Low estrogen cause libido problems?

[EatClen]

I have been running a Test E 840mg pw and Mast E 700mg pw cycle. Im in fourth week now and surprisingly got no libido at all. Between my second till third 1/2 week my libido went through the roof. But suddenly it has shut down. Between the end of the second week I got a lot of joint pain and it still keeps going. So I decided now to increase my Test E up to 1g pw assuming that more estrogen will aromatize and bring the estrogen level up a little bit so that the joint pain will go away.

My question is: Can a low estrogen level cause in men libido problems?

I've only thought that a high estrogen level can cause that?

 

[CanadianWolf]

What are you running as an ai? Low estrogen can most defiantly cause libido issues i've experienced it myself.

 

[EatClen]

I don't run an ai. But Masteron has the property same as an ai that is why my joint is hurting

 

[testionate]

My question is: Can a low estrogen level cause in men libido problems?

Yes, too low or too high is bad. Do you know it's low? Have you had a blood test? Mine is currently too high, so I sympathize with ya. Having no/low libido sucks.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Mast will control e but it's doubtful it'll lower it to sub double digit levels. The only way to know for sure is with a blood test.

It sounds like you're just taking too much shit. Libido isn't all about high T. It's also about stability and right now your body doesn't feel stable.

 

[EatClen]

@Nelson Monatana

I'll do a blood test soon. But lets assume that I have a very low estrogen level caused by mast e anti-aromatizing effect. In my opinion I'd have two options left.

1. increasing the test e
2. reducing mast e

since you have claimed that its not all about a high test level, are you telling me that an increase of test e will do anything for sore joints and libido issue even though it would increase the estrogen level?

in Addition I wonder how is 700mg-1000mg pw too much juice? That is as far as I know a common moderate dose?

 

[Zyglamail]

You libido is in the tank because your E is through the roof and unless your a monster competing at the elite level of BB your on way more juice than ya need. That alone can kill libido.

 

[jcnuts]

@Nelson Monatana

I'll do a blood test soon. But lets assume that I have a very low estrogen level caused by mast e anti-aromatizing effect. In my opinion I'd have two options left.

1. increasing the test e
2. reducing mast e

since you have claimed that its not all about a high test level, are you telling me that an increase of test e will do anything for sore joints and libido issue even though it would increase the estrogen level?

in Addition I wonder how is 700mg-1000mg pw too much juice? That is as far as I know a common moderate dose?

I'll bet you anything that your E is very HIGH! So high in fact that you're having libido issues. With that much test and no AI it's guaranteed. I would have Labs done immediately or drop your test in half and add an AI.

~johnycoolnuts~

 

[EatClen]

I'll bet you anything that your E is very HIGH! So high in fact that you're having libido issues. With that much test and no AI it's guaranteed. I would have Labs done immediately or drop your test in half and add an AI.

~johnycoolnuts~

First of all I have sore joints and don't got a bloat at all. second of all I don't have puffy nips nor are they itchy.

I used to had a test only cycle where I only used Test E 500mg pw and they got very itchy. But treated them with ai.

Right now, I don't feel any estrogen side effects, so it can't be considered as high level. Even though I gained in the last 4 weeks approximately 8-13lb water, somehow I still look everyday more leaner. Strength increase are also noticable. Bench press went from 2x 330lb up to 1x 364lb. hence I can rule out test e from being bunk.

 

[Nelson Montana]

@Nelson Monatana

I'll do a blood test soon. But lets assume that I have a very low estrogen level caused by mast e anti-aromatizing effect. In my opinion I'd have two options left.

1. increasing the test e
2. reducing mast e

since you have claimed that its not all about a high test level, are you telling me that an increase of test e will do anything for sore joints and libido issue even though it would increase the estrogen level?

in Addition I wonder how is 700mg-1000mg pw too much juice? That is as far as I know a common moderate dose?

First off, you have to stop guessing. Secondly, you have to stop treating drug problems with more drugs. Thirdly, if you think 1000 mgs is normal I'd say you are a casualty of message board mentality. I never did a gram TOTAL in my life and either have guys who've won major contests. Yet on message boards, it's considered "moderate" because guys are either not really bodybuilders who know how to train and know how to diet or, they're simply ignorant or lazy. Or both.

It's going around.

 

[jcnuts]

First of all I have sore joints and don't got a bloat at all. second of all I don't have puffy nips nor are they itchy.

I used to had a test only cycle where I only used Test E 500mg pw and they got very itchy. But treated them with ai.

Right now, I don't feel any estrogen side effects, so it can't be considered as high level. Even though I gained in the last 4 weeks approximately 8-13lb water, somehow I still look everyday more leaner. Strength increase are also noticable. Bench press went from 2x 330lb up to 1x 364lb. hence I can rule out test e from being bunk.

Doesn't mean a Damn thing buddy I promise you that. Stop guessing and go have bloodwork done because you're just going to make things worse by guessing and throwing more shit at the problem. Some people can walk around with E over 200 and never have sides, but doesn't mean it's good to do that.

~johnycoolnuts~

 

[Zyglamail]

darwinism.....

 

[NYMan203]

This is probably a stupid question but..

Too low or too high estrogen levels is bad for libido. And gyno is a result of having high estrogen levels so could taking something like letro (known to kill libido) to lower estrogen levels actually help libido by bringing estrogen down to a level it should be?

 

[northernknight]

This is probably a stupid question but..

Too low or too high estrogen levels is bad for libido. And gyno is a result of having high estrogen levels so could taking something like letro (known to kill libido) to lower estrogen levels actually help libido by bringing estrogen down to a level it should be?

Yes, something like Letro, but not Letro, dosing it in correct way without demolishing your Estrogen completely would be nearly impossible. Use Exemestane, Formestane, or other suicidal AI.

BTW. Gyno is result from imbalance in hormones, essentially having too low Testosterone to Estrogen ratio, with other factors (mostly other hormones) also having an effect. It's lot more complicated than just having high Estrogen levels.

 

[NYMan203]

That's pretty much what I thought I just wanted to ask and learn as much as I can. However, in my case I'm probably going to go with Letro because my gyno issues are from puberty and from what I've read exemestane and other suicidal AIs don't do anything to deal with existing gyno. Just preventing future estrogen conversion. Or am I wrong?

 

[northernknight]

That's pretty much what I thought I just wanted to ask and learn as much as I can. However, in my case I'm probably going to go with Letro because my gyno issues are from puberty and from what I've read exemestane and other suicidal AIs don't do anything to deal with existing gyno. Just preventing future estrogen conversion. Or am I wrong?

In that case, yes go with Letro, I thought that you were talking about lowering Estradiol be cause of libido problems.

For anti-gyno cycle I would run this:

Letrozole: start from 0.25-0.5 mgs and taper dose slowly up to 2-2.5 mgs and keep it there until your gyno is gone. Letro has pretty long half life, but I would still take it ED at least until you get to 2-2.5 mgs, then you can switch to EOD dosing.

Nolva: 20 mgs ED. Stop it at the same time with Letro.

Exemestane: start this few days before you drop Letro and Nolva to keep Estrogen rebound from them in control. Run it at 12.5 mgs EOD/E3D for 3-4 weeks. You can also run Formestane instead if you want.

You will also feel a lot better and have at least some libido while on Letro if you add Hcgenerate ES and Unleashed, Letro extremely strong and IME makes you feel like crap. N2Guard wouldn't be a bad addition either since Letro can be pretty harsh.

I excluded Caber/Prami, since Prolactin doesn't seem to have anything to do with your gyno problem. However, I suggest that you run bloods before beginning to treat your gyno, just to make sure that everything has been taken in to consideration.

Good luck bro, and feel free to PM me if you need more information, and I'll do my best to help out.