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jiggagold said:
Lotta mad slobs in here
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lol :heart:

oh, and mav..I'm not depressed because some internet losers don't like what I say I want out of a relationship or my personality in one. I doubt the other girls really care either. Seriously? I spend more time thinking about what color bow my daughter will wear in her hair each day than on the opinions of anyone on here. you all think what you want...it does not matter :)
 
Oh look, it's the "american women suck, foreign women are awesome" conversation! It's been too long since we've brought this up, definitely overdue lol

My dad was wrapped around my pinky from birth, but he still managed to raise a level headed daughter who doesn't expect the world to be at her beck and call, so I don't think fault lies with the dad, BB. But I do agree that certain behaviors are bred by culture and our culture is definitely one of entitlement. Honestly I think a big part of where it's learned is from the mothers and observation of how they behave in relationships. I grew up with a mom who cooked, cleaned and in general doted on my father. She was very much the nurturer (even though she was also the breadwinner). When I think about it a lot of the ways I act in relationships mirror hers (both negative and positive).
 
better he be wrapped around your finger than you "wrapped around his"


i mean this in the most perverted way possible
 
The expectations both men and women have set for eachother nowdays seem to work against the idea of a good healthy relationship. Women are expected to handle a 1000 different things per day, kids, shopping, schools, etc etc and then come home and be that sex goddess you crave for. Somewhat impossible IMO. Men are expected to provide, work, etc and in todays world obviously that isnt coming as easy for the "average" dood. Long stressful hours at work or w/e example you want to throw in there just taking away from the positive things they could be putting into their wives/families. Women want the reassurance, communicatoin, appreciation, devotion, and love but dont realize that task isnt quite as easy as it seems. Times have changed and frankly it sucks sometimes.
 
nefertiti said:
My dad was wrapped around my pinky from birth, but he still managed to raise a level headed daughter who doesn't expect the world to be at her beck and call, so I don't think fault lies with the dad, BB. But I do agree that certain behaviors are bred by culture and our culture is definitely one of entitlement. Honestly I think a big part of where it's learned is from the mothers and observation of how they behave in relationships. I grew up with a mom who cooked, cleaned and in general doted on my father. She was very much the nurturer (even though she was also the breadwinner). When I think about it a lot of the ways I act in relationships mirror hers (both negative and positive).
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With all due respect, Nef, I think you are an exception to the rule. And, I didn't mean to imply all women raised by men carried an aspect of entitlement, nor that all men indulge their daughters (my biological didn't even want girls). It's my opinion that this sense of entitlement based on beauty starts with the rewards of a father figure. I think it's unlikely mothers reward a girl for being pretty over being industrious.

I'm not a sociologist, this is just my opinion. I think it's safe to say that most women don't get this sense of entitlement from their mothers. I was raised by my mother and grandmother, both of whom worked full time jobs. We girls were always expected to do whatever we can for this household, which included chores, as well as jobs starting at 12 years old. No one handed us anything because we were *pretty*, so we never came through adolescence and young adulthood expecting anyone owed us anything because of what we looked like. The examples of male relative attention was from one particular uncle and one particular grandfather which my mother wisely noticed and kept at a distance...she, as well as we girls, could have gotten anything we wanted from them, but we didn't. My mother taught us to be self-sufficient and that accomplishment was more worthy than appearance. Both my sisters are more successful than I, me, being the black sheep with only a few fellowships under my belt. lol

I do agree that we are part and parcel of our culture but that certain social mores, and even folkways, originate from the family unit.
 
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SPEKTOR-AAA said:
The expectations both men and women have set for eachother nowdays seem to work against the idea of a good healthy relationship. Women are expected to handle a 1000 different things per day, kids, shopping, schools, etc etc and then come home and be that sex goddess you crave for. Somewhat impossible IMO. Men are expected to provide, work, etc and in todays world obviously that isnt coming as easy for the "average" dood. Long stressful hours at work or w/e example you want to throw in there just taking away from the positive things they could be putting into their wives/families. Women want the reassurance, communicatoin, appreciation, devotion, and love but dont realize that task isnt quite as easy as it seems. Times have changed and frankly it sucks sometimes.
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oh please,

sex is the most basic of needs and actions. its not that hard to let a dood fuck. i can see her not wanting to do more than "just lay there".

but shit, go to sleep while gettin fucked if ur that tired woman
 
nefertiti said:
Oh look, it's the "american women suck, foreign women are awesome" conversation! It's been too long since we've brought this up, definitely overdue lol

My dad was wrapped around my pinky from birth, but he still managed to raise a level headed daughter who doesn't expect the world to be at her beck and call, so I don't think fault lies with the dad, BB. But I do agree that certain behaviors are bred by culture and our culture is definitely one of entitlement. Honestly I think a big part of where it's learned is from the mothers and observation of how they behave in relationships. I grew up with a mom who cooked, cleaned and in general doted on my father. She was very much the nurturer (even though she was also the breadwinner). When I think about it a lot of the ways I act in relationships mirror hers (both negative and positive).
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So did mine(mother doting on dad)..I don't think my dad knows where the forks are stored to this day...lol..but my Mom also worked outside the home and tried to do everything. My Dad adores me but he does not put up with a bunch of shit either...he does not put up with any shit really....still to this day but I can tell when I speak to him he hangs on my every word..he values my opinion for some reason and cares about me. :) It wasn't a bond that was formed at birth..we didn't bond at all until I was in my 20's.

This isn't going to be popular..but I think a lot men don't naturally know how to love...or at least they don't know how to show it
 
Dear men,

Approx. 3.2 BILLION women live on the planet. Some like sex more than others. In fact, I liked to have sex WAY more often than my last boyfriend. Nobody said finding the perfect 1 out of 3billion was going to be easy for you. So STFU and sit down.

And lol @ saying women are the complainers when so many threads around here involve men complaining about not getting enough puss. Just cuz we complain about diff things doesn't make our complaining any less annoying than yours. It's not a big deal. If a girl doesn't fuck you as much as you'd like her too, leave her and keep the search a-movin til you find a girl who will spread em more often. Sitting here complaining about how certain women don't give you enough sex isn't going to get you any.
 
cindylou said:
This isn't going to be popular..but I think a lot men don't naturally know how to love...or at least they don't know how to show it
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We know how to love. The problem is we show it the wrong way. We are content with a simple "I love you" and wimmenz are typically wanting more.
 
SPEKTOR-AAA said:
We know how to love. The problem is we show it the wrong way. We are content with a simple "I love you" and wimmenz are typically wanting more.
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yeah..saying it does not mean a thing...just words

but after being in a 7 year relationship...which is the longest I've been in..I'm "only" 29...I can say that I at least appreciate effort. :)
 
cindylou said:
yeah..saying it does not mean a thing...just words

but after being in a 7 year relationship...which is the longest I've been in..I'm "only" 29...I can say that I at least appreciate effort. :)
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Exactly thats the gap. To me words mean EVERYTHING, you not so much.

7 YEARS damn....u bored? lol
 
BlueBird said:
With all due respect, Nef, I think you are an exception to the rule. And, I didn't mean to imply all women raised by men carried an aspect of entitlement, nor that all men indulge their daughters (my biological didn't even want girls). It's my opinion that this sense of entitlement based on beauty starts with the rewards of a father figure. I think it's unlikely mothers reward a girl for being pretty over being industrious.

I'm not a sociologist, this is just my opinion. I think it's safe to say that most women don't get this sense of entitlement from their mothers. I was raised by my mother and grandmother, both of whom worked full time jobs. We girls were always expected to do whatever we can for this household, which included chores, as well as jobs starting at 12 years old. No one handed us anything because we were *pretty*, so we never came through adolescence and young adulthood expecting anyone owed us anything because of what we looked like. The examples of male relative attention was from one particular uncle and one particular grandfather which my mother wisely noticed and kept at a distance...she, as well as we girls, could have gotten anything we wanted from them, but we didn't. My mother taught us to be self-sufficient and that accomplishment was more worthy than appearance. Both my sisters are more successful than I, me, being the black sheep with only a few fellowships under my belt. lol

I do agree that we are part and parcel of our culture but that certain social mores, and even folkways, originate from the family unit.
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We are talking about two different sources of learning. You are theorizing about learning from the experience of the father/daughter relationship....I'm talking about learning from the observation of the mother father relationship. The things I got from my parents, personality wise, came from the observation side (subconsciously) more then my specific relationship dynamic with them. Heck, I spent most of my childhood resenting the hell out of my mom, but I grew up damn close to being like her (and I'm glad for it).
 
cindylou said:
This isn't going to be popular..but I think a lot men don't naturally know how to love...or at least they don't know how to show it
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I don't agree....I just think it's like that 5 love languages thing. Women and men often speak different love languages and the way a guy might show his love for a woman may not be the thing we need to feel loved.
 
nefertiti said:
I don't agree....I just think it's like that 5 love languages thing. Women and men often speak different love languages and the way a guy might show his love for a woman may not be the thing we need to feel loved.
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check your k :D not PC so I'm not gonna post it. :D :D
 
AFeedz said:
Dear men,

Approx. 3.2 BILLION women live on the planet. Some like sex more than others. In fact, I liked to have sex WAY more often than my last boyfriend. Nobody said finding the perfect 1 out of 3billion was going to be easy for you. So STFU and sit down.

And lol @ saying women are the complainers when so many threads around here involve men complaining about not getting enough puss. Just cuz we complain about diff things doesn't make our complaining any less annoying than yours. It's not a big deal. If a girl doesn't fuck you as much as you'd like her too, leave her and keep the search a-movin til you find a girl who will spread em more often. Sitting here complaining about how certain women don't give you enough sex isn't going to get you any.
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are u flirting with me? u said sex like 10 times
 
nefertiti said:
We are talking about two different sources of learning. You are theorizing about learning from the experience of the father/daughter relationship....I'm talking about learning from the observation of the mother father relationship. The things I got from my parents, personality wise, came from the observation side (subconsciously) more then my specific relationship dynamic with them. Heck, I spent most of my childhood resenting the hell out of my mom, but I grew up damn close to being like her (and I'm glad for it).
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I think this is a pretty typical mother/daughter relationship and kinda why I believe that mothers are less likely to reward their daughters for something superficial...daughters may not get the affirmation so easily from their moms as their fathers, hence the resentment. (Not meant to speculate on your personal history, just something I feel in general.) There were plenty of times I resented decisions my mom made but I, too, find that I've grown into a woman similar to her, and for that, I'm pretty proud. :)
 
AFeedz said:
Dear men,

Approx. 3.2 BILLION women live on the planet. Some like sex more than others. In fact, I liked to have sex WAY more often than my last boyfriend. Nobody said finding the perfect 1 out of 3billion was going to be easy for you. So STFU and sit down.

And lol @ saying women are the complainers when so many threads around here involve men complaining about not getting enough puss. Just cuz we complain about diff things doesn't make our complaining any less annoying than yours. It's not a big deal. If a girl doesn't fuck you as much as you'd like her too, leave her and keep the search a-movin til you find a girl who will spread em more often. Sitting here complaining about how certain women don't give you enough sex isn't going to get you any.
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I completely agree with the bolded part.

Here's the rub though. Virtually all women give it up a lot early-on. But for some (many), it diminishes over time. It may take six months, a year or even multiple years for the unknowing guy to discover it.

Here's a reasonable compromise: If the sex drops off, the guy should be able to get some on the side until his overall sexual activity is back to its initial level.

Fair enough?
 
mrplunkey said:
I completely agree with the bolded part.

Here's the rub though. Virtually all women give it up a lot early-on. But for some (many), it diminishes over time. It may take six months, a year or even multiple years for the unknowing guy to discover it.

Here's a reasonable compromise: If the sex drops off, the guy should be able to get some on the side until his overall sexual activity is back to its initial level.

Fair enough?
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Lol no. That goes back to me saying the search isn't easy. If someone is no logger satisfying your needs, find someone else who will (preferably after at least trying to work it out if you actually care about the person).
 
AFeedz said:
Lol no. That goes back to me saying the search isn't easy. If someone is no logger satisfying your needs, find someone else who will (preferably after at least trying to work it out if you actually care about the person).
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But what if the decrease in sex occurs years later? Picture some guy who is married, has a kid or two and is providing more security than ever (paycheck, house, etc. etc.). If the woman changes the deal on him 3-4 years into the agreement, he's got two choices:

1) Leave: Which entails wrecking his personal finances and giving-up at least half (or more) time with his kid.

2) Stay: And live under the new deal.

That's why my alternative should be allowed. If the woman makes a unilateral decision to reduce her sexual activity level, the guy should be able to make a unilateral decision to outsource the difference.

This should become universal "man law". Can I count on your support?
 
mrplunkey said:
But what if the decrease in sex occurs years later? Picture some guy who is married, has a kid or two and is providing more security than ever (paycheck, house, etc. etc.). If the woman changes the deal on him 3-4 years into the agreement, he's got two choices:

1) Leave: Which entails wrecking his personal finances and giving-up at least half (or more) time with his kid.

2) Stay: And live under the new deal.

That's why my alternative should be allowed. If the woman makes a unilateral decision to reduce her sexual activity level, the guy should be able to make a unilateral decision to outsource the difference.

This should become universal "man law". Can I count on your support?
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Meh, a better conclusion is to just not get married.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
guys, the thread was a joke. wtf? lol
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We know...but in typical EF fashion, it turned into a men want sex, women want something else but nobody knows what thread.

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Edit: ^^ And by I, I mean somewhere along and someone else.
 
AFeedz said:
We know...but in typical EF fashion, it turned into a men want sex, women want something else but nobody knows what thread.

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Edit: ^^ And by I, I mean somewhere along and someone else.
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its no secret what women want. its just unreasonable. they want constant change in the positive direction.

stepwise.

they want some money, a sorta nice dude, some nice things. for like a few months.

then they want sommore money than they are used to, dude to be even nicer, even more nice things. add vacations.

then they want even more money some kids, a bigger house, a new car, that was better than their last one, and a maid and nanny that travels with them on vacations. add a swimming pool.

the only way to keep a woman *happy* is with excitement. its sort of like building muscle. except instead of building the relationship, u have to keep adding stimulus to maintain whatcha got
 
Sub-Zero said:
its no secret what women want. its just unreasonable. they want constant change in the positive direction.

stepwise.

they want some money, a sorta nice dude, some nice things. for like a few months.

then they want sommore money than they are used to, dude to be even nicer, even more nice things. add vacations.

then they want even more money some kids, a bigger house, a new car, that was better than their last one, and a maid and nanny that travels with them on vacations. add a swimming pool.

the only way to keep a woman *happy* is with excitement. its sort of like building muscle. except instead of building the relationship, u have to keep adding stimulus to maintain whatcha got
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douche
 
Sub-Zero said:
its no secret what women want. its just unreasonable. they want constant change in the positive direction.

stepwise.

they want some money, a sorta nice dude, some nice things. for like a few months.

then they want sommore money than they are used to, dude to be even nicer, even more nice things. add vacations.

then they want even more money some kids, a bigger house, a new car, that was better than their last one, and a maid and nanny that travels with them on vacations. add a swimming pool.

the only way to keep a woman *happy* is with excitement. its sort of like building muscle. except instead of building the relationship, u have to keep adding stimulus to maintain whatcha got
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^^^ this is true.

And all of the woman's wants increase against a backdrop of less sweetness and less sex given on her part.

The guy is driven toward appreciating in value over time, while the woman depreciates at an even faster rate. Then they act shocked then the guy has a 40 year old "crisis" and winds-up on top of a 19 year-old babysitter.
 
mrplunkey said:
The guy is driven toward appreciating in value over time, while the woman depreciates at an even faster rate.
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You keep saying this and it's only true if that were the deal which had been struck to begin with (beauty for money). Many men are made redundant by the simple fact there are more and more new graduates, with more skill, willing to work these men's jobs, for less. You are a highly skilled professional who keeps abreast of your industry, so yeah, your *value* will probably continue to escalate. You are not the average. I hate talking in terms of monetizing human beings, because I don't subscribe to it, but if you keep insisting a man's value is based on what he can produce and a woman's value based on how she looks, then this 'race' is a helluva lot more even than you think.

Oh, Imma liken the new, more nihilistic Cindylou. I wish c00per would chop a Cindylou Nietzsche. :)
 
BlueBird said:
You keep saying this and it's only true if that were the deal which had been struck to begin with (beauty for money). Many men are made redundant by the simple fact there are more and more new graduates, with more skill, willing to work these men's jobs, for less. You are a highly skilled professional who keeps abreast of your industry, so yeah, your *value* will probably continue to escalate. You are not the average. I hate talking in terms of monetizing human beings, because I don't subscribe to it, but if you keep insisting a man's value is based on what he can produce and a woman's value based on how she looks, then this 'race' is a helluva lot more even than you think.

Oh, Imma liken the new, more nihilistic Cindylou. I wish c00per would chop a Cindylou Nietzsche. :)
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I completely agree with both of the statements I bolded.

There are truckloads of guys who's careers (and ability to provide security) flame-out somewhere between 25 and 65. If that guy has bottomed-out at 35 while his wife has taken great care of herself (inside and out... not just physical), he's going to eventually come home to a "Dear John" letter. She won't pin it on his flame-out, but will instead use terms like: "I don't feel the same way about you" or "you've changed". Sure, she may have to remarry a little older (i.e. a 10ish year older guy), but she'll eventually get that security she needs.

Where's that link to the Tyra Banks show when I need it?????
 
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I completely agree with both of the statements I bolded.
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So, you're saying you don't completely agree with the sentence in between...
You are a highly skilled professional who keeps abreast of your industry, so yeah, your *value* will probably continue to escalate. You are not the average.
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:D
 
Let's just give up on the value talk. Just be with people who make you happy. If someone stops making you happy, leave and find someone who will. Period. My dad left my mom when he was 50 years old and they're both happier than they were together. People need to just worry about making themselves happier and it'll make their other relationships better by default bc theyll be without the added stress of a mutually unsatisfying relationship.
 
javaguru said:
Cindy, just tell them you deserve a two carat diamond for all the male bullshit you tolerate...:)
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just two? :rolleyes:

Don't forget to buy me a big house and take me on lots of luxury vacations

I deserve it cuz I'm cute and pretty
 
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AFeedz said:
Let's just give up on the value talk. Just be with people who make you happy. If someone stops making you happy, leave and find someone who will. Period. My dad left my mom when he was 50 years old and they're both happier than they were together. People need to just worry about making themselves happier and it'll make their other relationships better by default bc theyll be without the added stress of a mutually unsatisfying relationship.
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/agree

But I believe that the concept of value (in the broadest sense, not simply $$$) is a great way of looking at the long-term viability of relationships.
 
cindylou said:
douche x 2

when was your last LTR and how long was it?
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9/06-9/09- three years, got engaged, broke up for certain reasons more related to me figuring out Im against marriage personally than anything. We are actually really close now. She was blaq
10/04-08/06- two years ten months, broke up because i didnt see marriage with her because I was in the middle of college and didnt want to tie myself down then. but she was a very nice lady and never gave me shit, very polite no drama. She was blaq.

both of those were the most recent and longest ive been with anyone by far.

Before that Ive had:
1. 1994: First "real" GF at 18, probably lasted 6 months and I got bored or what have you. I admit I could have been more into her for more than just sex however: Ran into her a couple years later and she told me she had multiple personalities complete with different names. She was american white
2. 1996: she was 19, lasted off and on maybe 2 years. We moved in pretty fast after meeting, she inexplicably started stripping right when we moved in. I peaced the fuck out and got her to take over the lease. Afterwards she had a habit of showing up at my place or at places I was at to give me shit for whatever I was doing. She would even get physical and push/shove and stuff thinking I was fucking around, we were not even a couple at that point. She was american white
3. 1998: she was 23, lasted almost a year. Very nice chick, and I genuinely made her happy and I was happy but one day I suddenly and inexplicably woke up one day, drove to her place and just broke up on the spot. Looking back I dont think I was worthy of such a relationship, or thought she would eventually drop me because I was sort of a loser back then. I really hurt her with that and shes the first one to make me wonder "what if". she was hispanic
4. 2001: She was 27, lasted about 9 months. I was with this chick pretty much for the awesome sex. She got laid off two weeks after meeting her from her hot shit motorola job and I dont think she ever recovered from it at the time. Or maybe she used that as an excuse, who knows. She was vindictive sometimes, passive-aggressive, suspicious as well. We moved in after 4 months and one day I came home from lunch to find all the prescription meds in the cabinet all over the counter and mostly empty. I went upstairs to find her laid out on the bed passed out. I called 911 and told them what she took and they immediately sent ambulance. At the hospital she admitted to the doctor this wasnt the first time at attempted suicide. Got mad at me, for getting mad at her, for pulling such bullshit when the only thing bad in her life was that she had a job that wasnt such cake as the one she had before the tech crash. I peaced the fuck out that week and told her to get help. she was american white
5. 2003: She was 24, lasted about 6 months. This one was the biggest question mark still to this day. We met, instantly get along and are really into each other, in love etc, she got me a hunting rifle for valentines day which was a shock. Things were great and one day we were out somewhere and in the parking lot in the care she said "have you ever thought of spinning a bottle and packing up your car to go wherever it pointed?" I didnt think much of it but 3 days later when we had plans to get together I couldnt get a hold of her. I tried for a few days to get a hold of her but couldnt. I never heard from her again in any way and kinda still wonder WTF happened today but if i were to guess it was some ex or something suddenly appearing again. she was american white

And of course there have been shitloads of women from early 1990's until now, not worth mentioning individually but I will say almost without fail the white american chicks have been way more bitchy, selfish, and high maintenance than any of the other nationalities/races Ive been with even on the most casual level. Taken as a whole, I have enough data points to statistically show that white american women just dont cut it compared to either american minorities or foreign women.
 
awww dave I was just messing w/ you... I'm sorry you've had these experiences with those women. It really does not bother me if you don't like American white women...everyone has their type..what they like and what they don't..
 
superdave said:
And of course there have been shitloads of women from early 1990's until now, not worth mentioning individually but I will say almost without fail the white american chicks have been way more bitchy, selfish, and high maintenance than any of the other nationalities/races Ive been with even on the most casual level. Taken as a whole, I have enough data points to statistically show that white american women just dont cut it compared to either american minorities or foreign women.
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False. In 2009 there were something like 230mil white people in the U.S. If we say half are women, then to say with a 95 something % degree of confidence that all white women were selfish and whatever else you said in relationships, you would've had to date around 400 white women. I'm pretty sure you dont have enough data points....Just sayin.

But if were going to do this, then I'll just say all my relationships with U.S. Racial minorities have also been better than those with white men. So I guess I can just say all white men suck in relationships too bc I've dated a few who happen to suck. Right?
 
AFeedz said:
False. In 2009 there were something like 230mil white people in the U.S. If we say half are women, then to say with a 95 something % degree of confidence that all white women were selfish and whatever else you said in relationships, you would've had to date around 400 white women. I'm pretty sure you dont have enough data points....Just sayin.

But if were going to do this, then I'll just say all my relationships with U.S. Racial minorities have also been better than those with white men. So I guess I can just say all white men suck in relationships too bc I've dated a few who happen to suck.
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Between myself and every guy Ive known that Ive seen or heard firsthand of their dating experiences, its probably around 400.
 
Yeah ok. Just sayin, my friends and I have dated plenty of white men too and I don't go around thinking all white men suck at life even though every single relationship I've been in with a white man has been worse than my other relationships. It's an idiotic generalization to think all white women are the same, and if were going to play this game I'm certain the other EF ladies and I can come up with just as many stories about why white men suck as you guys can women...but I doubt you'll agree after all of them that all white men suck in relationships too, so I see no point to these generalizations. People are different. Different upbringings, different people, different minds. We aren't all bitches just like you aren't all douchebags.
 
AFeedz said:
Yeah ok. Just sayin, my friends and I have dated plenty of white men too and I don't go around thinking all white men suck at life even though every single relationship I've been in with a white man has been worse than my other relationships. It's an idiotic generalization to think all white women are the same, and if were going to play this game I'm certain the other EF ladies and I can come up with just as many stories about why white men suck as you guys can women...but I doubt you'll agree after all of them that all white men suck in relationships too, so I see no point to these generalizations. People are different. Different upbringings, different people, different minds. We aren't all bitches just like you aren't all douchebags.
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Im making generalizations, and with all generalizations it doesnt include every last person in the world. People always say its bad to make generalizations, but they serve a purpose when backed up with the numbers. Im sure you could make a case against white men as well using certain parameters. But you dont see white women seeking out foreign men for LTR/marriage either. There is an entire industry dedicated to matching up american men with foreign women. American men have had it with american white women and now have the technology and means to seek better instead of taking it lying down like they have for 50 years.

But hey, Im sure you are a super duper awesome chick!
 
AFeedz said:
False. In 2009 there were something like 230mil white people in the U.S. If we say half are women, then to say with a 95 something % degree of confidence that all white women were selfish and whatever else you said in relationships, you would've had to date around 400 white women. I'm pretty sure you dont have enough data points....Just sayin.

But if were going to do this, then I'll just say all my relationships with U.S. Racial minorities have also been better than those with white men. So I guess I can just say all white men suck in relationships too bc I've dated a few who happen to suck. Right?
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lololol
 
So is the fact that American men are so desperate that they're willing to pay for mail order brides or what not really supposed to prove that white women are worse than white men in relationships? That's ridiculous. The fact that there's an industry for it says nothing about American women. Men search for women. Period. I haven't checked recently but I'm pretty sure men still outnumber women on dating websites and such and not just in America, either. So saying there's an entire industry around men in search of foreign women means nothing. Because there are more men using technology to search for women, it should not be surprising that industries for them to find women are more segmented than those for females. So I dont think that website says much more American women and I bet the majority of American men searching for women are on more general sites.

If an industry denotes problems that way, then does the fact that there are sites for women to find rich men or hot men prove that white men are generally broke, lazy slobs that we need to specifically search for someone who's not?
 
ive never had a problem with women they tend to be very honest with how they feel once you make them feel comfortable

the only time I ever did not like a chick, was that she was a Jock. she had no feminine sensibilities at all.

She was pretty good looking, and kissed "ok" so i tried for a week.
 
In all reality lets generalize this American men/Foriegn women talk. I highly doubt that guys only do this because they are fed up with their American counterpart. Im more apt to believe they do it because its typically a "fantasy" come true. I mean really. Things go through guys heads that only guys can relate to. The only difference now is technology has made it attainable to have that fantasyland situation and the only inputs needed are you and $$$.

I.E. a foreign sexy wife, who caters to your everymove and does exactly what shes told, GENERALIZATION lol. I play golf with 5 different doodz that all did his mail order bride type of thing. Guess what? All beautiful 9-10's, slaves pretty much, and its fuking pathetic and frankly pisses me off.
 
spektor-aaa said:
in all reality lets generalize this american men/foriegn women talk. I highly doubt that guys only do this because they are fed up with their american counterpart. Im more apt to believe they do it because its typically a "fantasy" come true. I mean really. Things go through guys heads that only guys can relate to. The only difference now is technology has made it attainable to have that fantasyland situation and the only inputs needed are you and $$$.

I.e. A foreign sexy wife, who caters to your everymove and does exactly what shes told, generalization lol. I play golf with 5 different doodz that all did his mail order bride type of thing. Guess what? All beautiful 9-10's, slaves pretty much, and its fuking pathetic and frankly pisses me off because i didn't do it myself.
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fyp!
 
you guys anal-ize too much ( both sexes heer in this thred....you have all made elaborate stories for yourselfs and what you expect)

I look for 1 thing when i am with a girl now and its a term i call "reciprocity"

I dont care if the girl is different then me, not my type , whatever.........so long as she can offer something good from within...and roll with your differences then you can have a great time.

its when both sexes prepackage their expectations of a mate or interactions thereof you get teh problemz.......and that has moar to do with the person with the problem vs that of the other


that is all
 
"The only difference now is technology has made it attainable to have that fantasyland situation."

i think technology allows you to get to know someone deeper from the get go. If both parties are honest, and willing you can leap frog into a real relationship when you meet
 
AFeedz said:
So is the fact that American men are so desperate that they're willing to pay for mail order brides or what not really supposed to prove that white women are worse than white men in relationships? That's ridiculous. The fact that there's an industry for it says nothing about American women. Men search for women. Period. I haven't checked recently but I'm pretty sure men still outnumber women on dating websites and such and not just in America, either. So saying there's an entire industry around men in search of foreign women means nothing. Because there are more men using technology to search for women, it should not be surprising that industries for them to find women are more segmented than those for females. So I dont think that website says much more American women and I bet the majority of American men searching for women are on more general sites.
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Fair enough but the trend is still increasing that men are seeking foreign women instead of keeping it in house. Its a fairly large hassle to go through the process of getting a foreign woman whether its through a dating site or going to the source in person. In a country such as America, with 300 million people, men should have no problem finding a white woman here to make them happy. But time and again we see thats not the case and many men are starting to see the value in expending the money and time seeking a foreign woman.

AFeedz said:
If an industry denotes problems that way, then does the fact that there are sites for women to find rich men or hot men prove that white men are generally broke, lazy slobs that we need to specifically search for someone who's not?
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Those women will still be getting rich *white* men, since thats the vast majority of men who are listed on those sites, and who have the wealth in this country in general so I dont know what that has to do with anything. Unless theres some sort of cottage industry catering to white women who want rich minorities that Im not aware of.

The point is with the influx of foreign women either off the boat or 2nd generation, and with technology making foreign women more accessible, white american women have since priced themselves out of the market. There is also the issue of foreign men not being as desirable as american men for various reasons. But economic principles of supply and demand still apply: an american man will get more for his time, energy, and money in general if he seeks a foreign or minority woman. Foreign women in general dont have the entitlement/princess attitude that white american women have been raised on for several generations. For better or worse, feminism has altered the dynamics between men and woman and blurred the lines of expectations in relationships. Obviously thats another thread on its own but compare divorce rates since 1960's, which not coincidentally, is the start of modern feminism.
 
SPEKTOR-AAA said:
In all reality lets generalize this American men/Foriegn women talk. I highly doubt that guys only do this because they are fed up with their American counterpart. Im more apt to believe they do it because its typically a "fantasy" come true. I mean really. Things go through guys heads that only guys can relate to. The only difference now is technology has made it attainable to have that fantasyland situation and the only inputs needed are you and $$$.

I.E. a foreign sexy wife, who caters to your everymove and does exactly what shes told, GENERALIZATION lol. I play golf with 5 different doodz that all did his mail order bride type of thing. Guess what? All beautiful 9-10's, slaves pretty much, and its fuking pathetic and frankly pisses me off.
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Sure thats taking it to the extreme and those guys may be taking advantage of those women. But you can bet your ass those dudes are happy in the end. I would rather have a foreign 9-10 that catered to my every whim than a 5-6 american woman who nagged my ass and made me give up my toys and withheld sex as punishment or otherwise. Is there really any debate there lol
 
superdave said:
Fair enough but the trend is still increasing that men are seeking foreign women instead of keeping it in house. Its a fairly large hassle to go through the process of getting a foreign woman whether its through a dating site or going to the source in person. In a country such as America, with 300 million people, men should have no problem finding a white woman here to make them happy. But time and again we see thats not the case and many men are starting to see the value in expending the money and time seeking a foreign woman.



Those women will still be getting rich *white* men, since thats the vast majority of men who are listed on those sites, and who have the wealth in this country in general so I dont know what that has to do with anything. Unless theres some sort of cottage industry catering to white women who want rich minorities that Im not aware of.

The point is with the influx of foreign women either off the boat or 2nd generation, and with technology making foreign women more accessible, white american women have since priced themselves out of the market. There is also the issue of foreign men not being as desirable as american men for various reasons. But economic principles of supply and demand still apply: an american man will get more for his time, energy, and money in general if he seeks a foreign or minority woman. Foreign women in general dont have the entitlement/princess attitude that white american women have been raised on for several generations. For better or worse, feminism has altered the dynamics between men and woman and blurred the lines of expectations in relationships. Obviously thats another thread on its own but compare divorce rates since 1960's, which not coincidentally, is the start of modern feminism.
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Soooo, is it time for makeup sex yet? Lol
 
superdave said:
The point is with the influx of foreign women either off the boat or 2nd generation, and with technology making foreign women more accessible, white american women have since priced themselves out of the market. There is also the issue of foreign men not being as desirable as american men for various reasons. But economic principles of supply and demand still apply: an american man will get more for his time, energy, and money in general if he seeks a foreign or minority woman. Foreign women in general dont have the entitlement/princess attitude that white american women have been raised on for several generations. For better or worse, feminism has altered the dynamics between men and woman and blurred the lines of expectations in relationships. Obviously thats another thread on its own but compare divorce rates since 1960's, which not coincidentally, is the start of modern feminism.
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Trump to American wimminz: "You're Fired!"
 
Hold up, I just found out Charlie Sheen's looking for a second goddess. Lemme see how that pans out first and I'll get back to you, SD
 
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