Looking for recommendations on first cycle.

[fitnate]

Ok so i've tossed around the idea of using AS for quite awhile. My training has gone really well over the last year of trying to cut and get leaner. I had a good amount of muscle mass already and my goal has always been to reach 8% BF or slightly lower. I want to get lean and stay lean.

However with cutting has also come the feeling that i'm pretty small in some areas. chest mainly. and although i have focused my lifts more towards that area. i still feel as if i could use some help.

Currently train at least 4 days a week. my diet is pretty clean. 4-5 meals i shoot for 50g of protein a meal with little to no carbs at all. "cutting"

my current stats are 5'9- 173lbs BF... unsure exactly maybe 12% ?

AGE 24 will be 25 very soon

over the last year i went from 199 to where i am now. with my diet being pretty spotty. i've tightened it up a lot and want to see the most progress from my workouts.


Looking for an ORAL. i dont like needles and have really no interest in doing them.

currently as far as supplements go i take oxy elite pro. and then PRE as a pre workout.


any help would be greatly appreciated. I have issues with back acne already so i'd like to limit that side effect as much as possible ..

heres photos of where im at now and where i was. Not the greatest photo but it's something



http://i46.tinypic.com/ou4bc7.jpg


not sure why i cant get the image to show up but its also my prof picture


Considered an ECA stack and have access to liquid ephedrine.but doesnt really help me to put on muscle.

 

[kubes]

Bro i would not suggest an oral only cycle as it will suppress your natty test leaving you feeling like garbage. There might be some out there that would suggest this but not me

 

[joeblow12345]

If you want an oral only then my suggestion is var, Tbol, or winny. Var is excellent for adding a little mass, lots of strength, and getting you lean. Tbol is like vars cheaper cousin. It's very similar in effects but more cost effective. Winny is a very strong cutting steroid that will shred you up. However, it will leave you with sore joints and its more harsh on your body in terms of sides. It's the strongest cutter out of the 3 IMO but the harshest. It also causes hairline issues so having n2shampoo on hand is a good idea. All orals are very strong by nature as mg for mg they are very potent, more so then injectables. So they require strong on cycle support. For this I recommend n2guard. I also recommend you get blood work post cycle to make sure everything went back to normal. Injectables are definitely safer IMO but to each their own. So when you decide which oral you want to use I can help you layout a game plan.

 

[NegroPops]

change your diet to help your weaknesses. You said you want to work on your chest because it is a weakness. So instead of eating low carbs on that workout day, have a high carb day, then the day after a high or medium card day to help you recover then a couple of low or no carb days, then back to high carbs when it is time to work chest again. It will still help you stay lean and cut, but also will help you put some size on your weak areas. This is what you call carb cycling.. and it works wonders.

Also, look into SARMS. They will suit your goals very well. Low to no sides and ideal and great for cutting and bulking up a little bit if your diet and training are on point.

 

[fitnate]

change your diet to help your weaknesses. You said you want to work on your chest because it is a weakness. So instead of eating low carbs on that workout day, have a high carb day, then the day after a high or medium card day to help you recover then a couple of low or no carb days, then back to high carbs when it is time to work chest again. It will still help you stay lean and cut, but also will help you put some size on your weak areas. This is what you call carb cycling.. and it works wonders.

Also, look into SARMS. They will suit your goals very well. Low to no sides and ideal and great for cutting and bulking up a little bit if your diet and training are on point.

appreciate it i will try that.

 

[kmoe4747]

Oral only will be hard on your liver. Be sure to get a liver aid if you decide to go oral only. No experience with var or tbol but I know as soon as you stop taking d Bol you will drop all the water weight you gained so not worth it IMO. I was freaked out by needles to but once you do your first shot you won't even think twice on your next ones.

 

[Jbranken]

Nice progress. I like your honesty about needles. Most guys going the oral route won't admit it. The problem with the acne situation is when you mess with hormones, you never know if or when it will come about. Any aas can cause this side but some more than others. When I started out in aas I did it for the same reasons you are, my chest. but its the wrong reason. The only way I saw good progress in my chest has been changing up routines. Steroids alone won't do it. Sarms would be a great start or If you really want to go the oral steroid route, I'd consider using test, maybe even a transdermal if you're that afraid of pinning

 

[buddhabuilder]

Please post your age for more feedback about gear. It sounds like you have a decent base and, IMO, this is the point that you will benefit most from developing a scientific approach to your diet and training. Because you have your bf under control, you can experiment with raising and lowering carbs in order to put on size while not gaining alot of fat. I recommend the SL 5x5 program for 12 weeks while consuming about 3200 calories a day, including 340 grams of protein. This approach will help you fill out every area of your physique, and with this new quality mass, you will more easily burn off the excess fat. So you will be bigger, and with close attention, even more ripped.

 

[ajperretta]

Just do a basic cycle that incorporates testosterone. Any decent oral will need to have test also because it will shut your balls down. So after a couple weeks of orals, you will have no test and get crap for results and waste all the orals. You could run var or dbol along with a modest dose of test 350-500 mg per week and get great results. Do it 8-10 weeks and you will be happy.

 

[Nelson Montana]

25 mgs of Tbol for 4 weeks+ N2GUARD