Lean cycle

[VRuler]

So, I'm about to start my second cycle. The idea is to do a 'lean cycle', pack some muscle with as little fat as possible.

My stats are:
25
5'9'
172punds
15% bf

I got test e and anavar so far.

1-12 300 mg test e / w
1-12 400 mg primobolan /w
1-8 50 mg anavar ed
1-12 arimidex 0.5mg eod
1-12 hcg 250iu EOD

13-15 clomid 25/25/25/25
13-15 unleashed/post cycle combo
13-15 forma stanzol

 

[-SD-]

So what were your stats right before your first cycle and what did you gain from that cycle?

 

[NegroPops]

You will be a lot more pleased with your "lean bulk" if you got your body fat down a bit before starting.

 

[Idobehigh]

Especially if you run primo at a lower body fat

 

[EZ_E]

you will be a lot more pleased with your "lean bulk" if you got your body fat down a bit before starting.

+1

 

[kuda']

keep protein sky high 4-6 meals and cardio 30min 5 days a week!!!!

 

[RickRock13]

I would run HCGenerate and N2guard on cycle. You also don't want to run HCG the whole cycle. Only use it as a kickstart to your PCT.

 

[VRuler]

@-SD-
On my first cycle I gained 24 punds and I kept 16 after pct.

@NegroPops
I'm not going to start the cycle yet. I want to know what the best method is. I will diet a month or so before starting it.

@kuda'
My died is very strict, I count my calories, my nutrients ratio and I cycle my carbs.

@RickRock13
So, should I use it in weeks 9-12?

 

[-SD-]

Sounds like you dived into drugs too soon if you were 5'9" and only 156 when you started. You should have easily been 185 before any drugs.

 

[RickRock13]

@-SD-
On my first cycle I gained 24 punds and I kept 16 after pct.

@NegroPops
I'm not going to start the cycle yet. I want to know what the best method is. I will diet a month or so before starting it.

@kuda'
My died is very strict, I count my calories, my nutrients ratio and I cycle my carbs.

@RickRock13
So, should I use it in weeks 9-12?

Your pct should not start until 2 weeks after your last injection of long esters. During those two weeks is when you would run the HCG as a kickstart to PCT

 

[RickRock13]

Sounds like you dived into drugs too soon if you were 5'9" and only 156 when you started. You should have easily been 185 before any drugs.

Not necessarily true. Weight doesnt matter, but body composition does. I'm 5'9" and I'm just now 185 @ 6%

A ripped 160 is probably more ready than a fat 185. Guys want to say they are ready just because they are 200 lbs. So fucking what. My grandma is 225. What's their point?

 

[dylangemelli]

So, I'm about to start my second cycle. The idea is to do a 'lean cycle', pack some muscle with as little fat as possible.

My stats are:
25
5'9'
172punds
15% bf

I got test e and anavar so far.

1-12 300 mg test e / w
1-12 400 mg primobolan /w
1-8 50 mg anavar ed
1-12 arimidex 0.5mg eod
1-12 hcg 250iu EOD

13-15 clomid 25/25/25/25
13-15 unleashed/post cycle combo
13-15 forma stanzol

As others have said, get your body fat down and let primo shine bro... I would run primo at 600 mg week... You will get so much more out of it if you are in better conition... It is so great but you need to let it shine... I would run it 14 weeks... You should definitely not be running hcg like that... run hcgenerate ES week 5-12... then you can blast hcg at 1000 ius week for 2 weeks... You MUST run n2guard along with your orals... This could be an excellent cycle but you need to fix it as well as your diet and then watch the results come in!

 

[VRuler]

Just to be clear, I won't be starting this cycle until I lower my bf as much as possible so here is the 'updated' version:

1-12 300 mg test e / w
1-12 600 mg primobolan /w
1-8 50 mg anavar ED
1-12 arimidex 0.5mg eod
5-12 HCGenerate ES week
12-14 HCG 250iu EOD

14-16 clomid 25/25/25/25
14-16 Unleashed post cycle combo
14-16 forma stanzol

 

[dylangemelli]

Just to be clear, I won't be starting this cycle until I lower my bf as much as possible so here is the 'updated' version:

1-12 300 mg test e / w
1-12 600 mg primobolan /w
1-8 50 mg anavar ED
1-12 arimidex 0.5mg eod
5-12 HCGenerate ES week
12-14 HCG 250iu EOD

14-16 clomid 25/25/25/25
14-16 Unleashed post cycle combo
14-16 forma stanzol

this still needs fixed... hcg is 1000 ius a week... its only two shots a week...

pct needs to be AT LEAST four weeks... so 14-17... bro, you should not run anavar without n2guard... that would be a very big mistake as well...

 

[VRuler]

Sorrry, my mistakes. It's 4 weeks, I don't know why I wrote 14-16, I mean clomid was already mentioned as 25/25/25/25.

1-12 300 mg test e / w
1-12 600 mg primobolan /w
1-8 50 mg anavar ED
1-8 n2guard
1-12 arimidex 0.5mg eod
5-12 HCGenerate ES week
12-14 HCG 1000iu week

14-17 clomid 25/25/25/25
14-17 Unleashed post cycle combo
14-17 forma stanzol

 

[NegroPops]

I'd raise your HCG does a bit.. at least 500 iu eod, and then the last week 1000 iu ED for the first 4 days, and then stop.. so there is a few days between the HCG and Clomid.

I would put some D-AA in your PCT.. it's inexpensive and one of the top test boosters there is. 3g in the morning, or pre-workout.

 

[dylangemelli]

Theres absolutely no need to exceed 1000 ius a week of hcg... Thats the right blast dose before pct... If HCG is used for too long and in too high a dose, the resulting rise in natural testosterone will eventually inhibit its own production via negative feedback on the hypothalamus and pituitary gland.