Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Sup y'all. I am fairly new to these forums and I thought I would share my experience real time for all those who are thinking of trying letting and prami to kill old gyno. Got gyno from test and deca cycles from a long time ago (5 yrs roughly) and no pct. Yes I know that is incredibly stupid, but at the time I didn't know any better. And apparently my source at the time either didn't know either or didn't bother to tell me. Either way, this is a test run for all those who are thinking about running these two together. I will include all details, siide effects, progress, and the like. Feel free to ask any questions and hopefully of it works for me it will work for you too. I know people will say "dude its been too long, you need surgery" . My response to that is well, we will see. If this works I won't and if it doesn't I will. This is needto's protocol for me and all I can say is that he has been on point and quick to respond and help with all my questions. So it looks like this, I will be running letro at 1.25mg to start, and prami at .25mg and then progress from there. Also taking Hcgenerate 3 caps am and 2 caps pm. And forged joint aid. I will update daily with everything that I am experiencing.
Letro + Prami Log
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So, I am 2 days in. 1st day of prami
25. made me a little more tired than normal.
Took it right before bed. I upped the letro to 1.25 am and 1.25 pm.
No side effects to speak of yet. It's very early yet I know. Sensitivity is down a lot
No change in shape yet. That's about it for now .
25. made me a little more tired than normal.
Took it right before bed. I upped the letro to 1.25 am and 1.25 pm.
No side effects to speak of yet. It's very early yet I know. Sensitivity is down a lot
No change in shape yet. That's about it for now .
Alright a little update for you guys. So after feeling great on 1.25 of letro and .25 pram, I decided to up the letro to 2.5 for past 2 days. Not sure if its the letro or the chicken wings I had for cheat meal last night, but I feel like a fossiilized dog turd this morning. Little nauseas this morning, the good news though is my right nip has been semi tender for a long time and its no longer tender at all. I definately feel like the not so lovely lady lumps are softening too. Not even a week in and I can tell a difference, hard to complain about that.
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Hey mayne, I'm 2 weeks in on both as well, 1.25 letro .5 prami. I'm seeing some results, I suppose around 25% of the results I'm hoping for. Good luck, .5mg of prami makes me TIRED as fuark.
Also, since jigga14 mentioned a SERM, I'm thinking about doing a month of ralox in a couple of weeks at the end of the letro/prami.. Has anyone used it for gyno reduction, or have any suggestions of ralox vs torem? Would rather not use nolva.
Anyway, good luck OP. Hopefully prami won't kick your ass like it's doing to me.
Also, since jigga14 mentioned a SERM, I'm thinking about doing a month of ralox in a couple of weeks at the end of the letro/prami.. Has anyone used it for gyno reduction, or have any suggestions of ralox vs torem? Would rather not use nolva.
Anyway, good luck OP. Hopefully prami won't kick your ass like it's doing to me.
Yeah I am thinking about running torem with this. Nyjuiceman (I think that's right) has suggested this to run for 3 months (1.25 letro .5 pram and torem) for 3 months before giving up on it. I'm going to ask needto about it ( I am on his protocol). I backed off from 2.5 letro to 2.0 ( 1mg morn and 1mg night) and nausea is non existent today thank god. Yeah apparently jigga had success with that cocktail
Follow needto if that is the program you are on, NYJuiceman does recommend Torem at 50mg ED is what he recommends for his program, but stick with needto's protocol first since he has taken the time to help you.
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Most definitely, he has def took care of me to this point, and its much appreciated.
Alright, so I have been running this combo for 1 week. I'm running 2.0mg letro and .35 prami now (both fr chemicalneed). I didn't think I would see any results until the letro totally built up in my system, but I have already seen some changes. Shrinking of lump, softening, and sensitivity is no existent. I took .35 peak last night and it obliterated me. And was kinda groggy this mornin.g, bit nothing a cup of coffee won't fix. My joints are a little dry, but that's about it for sides.
Ok so quick update. I have been at 2mg letro and .4mg prami for a few days now, sleep is great, little groggy in the am but nothing crazy. At times I do feel somewhat lethargic, but the hcgenerate def helps with that. Joints have been drier than normal, but nothing intolerable. No crazy decrease in sex drive, if my wife gets frisky its on. I HAVE been hungry like crazy though. I have actually gained a couple pounds since the start, but o am starting to look a lot leaner and more vascular. Both nips are less puffy and the mass behind my right is def shrinking and flattening out. My left is shrinking too. As far as the sides go, as long as u run something to mitigate them u will be fine. I was hesitant to run this bc I had heard horror stories about letro....maybe they weren't running anything to counter the sides. But NEEDTO suggested that I run hcgenerate and forged joint aid. I I were not running those two, I think it would Be hitting me pretty hard. Have noticed a little less intensity in the gym but you can work ur way thru that, most of that is in ur head anyway. So far I'm feeling pretty good and very satisfied with the results I am seeing.
Yeah that's funny you say that, I thought it was the letro. Nothing a tum won't fix
Don't know sir, its worth a shot. I wouldn't just him right in though, I would private message NEEDTO and see what he would recommend based on a number of factors. He is a real good guy, always willing to help and has walked a bunch of dudes thru this program. U should just pm him and see what he says!
Quick update. Pretty lethargic the last few days, I imagine the letro is built up in my system. Still at 2mg letro and worked up to 40 mg prami. Sleep like a baby. Sex drive could be better but man is it worth it. Beginning to see some massive progress. Usually when I first get out of bed the puffiness is pretty.noticeable, but the last few days my chest looks much tighter and I am also leaning out quite a bit. Joints are a little dry, but I'm not going to cry about it bc this stuff is working. I definately don't feel like running any marathons but its well worth it to me. I have been fighting these little titties for years and thought surgery would be the only answer. If things keep progressing this way I would say a couple weeks and I will b.good to go. Even if they would shrink an additional 50% that would be superb. I would say overall the lumps are 40% smaller than b4 and the puffiness is down considerably. Hope this helps
Alright everyone, quick update. Sex drive is kinda in the tank, but I can live with it. Mood has been a little dumpy lately, but it is 100% worth it. My chest looks better than it has in I cant tell you how long. Workouts havesuffered a little bit but I dont care at this point, what matters to me is that my chest looks pretty good now. I havent been able to say that for years. Keep in mind this is ooooooold gyno. I thought I was just screwed and would have to have surgery, nope. My shirts look much better now. My wife has even began to comment on the change, and she hasnt exactly been thrilled abiut this process. Still I think I will continue in this regiminefo a couple more weeks and then begin to taper off. Another success story with letro and pram it looks like.
U better check with someone that has exp. with this. I recommend needto, as would most everyone else here.
Alright guys so I reply haven't updated in a while but my results have been amazing. I look way better in shirts and I would say that this combo has shrunk about 80% of what I was dealing with. I have now started to cycle off of this protocol and continue with forma for the next few weeks. I am down to .75 mg letro and .35 pram I will continue to slowly taper off . If anyone has been thinking about trying this, give it a shot. You have nothing to lose and a lot to gain. Just be sure to inform your wife that u will not be interested for a little while, as my sex drive is not that great. If attacked its doable, but u probably won't be the aggressor lol. You will be a little lethargic especially at higher dosesbut it has been totally worth it for me. I will continue to update once a week from now on. Give NEEDTO a shout man, super easy to work with.
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