Listened to my Trainer (Am I screwed?)

[Ampsycho]

OK, just finished my 2nd cycle ever:
Age:39 Height: 5'10.5" Weight: 175lbs Body Fat: 7%
test Cyp: 500mg per week
Boldenone Undecylenate: 400mg per week
Anti-estrogen:
Anastrozole: 0.5mg every other day
Other: HCG 60 IU per week (To keep test production going)

My trainer was also the person who the guy who introduced me the gear and it's been great (added 10 lbs of muscle) but after reading the boards here and learning a lot more, I know I picked up his bad habits via misinformation (not his fault). OK here's the thing, he was sure that as long as he (and myself) were taking HCG you could continue a cycle indefinitely without stopping. (YES, I know how stupid that sounds NOW) Anyway I'm just finishing 24 weeks on the above (first cycle) with no side effects. I thought I'd be OK with the HCG and Anastrozole for PCT but the more I'm reading the more I'm beginning to worry. Question am I screwed without Clomid?

Like I said, I know how stupid this sounds now, but I need some assistance.
Thanks in advance.

 

[callmejay]

Since you're being guided by a professional, I'm sure you got bloodwork done prior to starting the cycle, correct?

It's not NECESSARILY the end of the world. You could be just fine. Stop running everything including the HCG.

Here's what I would do:
Buy forma-stanozol, clomid, post cycle, unleashed, daa

In 2.5 weeks, start clomid for the next 5 weeks @ 25mg daily, along with everything else above. You can start the forma sooner if your estrogen was high on cycle. I'd give the arimidex a break since you can have an estrogen rebound anyways.

Get bloodwork done in 6-7 weeks and see how you're doing.

Check out the Post Cycle stack from MrSupps.com, it combines a lot of what i listed above.

 

[Ampsycho]

Since you're being guided by a professional, I'm sure you got bloodwork done prior to starting the cycle, correct?

It's not NECESSARILY the end of the world. You could be just fine. Stop running everything including the HCG.

Here's what I would do:
Buy forma-stanozol, clomid, post cycle, unleashed, daa

In 2.5 weeks, start clomid for the next 5 weeks @ 25mg daily, along with everything else above. You can start the forma sooner if your estrogen was high on cycle. I'd give the arimidex a break since you can have an estrogen rebound anyways.

Get bloodwork done in 6-7 weeks and see how you're doing.

Check out the Post Cycle stack from MrSupps.com, it combines a lot of what i listed above.

Yeah, I had my blood work done prior, no worries. So I should stop the arimidex now, or wait till I start the rest?

 

[callmejay]

Yeah, I had my blood work done prior, no worries. So I should stop the arimidex now, or wait till I start the rest?

I would probably wait until the forma came but I am not sure if that's the best answer or not. I know estrogen rebound is possible with arimidex and you don't want that as you go into PCT.

Did 60iu/week of HCG prevent testicular atrophy for you? Most people use 500iu/week+, so I'm curious if it was still effective. If so, that's great!

If you have noticed significant atrophy it may be worth blasting it for a few days to get ready for PCT.

 

[joeblow12345]

2 weeks after last pin start this.

Pct 6 weeks
Clomid 25 mg day
Postcycle/ unleashed
Forma
Daa
Osta 25 mg

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[ransom555]

Can't start it without it being in stock! Unleashed and post cycle not in...

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[joeblow12345]

Can't start it without it being in stock! Unleashed and post cycle not in...

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You can still get clomid, daa, forma, osta, and I believe protein factory has postcycle instock. If you can get some proviron it works like unleashed. But dont run it more than a couple weeks.

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[gymrat827]

ahh take 100mg of clomid not 25 in the start. 25 should be what your taking in the last wk of the 4wk pct. all those other supps are great. but your going to need a high dosed serm in the start of pct. the osta mentioned above will be nice cuz your strength will keep up, it wont be the same as the tes but its not like natty.

i personally dont like taking too much clomid but i do when i have too. thats when all those supps are really needed, they still have positive effect while on clomid or the hcg but once they are gone is when they shine. clomid will have some sides, nothing bad tho

the day after you pin last:

500 hcg ED for 2wks while the cyp clears, stop taking hcg once clomid starts.
day 1-10 100 clomid 110-20 50, 21-30 25
day 1-30 daa/forma/hcgenerate - (instead of post cycle/unleashed)

osta 1-40, if you want.

dont fuk with dex in pct, not a predictable AI. forma bro.


GL

 

[joeblow12345]

ahh take 100mg of clomid not 25 in the start. 25 should be what your taking in the last wk of the 4wk pct. all those other supps are great. but your going to need a high dosed serm in the start of pct. the osta mentioned above will be nice cuz your strength will keep up, it wont be the same as the tes but its not like natty.

i personally dont like taking too much clomid but i do when i have too. thats when all those supps are really needed, they still have positive effect while on clomid or the hcg but once they are gone is when they shine. clomid will have some sides, nothing bad tho

the day after you pin last:

500 hcg ED for 2wks while the cyp clears, stop taking hcg once clomid starts.
day 1-10 100 clomid 110-20 50, 21-30 25
day 1-30 daa/forma/hcgenerate - (instead of post cycle/unleashed)

osta 1-40, if you want.

dont fuk with dex in pct, not a predictable AI. forma bro.


GL

I wouldnt ever use 100 mg clomid unless you enjoy being overly emotional. 25 mg is more than enough to do the job. And the sides are almost non-existent. I also wouldnt leave out the postcycle and unleashed. I agree with daa, and forma, but use hcgen oncycle.

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[auslifter90]

60iu hcg???? per week? you mean 600iu, right?