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thats why im skeptical about using it with my test/tren cycle. i think im going to use aromasin instead. just a small lump under left nipple. but if you have really bad gyno, only letro or surgery will cure it.
Ox-Sandra-Loan
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For me the sore joints were terrible, I couldn't even work out. I finally said screw it, and I'll just save up for surgery. It just about winter anyways, I can cover my moobs with heavy sweatshirts.
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aquatic_glories
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aromasin
sharkmaster
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I wounder if you could use proviron to prevent or at least lessen the libido crash? Proviron could only help with the gyno too!
Aromasin is the same as letro, not as strong, but very effective. letro is what they call the suicide ai because it will kill off all estrogen and thats not exactly good because everyone needs estrogen, just too much of it is bad. arimidex, imo, is crap, its so weak and doesnt do much or even at all. get some aromasin(exemestane is the actual ingriedinet, aromasin is a brand)
Out of the 3, arimidex is the weakest. some people prefer it i guess cuz it doesnt kill off too much estrogen. but it didnt do shit for my 500mg ew test e cycle when i had lumps under my nips and i was up to 1mg per day.
dark-knight
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i started my tren a, test e cycle two weeks ago. two days after starting i noticed a small lump under my left nip that was sore to touch. istarted using liquid letro at 1.25mg ed and caber at .25mg eod (there was no noticeable difference in the lump after three days and i literally felt like death. all i wanted to do was fight or fuck there was no median. i then i am using letro atm moment at 2.5mg ed + .5mg caber which has taken away most of the soreness and reduced the size a little. i feel much better now that i upped the dose of caber.
i have noticed that around 2pm i feel a little scattered, i am putting this down to the caber waring off
i have used letro by itself before and it fucked me up for a couple of months. i wolud prefer to sacrifice some gains on cycle and cure this gyno than coming off and curing it but losing gains then
i have noticed that around 2pm i feel a little scattered, i am putting this down to the caber waring off
i have used letro by itself before and it fucked me up for a couple of months. i wolud prefer to sacrifice some gains on cycle and cure this gyno than coming off and curing it but losing gains then
You dont need to use the cabaser unless youre lactating or getting progesterone sides. the letro at .5mg ed ahould take care of the lump. but your libido will be shot so maybe the cabaser/dostinex is a good idea to keep our wife/gf happy
dark-knight
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im not being a smartarse, only sharing my experience. the gyno flared around day three of my cycle. i'm no expert but i think that would be too soon to have estro related gyno (i could be wrong) i was surprised at seeing immediate sides as im running 500mg test e/week and 75mg tren a eod.
it may be a coincidence that i didn't have any reduction in lump size and pain until i raised my caber dose to .5mged and letro to 2.5mged.
it could have been existing gyno from a previouse cycle, i don't know. i'l see how things work out in a week and if the lumps gone il switch over to aromasin
AND yeah! the caber does wonders for combatting the sides from the letro. i think i've found an ancillary that i actually look forward to taking
njmuscleguy
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You should check your information before dispensing it bro...
Letrozole and anastrozole (adex) are NOT suicide inhibitors... they both bind reversibly to the aromatase enzyme which prevents androgens from being converted to estrogen.
Exemestane (aromasin), *is* a suicidal aromatase inhibitor - it binds permanently to the aromtase enzyme, thus preventing aromatization (estrogen formation).
Finally, "suicidal inhibitor" doesn't mean that it kills off all estrogen, even though letro does reduce estrogen by up to 98%. SI means that it binds with the aromatase enzyme in permanent, irreversible manner.
Letrozole and anastrozole (adex) are NOT suicide inhibitors... they both bind reversibly to the aromatase enzyme which prevents androgens from being converted to estrogen.
Exemestane (aromasin), *is* a suicidal aromatase inhibitor - it binds permanently to the aromtase enzyme, thus preventing aromatization (estrogen formation).
Finally, "suicidal inhibitor" doesn't mean that it kills off all estrogen, even though letro does reduce estrogen by up to 98%. SI means that it binds with the aromatase enzyme in permanent, irreversible manner.
I would use proviron - it's a DHT derivative, very close to masteron (oral masteron)
Look into arimidex also....better than letro
That being said, letro is still much better than nolvadex....the latter is pretty much WEAK
Look into arimidex also....better than letro
That being said, letro is still much better than nolvadex....the latter is pretty much WEAK
how long did it take
letro makes my joints ache, no libdo and I catch every cold, flu and bug going around. I will never use it again. I prefer Anastrozole over Exemestane simply because it seems to work at a very low dose for me and I can get it prescribed.
This generic form of Aromasin actually works well for you?
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ALIN
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Those are the most common. they can be reduced with less dosage.
but less dosage means not reducing the gyno....
it was like instant, pain gone within a day and within a week the lumps had gone from hard balls the size of a large marble to soft spongy tissue amd within 20 days. gone.
gstacker
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my strength took a serious dive with letro and hated this the most out of the sides, my joints did feel a lil dry but was tolorable,my libido was lower than normal but functionable....in the end no puffiness no lumps...id do it again in a heartbeat if i had to...when adex doesnt work or its past that then imo run letro...
as far as the dostinex goes as mentioned above id run that right from the start even without symptoms, why on earth would you want to wait till your lactaing?
as far as the dostinex goes as mentioned above id run that right from the start even without symptoms, why on earth would you want to wait till your lactaing?
how long did it take to bounce back with strength/sex drive after stopping the letro
thats easily the biggest bargain of all time if it gets rid of already existing gyno.
Actually technically im not on letro by itself as ive been taking Cyp 100mg/wk for 7 weeks now HRT
dark-knight
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i have to say that i definately prefer to take letro on cycle than off, at least you still have the world beating test feeling to get you through the shitty mood and joint dryness.
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