regulated and that isn't always a bad thing. The government should require transparency for publicly traded corporations, as well as policing for fraud. It should be noted the United States is currently the most regulated it has ever been and we are in the longest ongoing recession in modern history. Not in the technical definition but the reality of human suffering and malaise. With less regulation the valleys may be deeper but the recovery is quick.
 
No, free markets have never been tried because they are always regulated and that isn't always a bad thing. The government should require transparency for publicly traded corporations, as well as policing for fraud. It should be noted the United States is currently the most regulated it has ever been and we are in the longest ongoing recession in modern history. Not in the technical definition but the reality of human suffering and malaise. With less regulation the valleys may be deeper but the recovery is quick.

Seriously splitting hairs? Much Freer markets have been tried, and everytime they hang themselfs with greed and collapse the ecomomy within a decade.
The US is not the most regulated its ever been. It was more regulated in the 60's and 70's. Glass Steagall has been dismantled, statutory tax rate demolished, Collective bargaining ripped away...the list goes on.

lomgest reccesstion Not in the techinical sense? You're making an opinion statement on the entire US? I raise the bullshit flag.

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And back in 09 according to the fed the recession was officially over. Its sad that ppl still
Think it's a left and right issue. The jig has been up, neither party works for average American.
 
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And back in 09 according to the fed the recession was officially over. Its sad that ppl still
Think it's a left and right issue. The jig has been up, neither party works for average American.

Fed declared we were in "recovery" not the end of the ressession bro.
and I think it was 2010 they declared it.




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Glass~Steagall is almost 100 years old, put in place during The Great Depression. Its's been picked apart piece by piece by Conservatives since.

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llolololl..You mean when Slick Willy proclaimed the future of American economic prosperity was Wall Street?

I was doing my law school thesis in banking law when Clinton signed the repeal of Glass-Steagal...lol...It was a progressive initiative.

Slick Willy on the subject...
 
Let me explain how Wall street works...

I'll make a football analogy for the Superbowl.

The first string works for Goldman-Sachs and other premium firms with tenticles in government.
The second string works for the rating agencies.
The third string works in compliance.
The fourth string works for the government because they don't have the bonafides to do better.

Someone with a PHD makes on average 15% less than their private sector counterpart if they work for the federal government but someone with just a high school diploma makes 30% more than their counterpart in the private market. Your progressive ideology requires that the smartest people in the room need to make the plans but the smartest people don't go into government...The people with the largest egos do.

Government agencies only create a false sense of security when it comes to regulation.
 
llolololl..You mean when Slick Willy proclaimed the future of American economic prosperity was Wall Street?

I was doing my law school thesis in banking law when Clinton signed the repeal of Glass-Steagal...lol...It was a progressive initiative.

Slick Willy on the subject...

Clinton= Governed as a Moderate Republican. And thats is fine with me.

That's the only thing you have? One signing from one Dem President? So in 80 some odd years, he was the cause dismantling of Glass-steagle ?



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Clinton= Governed as a Moderate Republican. And thats is fine with me.

That's the only thing you have? One signing from one Dem President? So in 80 some odd years, he was the cause dismantling of Glass-steagle ?



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He signed the repeal...just sayin. Had Clinton not signed on it may still been the law of the land and the government been required to enforce a wall between banking and speculation. Like I said, Bill Clinton had a vision of Wall Street being the engine of US economic growth. When the federal government develops a plan for everyone it eventually hurts everyone except for Wall Street..they always get my money...Clinton bailed out wall street twice.
 
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I will
I can trow in mathematical equations
50 years of history
or just plain old commen sense
to point out to you communist/socialist creeps and losers
that studying in school will advance you and not camping out taking a shit
what dweebs
 
He signed the repeal...just sayin. Had Clinton not signed on it may still been the law of the land and the government been required to enforce a wall between banking and speculation. Like I said, Bill Clinton had a vision of Wall Street being the engine of US economic growth. When the federal government develops a plan for everyone it eventually hurts everyone except for Wall Street..they always get my money...Clinton bailed out wall street twice.
Governed like a Moderate Republican. Like I said.
And he wasn't the first one to De-fang Glass-Steagle. It started in the 60's .... there wasn't much left of it in 99.
 
STFU brown! Just drop it, who cares. I don't understand why you are such a hardcore Dem, like you're getting anything out of it. Dems fuck ppl in the ass just like repubs. What's your point. RP is really the only true mother fucker out on the field.
 
Governed like a Moderate Republican. Like I said.
And he wasn't the first one to De-fang Glass-Steagle. It started in the 60's .... there wasn't much left of it in 99.

How dare you despoil the reputation of a progressive icon...

He had a government plan that didn't work out so much. Humans are fallible but when we leave the plans to the many only those involved are harmed when their misguided plans go awry. When the feds make a plan we're all fucked.
 
STFU brown! Just drop it, who cares. I don't understand why you are such a hardcore Dem, like you're getting anything out of it. Dems fuck ppl in the ass just like repubs. What's your point. RP is really the only true mother fucker out on the field.

Indeed, Repubs and Dems are two wings of the same party.
 
STFU brown! Just drop it, who cares. I don't understand why you are such a hardcore Dem, like you're getting anything out of it. Dems fuck ppl in the ass just like repubs. What's your point. RP is really the only true mother fucker out on the field.

Your ASSumtion is Wrong.... Not A Dem...

Your Stupid ass comment that both parties are the same is typical of someone inder informed.
Ron Paul made his name From pandering to the Racists back the day. He's Not a true mother fucker.

DrOiD BioNiC EF App!
 
how fast are you gonna run?
or are you gonna let the govt pay your way
 
"Racism clouds fact. Easy to say that the Turks were evil for killing the Anzacs. What is hardly known is how the Turks and Australians/New Zealanders were good friends, and exchanged gifts at Christmas. Many Turks have been documented to be seen crying at their machine guns after shooting the waves at the Nek. I couldn't agree with you more, you are a great example of the ongoing mateship shown at that place."
and

"Lieutenant-Colonel John ' Bull ' Antill should have faced a court-martial for ordering the 3rd charge at 'the neck'. After the first 2 waves had been decimated it must have been obvious to any rational officer that a 3rd stood no chance of succeeding. He was Australian so we can't blame the British for this debacle.

The courage of these men leaves me awe struck ! They new they were facing certain death, i would have been 'crapping my pants'.

May they be remembered for eternity."
 
Back then the Rebublican party were the Liberals. During the 1890's Conservatives started joining the Republican party. Segregation is what the main factor was for the Coservatives going from the Democratic party to the Republican though.

at what point did the liberals start ruining the country
with their socialist crap
next time you are in the gym do 10 of 20 sets for me
 
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