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Look like a veteran Pro bodybuilder and only is 21 years old....

he has really shitty back width, needs some better upper body development too.

but he's solid otherwise - things will come in time and he'll be a force.
 
could be 21.9...
 
That motherfucker is huge, should have never gave up football, would be in the nfl for sure right now, but guess bodybuilding became his passion....Mr.O for sure in the future no doubt if he works like he is now
 
my cycles are pretty hardcore and im 21.... i cant imagine he could look like that unless he was using GH and slin...as well as being on since 17-18 withouth ever coming off?
 
I don't really believe that story, if he didn't work upper body, and just started " a year and a half ago" I don't think that before pic is real at all. Huge legs
 
I'm most impressed by his legs. But he's definitely been on a lot for a while, and it shows. He looks like he's in his 30's. He needs to work on his back width though. It's pretty weak. Then again, I've been able to make huge gains on back width in 3 months so I dont doubt this kid will be the next Phil Heath.
 
Yeah, the guy is unbeleivable. It's hard to explain how this can make you feel when your 6 years older than this guy, and it would take you another 10 years to even get half that size. He didn't make any mistakes, no trial and error I'll tell you that. He had someone training him from day 1 that knew exactly what they were doing. Oh, and GH is a must, to have that much size, and vascularity at such a young age. He did everything right in my opinion. I guarantee after my 15 years of juicing, I could take a young kid with awesome genetics and turn him into a beast. I've already done all the research and made all the mistakes for him. Gotta have good genetics, hard work ethic, and a well educated trainer. He's been on growth for a while though. His facial features changed drastically from the two years prior to that video, and his body is way more mature than any given 21 year old.
 
Watson said:
Yeah, the guy is unbeleivable. It's hard to explain how this can make you feel when your 6 years older than this guy, and it would take you another 10 years to even get half that size. He didn't make any mistakes, no trial and error I'll tell you that. He had someone training him from day 1 that knew exactly what they were doing. Oh, and GH is a must, to have that much size, and vascularity at such a young age. He did everything right in my opinion. I guarantee after my 15 years of juicing, I could take a young kid with awesome genetics and turn him into a beast. I've already done all the research and made all the mistakes for him. Gotta have good genetics, hard work ethic, and a well educated trainer. He's been on growth for a while though. His facial features changed drastically from the two years prior to that video, and his body is way more mature than any given 21 year old.
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Very good point. Most people including me took years to get to a point where they could say that they knew what they were doing. When I started diet was a mess. Took me yrs to figure that out. Until the diet was straigtened out there wasn't a whole lot of progress. A couple years wasted there. And then of course training improperly. Wanting to do curls for the girls every other day and stay clear of the squat rack because that was too much effort.
I'm sure this guy ate and trained perfectly from day 1 and had amazing genetics to boot. Lucky bastard.
 
originally a powerlifter
never really worked his upperbody other than bench, fucking insane
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but I read that lifting heavy weights for low reps made you fat. did he stop wasting his time on the basics and start doing tbol and kickbacks to build some quality mass?

kid is a freak for sure, genetics + work ethic = damn!
 
Juiced to the fucking gills,Great fucking genetics, Good nutrition and a endless supply of gear{Make no mistake about that....He never stops gear}.
 
youngguns said:
I think he's freaking awsome. Definatly a typical bodybuilder though.
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Most BB's are not typical at all. Everyone I know is an individual and for the most part intelligent. Yeah...kid is not on the bright side but hey, he has good physical genetics. I do not care how much gear he did in the past or now. Boy has it going on for sure. Reminds me of Erik Fankhouser. I competed aginst him in 2005, his second show...he beat me by a point. He was 4th at the North Americans, his 3rd show! Only 24 yo at the time! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzOZDOxNCJ0

Quad
 
Yeah he added 50lbs of muscle in one year. I hear he is maxed out on dosages though. My buddys friend beat him out of 3nd place in 05 teen nationals i believe....
 
man he's big for 21, I wonder if his mom packs his lunch everyday, and pays for his food, his food bill must be huge too
 
Quadsweep said:
Most BB's are not typical at all. Everyone I know is an individual and for the most part intelligent. Yeah...kid is not on the bright side but hey, he has good physical genetics. I do not care how much gear he did in the past or now. Boy has it going on for sure. Reminds me of Erik Fankhouser. I competed aginst him in 2005, his second show...he beat me by a point. He was 4th at the North Americans, his 3rd show! Only 24 yo at the time! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzOZDOxNCJ0

Quad
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WHAT a calf...
 
Who said 'Juicing' as a teenager was wrong? :chomp:
Where are the 'He could have gained that naturally" comments gone lol
Thats one big boy.
 
Youngnutz your comment about a "typical bodybuilder" is probably one of the dumbest things I have ever seen posted here by you or anyone else. In case you missed it, a lot of guys here compete, as do some of the women. So exactly what are you trying to say about them?

And yeah damn that kid is jacked lol. I wish I had some genetics like that.
 
The guy really has some freaky genetics for sure! Does anyone remember Shane Dimora, think I got spelling right, from the 80s? I think he still holds the record for the youngest man to turn pro. I want to say he turned pro at the age of 21. He just faded away though once he turned pro. Yikes, just did research and he turned pro at age 19!! Happened in 1987. Doubt this will ever be beat.
 
a bomb said:
Before and after pics before Trey did the 2006 Excalibur....
brewer_beforeafter.jpg
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But see even as a fat guy he looks pretty fuckin awsome. I miean to have that size at 20!? And he has good definition at prob 20%BF. You can tell by his fat picture that his genetics are killer. The rest was dieting and of course hard work and drugs. Lucky asshole!
 
maldorf said:
The guy really has some freaky genetics for sure! Does anyone remember Shane Dimora, think I got spelling right, from the 80s? I think he still holds the record for the youngest man to turn pro. I want to say he turned pro at the age of 21. He just faded away though once he turned pro. Yikes, just did research and he turned pro at age 19!! Happened in 1987. Doubt this will ever be beat.
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I remember him. Gaspari was young too as was Shawn Ray....Cutler was fairly young also.

Quad
 
git_er_done said:
That motherfucker is huge, should have never gave up football, would be in the nfl for sure right now
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Last time I checked you need to be more than just big to play in the NFL. The guy can barely walk on a treadmill.
 
cityhick said:
Just TWO words......ROID STORE!
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I asked him personally at the Arnold last year about his pre-comp cycle, said he uses D-ANABOL, D-BLADE, and WINN 50. Also uses ZMA's as his PCT.
 
git_er_done said:
That motherfucker is huge, should have never gave up football, would be in the nfl for sure right now, but guess bodybuilding became his passion....Mr.O for sure in the future no doubt if he works like he is now
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I honestly would much rather be Mr O and be a prof bodybuilder than spend my life beating my body up on the football field in the league.

I played sports all my life, including D1 football in college... and every day my body hurts so god damn bad... I think my kids will take up golf :jenscat
 
youngguns said:
you're not too bright eh son?
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Its tough to even respond since you couldn't put enough words together to explain your "comment" but let me try anyway. What do you think that guy's 40 time is? Why is it huge guys get cut from college football teams all the time (and this guy didn't even make it past HS)? Or, if your little brain is still having trouble getting around the fact the big slow powerlifters are not suited for anything except moving a really heavy weight in one direction - name one single bodybuilder that has ever made the transition to ANY professional sport.
 
Anthony Starks said:
Its tough to even respond since you couldn't put enough words together to explain your "comment" but let me try anyway. What do you think that guy's 40 time is? Why is it huge guys get cut from college football teams all the time (and this guy didn't even make it past HS)? Or, if your little brain is still having trouble getting around the fact the big slow powerlifters are not suited for anything except moving a really heavy weight in one direction - name one single bodybuilder that has ever made the transition to ANY professional sport.
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I completely agree. What was the comment about not too bright son?? Does this guy or the others who posted about him playing NFL really know anything about skill. I know several lineman that play in the NFL because they used to play here at Iowa and I've seen these guys do backflips and dives off diving boards at after hours parties drunk that a normal gymnast or diver would have to concentrate at. Anyone familiar with Robert Gallery (Raiders) or Eric Steinbach (Bengals)? Size is the beginning factor, there is alot more to it after that though. Skill is probably the main one.
 
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