Letro and Test - Is it even worth it?

[Iron man]

Femera - letrozole - and Test - Is it even worth it?

Ive come to the conclusion I am extremely gynecomastia prone. Last cycle, while running 600mg of Test and 1mg Arimidex EOD I still had some gynecomastia flare up.

My question is, would it be completely pointless to run test with Femera - letrozole - ? Considering estrogen plays a part in building muscle, would I even gain anything with little to no estrogen?

Are you sure the arimidex is any good? Or dose what it said it was. I am also very prone to gyno amdex helps me. Letrozole is very stong and I would dose it by drops. It killed my sex drive even when I was running 400mg of test a week.

 

[Cryptlord]

Are you sure the arimidex is any good? Or dose what it said it was. I am also very prone to gynecomastia amdex helps me. Letrozole is very stong and I would dose it by drops. It killed my sex drive even when I was running 400mg of test a week.

I was thinking the same thing. It was a research chemical from IBE. Anyways, who knows. Definately not using them again though.

 

[eddymerckx]

mava or samoth had an article here someplace about using armidex or letr.o with nolavadex for max effect--see i can find it

 

[Cryptlord]

mava or samoth had an article here someplace about using armidex or letr.o with nolavadex for max effect--see i can find it

Please do...

 

[10001110101]

nolva is definitely preferred first line therapy for gyno.

only if nolva fails you at 40mg/day should you start on letro.

nolva actually keeps cholesterol in check, less sides, all good except mild liver toxicity which you get from letro anyways so.

 

[thebadguy54]

mava or samoth had an article here someplace about using armidex or letr.o with nolavadex for max effect--see i can find it

Please link me to that thread if you can find it.

 

[enacer420nj]

I was thinking the same thing. It was a research chemical from IBE. Anyways, who knows. Definately not using them again though.

IBE is fucking GARBAGE...I also used their arimidex on a cycle and 1mg ED wasnt enough had to bump to 2...fuck that pos company

 

[nydj66]

IBE is fucking GARBAGE...I also used their arimidex on a cycle and 1mg ED wasnt enough had to bump to 2...fuck that pos company

Does IBE even exist anymore? I thought they changed their name to innovative research.

 

[Cryptlord]

Does IBE even exist anymore? I thought they changed their name to innovative research.

Yea that is what I am talking about. They are the same I thought.

 

[Mavafanculo]

eddy/badguy/crypt-

I did a qik search and it didnt come up, I'll look again when I'm back, but the gist was that Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - and AROMASIN are complementry/synergistic in that you're attacking the problem from 2 directions:

a) the selective estrogen receptor modulator Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - will compete for binding at the estrogen receptors in breast tissue, and

b) the aromatase inhibitor aromasin will reduce circulating E levels by blocking the conversion of T to E

the reason aromasin is preferred when using this 2-front approach is that Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - reduced the effectiveness of Arimidex - anastrozole - and Femera - letrozole - by some huge percentage (dont recall the specific number offhand), but does not reduce the effectiveness of aromasin.

the preferred protocol is to start with Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - assuming a cycle that includes aromatizables and no nandrolones.

if you start to get the warning signs of gynecomastia, add the aromasin.

If the symptoms continue, you have to go to the big gun Femera - letrozole - which can almost completely eliminate circulating estrogen. you would taper off the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - /aromasin while inceasing the Femera - letrozole - .

this would be considered an emergency shortterm fix since its not healthy (mentally/physically/sexually) or condusive to gains to go with ultra-low E for any length of time