lets get er goin!!! - serious replies please

[Dieselicious]

Alright people here we go again.. here is what I have planned. Please critique and let me know what you think.

30 yrs old, 5.11 225 - 30" waist

Weeks 1 – 5

Deca 600 per week
Sustanon 500 per week
D-bol 20 mg’s per day

Weeks 5 – 10

Equipoise 500 per week
Anavar 60 mgs per day
Deca 600 per week

Weeks 10 – 15

Equipoise 500 per week
Sustanon 500 per week
Trenbolone 75 eod

 

[Dieselicious]

first cycle like this, was recomended by a guy who competes. sounds good to me - at any rate its on hand - so im running it regardless

 

[sweed]

first cycle, just test. why waste other AS when you will get basically the same results. 500 test/ sust per week. I was 225 for my first and did that(test e) and dbol and gained 20+ lbs.
guys that compete have much more experience and that prob works for him well. eq, deca and var too much for first. save it imo.

 

[Dieselicious]

sorry man. not my first cycle, probably like 5th. i meant just my first cycle changes stages every 5 weeks. this is different for me.

i usually would do like one get big cycle in the winter and one to rip up for the summer.

this cycle is set to blow me up a little in the front then lean me back down

 

[sweed]

ok too experienced for me, I'm a newb and can only help 1st cyclers since that is where I am! haha
Some vets will chime in soon I'm sure!

 

[sensational]

Alright people here we go again.. here is what I have planned. Please critique and let me know what you think.

30 yrs old, 5.11 225 - 30" waist

Weeks 1 – 5

Deca 600 per week
Sustanon 500 per week
D-bol 20 mg’s per day

Weeks 5 – 10

Equipoise 500 per week
Anavar 60 mgs per day
Deca 600 per week

Weeks 10 – 15

Equipoise 500 per week
Sustanon 500 per week
Trenbolone 75 eod

Deca higher than test? (Weeks 1-5)

Deca with no test? (6-10)

Is your libido important to you? If so keep the test higher than the deca.

If you want to switch around compounds like that, use shorter acting esters. Get NPP, Probably run EQ all 15 weeks as the undecylenate ester takes a long time to build to peak blood levels.

Weeks 10-12 you might run into sides with 2 nandrolone derivatives being in your system at the same time. I would look into cabergoline.

Is gyno ever an issue for you?

Please explain your reasoning for this cycle.

 

[Dieselicious]

well i had something else in mind - and my guy said for the money this would work better.

last summer was my last i just ran EQ / Sust for 15 weeks. i ended up real ripped but a little to skiney in my book.

he said with this i would come in just as ripped with a little more size, if i end up 235 cut for supper im a happy man. dont the diff compounds attach to different sites.

your worrying me a lil, but the above is what i have now.. dont want to take away anything but will add to it if i must. i will look into the Gaber and NPP

 

[azul]

Why make it so complicated, and why only run test at the beginning and the end? That makes absolutely no sense. Just choose 2-3 compounds and do it instead of trying to figure out exotic combinations.

 

[sensational]

well i had something else in mind - and my guy said for the money this would work better.

last summer was my last i just ran EQ / Sust for 15 weeks. i ended up real ripped but a little to skiney in my book.

he said with this i would come in just as ripped with a little more size, if i end up 235 cut for supper im a happy man. dont the diff compounds attach to different sites.

your worrying me a lil, but the above is what i have now.. dont want to take away anything but will add to it if i must. i will look into the Gaber and NPP

Sadly, just because somebody looks great doesn't mean they have all their bases covered. Here at EF, we take a holistic approach, where our goal is to minimize side effects and maximize gains while feeling the best we can and being healthy.

If this is what you have, let me suggest a different cycle format for you, and give you the reasoning.

Save the trenbolone for a future cycle. And you will have extra deca left over.

Weeks 1-5
Sust: 500mg Per week
Deca:400mg Per week
D-bol: 20mg per day
Weeks: 6-8
Everything the same minus the D-bol
Week: 9
Sust: 500mg per week
Deca: 400mg Per week
Anavar: 50mg Per day
Weeks: 10-12: get a bit more sust or some other test
Sust/test: 500mg Per week
Anavar: 50mg ED
Week 13-14:
Only Anavar 50mg ED. This allows for the decanoate ester in the sust to clear while you are still on AAS.
Weeks 15-whatever: Your PCT (Yes, do it, and tell us what it is)

If you are sensitive to gyno, always have arimidex on hand. You should be ok in the realm of sexual side effects with your test dose higher than the deca. But if you are worried, get some cabergoline.

The cycle your friend outlined for you, would probably have you feeling rather impotent around week 6, maybe unable to get it up. You could get nandrolone mediated gyno pretty easily in his cycle, and you don't have any AI listed. Those are my issues.

Remember order of importance!
Health > Minimize side effects > Maximize gains

 

[bigtravis]

not really understanding the ratio there. but i would up the test and run the deca and eq together they have great synergy together. good luck

 

[the_alcatraz]

1- this is waaaaay too much for a first cycle?
2- add the test during weeks 5-10 as equipose and decca together will kill ur dick
3- a 15 week cycle with decca, var, test, equipose and tren?!?! not a good first cycle

hit up test alone at 500mgs for 12 weeks with a good PCT. You will make good gains on that alone.

 

[cuts82]

I think he said its his 5th run,
but still i cant figure out the logic of cuttin out test weeks 6-10 and only running deca and eq?? why

 

[RADAR]

Deca & EQ running both those compounds together the Bloat will over ride the vascularity you get off of eq.

RADAR

 

[bigtravis]

I would actually like to know who recomended that for you. Stay here and research. youll not go wrong. ive ran deca and eq together and had great result but i was at a real high test level. but i wasnt your average user.

 

[Strongbow]

Alright people here we go again.. here is what I have planned. Please critique and let me know what you think.

30 yrs old, 5.11 225 - 30" waist

Weeks 1 – 5

Deca 600 per week
Sustanon 500 per week
D-bol 20 mg’s per day

Weeks 5 – 10

Equipoise 500 per week
Anavar 60 mgs per day
Deca 600 per week

Weeks 10 – 15

Equipoise 500 per week
Sustanon 500 per week
Trenbolone 75 eod

I just run 600 mgs of test with 300mgs of Deca. The 300mgs of Deca killed my dick to the point that 600mgs of test was just enough to keep my sex drive about normal or slightly below. Stopped Deca in Wk 8 and today is my last inject of test. Sex drive has been outrageous for the last two weeks and I run the test for 16 wks. Deca will kill your Dick, I would definatley rethink running more deca than test.

 

[EZ_E]

first cycle like this, was recomended by a guy who competes. sounds good to me - at any rate its on hand - so im running it regardless

Then what are you looking for from this post?

 

[Dieselicious]

Then what are you looking for from this post?

Like i said earlier. its good to see what people said. i am not thinking of lessoning the cycle at this point. but you guys got me thinking of upping the sust to 750 per week 1 - 15.

many of the comments are fear of my libido deteriarating which would suck (temporarily) - I will have something on hand (cialis) regardless.

 

[Strongbow]

Then what are you looking for from this post?

You know they say a hard head makes a soft ass, but in this case it will be a soft dick. LOL

 

[Dieselicious]

Arimidex or Letro

which better on hand with this......

 

[Dieselicious]

You know they say a hard head makes a soft ass, but in this case it will be a soft dick. LOL

what effects do you think the D-bol and the var would have against the Deca..

i used deca many moons ago and didnt have probs like this - but then again - there is a diff between being in the 20's and the 30's better safe then sorry...

all and all any probs with the mcdoogen would be temp - not perm. and during weeks 10 - 15 with the tren / sust and eq it shoudl bounce back to norm if not better.

 

[Strongbow]

what effects do you think the D-bol and the var would have against the Deca..

i used deca many moons ago and didnt have probs like this - but then again - there is a diff between being in the 20's and the 30's better safe then sorry...

all and all any probs with the mcdoogen would be temp - not perm. and during weeks 10 - 15 with the tren / sust and eq it shoudl bounce back to norm if not better.

Dude I can only speak from my experience, I've heard dudes say they have run Deca only cycles and been pornstars for ten weeks on the stuff, and everyone of them were mid to early twenties. I know that the Deca knocked mine in the dirt for about 12 weeks with 600mgs of test, I would never dare try it alone or with anything but double the test to counter act it. By what effects would d-bol and var have against the deca, do you mean using dbol and var in place of the deca?