Looking for some feedback from MMA bro's

[Mikus]

I'm going to be starting to train for mma, but i'm ditching my old bodybuilding ways...

Looking for some feedback from you bro's in this thread on this thread http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=421486

K to all that can provide feedback

 

[Djimbe]

well , your Training isnt going to get EASIER ...

Youre basically just going to want oo shift Focus . youre going to go from a BB in traininfg to a Worlds Strongest man Compeditor in ttraining .

 

[Mikus]

right...i'd never expect it to be easier...i'm actually really looking forward to this, so my intensity should be where it was hwen i was really into bbing...

 

[Djimbe]

Well , new Challenges are always Inviorating , no ?

So just look into the Training of guys like Marius and Laslo , and you should be on the Right track !

 

[gimp]

well, I do MMA (mostly as a hobby). I don't agree with training for strength only..you'll wanna train for explosiveness. When doing BJJ, for instance, yes, it is an advantage to have power and strength, lots of guys who do BJJ concentrate solely on technique. They are usually excellent at submissions. however, if you've been lifting seriously for years, you can power through alot of the submissions with pure strength, be careful though, make sure you know what you are doing. But, you can't do this for long. The most valuable thing I learned was that lifting moderate weight with high/fast reps was better because when you are trying to pass guard for example, it's better to work in spurts. You can be in someones guard and not be working hard, then explode and change positions...most often I've noticed that eventhough someone is more experienced than me..they usually can't handle the amount of power I can muster up in short bursts. You'll also find that no matter how much cardio you do (if you are a bigger guy) that you'll burn out very quickly, so, this, technique of exploding and resting will work for you

 

[Judo Tom]

first realize that mat time and instruction will do far more for you at first then gym sessions..

then unless you have a solid base in all the major core lifts like squats,deads,mpress,rows you have to build that first.. look into a 5x5 program or an old school 3 day a week thing

once you have that i would start working on explsovieness,strength and endurance.

explosiveness comes from doing olympic lifts and variants of those exercises

endurance comes from training with high reps and little rest.

strength comes from the lower rep training

at first the endurance training will probably be most beneficial cause you can train longer and harder. try getting on a machine like a rows for example and rack a weight you think you can do 40x. do 40 reps and rest 10 secs then try it again for 30 and then rest 10 secs and try again for 20 reps.. adjust the weight while you rest if need be. after that go to chest or shoulders or squats or what not.

 

[gimp]

I disagree with only doing olympic lifts..you could do a basic bodybuilding routine and do the lifts explosively.

I do agree that technique and mat time are way more important than power..I am 220lbs, 10% BF and 6 foot 1. I get submitted by guys usually whom are like 60 pounds less than me.

If you look at Marc Coleman and Kevin Randleman, although you shouldn't compare yourself to pro's..but, there's no way those guys are just doing olympic lifts..Randleman himself has stated on many occasions that he does high rep and many super sets. They're physiques say it all.

this is just what I've noticed being a bigger guy..you have to work a little differently. I would concentrate more on my striking and how to defend submissions. I also prefer working from the guard, I can hold someone down until the ref stands us up.

this is all specualtion though. just go to class and see what you are good at...and what you're bad at..then work on what you're bad at.

 

[Mikus]

thanks for the feedback!

 

[Judo Tom]

never said only do olympic lifts.. just that they are a great tool for building explosiveness.. just wanted to clarify that

i wouldnt say that you should start doing benching,rowing, pressing explosively in the hopes that they will transfer over to explosive movements on the mat. you need to mimic the movements you do on the mat and do them explosively and o lifts do that way better then bench pressing or what not.. sand bags and kettles/clubs are even better

i actually stated that high rep low rest lifting on machines would be most beneficial at first.

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thats cool you prefer the guard.. most big guys i know have a weak guard and just always want to be on top.. i think big guys should get guard.. get control work for subs and then use sweeps to obtain the mount or take the back.. IMO..


oh and sprint, sprint sprint sprint and then run some more..

good luck

 

[Mikus]

thanks for everything bros, i appreciate it all