*Last advice needed before starting 1st cycle

[Stallbro]

Recap of stats and goals:
30yrs old; 6ft; 175lbs; 10%bf; Solid training history. I spent the last three months trimming down 10lbs and 3%bf. My goal is to break my strength plateaus, gain 5-8lbs of solid muscle and drop my bf 1-2%. My diet is in check at 2800 clean high protein cals.

Proposed cycle:
Test E 200mg 1-10wks
Var 75mg 1-6wks
Aromasin 20mg EOD
HCG 500iu EW
PCT: Derma Sustain 11-14wks(Clomid on hand if needed)

I know the Test E is on the light side but I want a side-free, bloat-free cycle for the summer.

Any advice or tweaks are appreciated!

 

[drdug27]

i realy like that cycle for a first...good luck

 

[xrsist]

looks alright bro. maybe 250mg of test, that was my first test dose with no bloat or sides and excellent results. im guessing the var is 75mg ED?

 

[Stallbro]

Yes, 75mg Var ED. I'm taking it 25mg three times a day at regular intervals. Is 20mg Aromasin EOD enough? It's ProForm, which comes in 20mg caps. Also, is the hcg 500iu EW overkill?

 

[drdug27]

Yes, 75mg Var ED. I'm taking it 25mg three times a day at regular intervals. Is 20mg Aromasin EOD enough? It's ProForm, which comes in 20mg caps. Also, is the hcg 500iu EW overkill?

the arom should be fine youre only running 200(depending on you you might not actualy need it)

personaly i just do HCG at the end, still havent done it durring cycle.

 

[navigatorrs]

I would bump the test e up to 250mg. This worked great for my first cycle and i had little to no bloat.

 

[kaisersose]

Agree, bump the test to 250.

 

[OMEGA]

NOT good sorry


at LEAST 400 mgs of Test a week and it should be one shot on Mon and One on Thurs for Stabel Blood levels and Results.

Further, 20 mgs of Aromasin is way to much for only 200 mgs maybe even 400 mgsof Test is thats what you will use

also 75 mgs of Var whie "sexy" is too much you need only 50 on top of the 400 of Test.

if you use 50 mgs of Var + 400 mgs of Test, you will only need Adex as an AI

Also co-injest with Creatine of some kind since Anavar Profoundly amplifies uptake of Creatine storage and utilization as well as endogenous formation

 

[Stallbro]

Thanks, Omega. I started my cycle Wednesday at 250mg. I was planning on bumping the Test to 300mg e5d. I never understood the tuesday Thursday shoot principal. Isn't that effectively doubling the dosage each week?

I hear you on the Var but I really want to notice the effects of the Var (tight, lean, hard) rather than the bloat/weight gain from the Test.

Regarding the Aromasin, I really just prefer Aromasin to Adex from research. I'm going to use it as needed.

 

[Nelson Montana]

And just to confuse you further...

I think it's too long, (test your ability to recover, don't push it to the limit first time out)

too much var, (that's hard on the liver and muder on your lipids)

too much HCG, (unnecessary and may sensitize you for the next time out)

too much aromasan. (will kill gains, hurt libido and affect LDL)

You can bump the T to 250 but it's not like it's a magic number.

 

[Stallbro]

So I should do 8 weeks? Also, I haven't started Aromasin or HCG yet. How should I schedule the HCG, then? I like the idea of doing it during cycle. Perhaps I'll use AIFM I have instead of the Aromasin

 

[BIG onion]

bin workin owt naturally for the past few yrs, am 24,5ft 8' ,14st
am startin my first cycle in a few days:-
300 5ml dianabol
10ml test 200
220mg tamoxifen (at hand)
milk thistle
a have quite a gud frame with a bit of body fat on the stomach area. is my cycle going to make this worse?
i no dieting is the main key just dnt want to loose too many gains,is there anything owt there that a can take?

is there anybody owt there that can help?????

 

[ScMc]

bin workin owt naturally for the past few yrs, am 24,5ft 8' ,14st
am startin my first cycle in a few days:-
300 5ml dianabol
10ml test 200
220mg tamoxifen (at hand)
milk thistle
a have quite a gud frame with a bit of body fat on the stomach area. is my cycle going to make this worse?
i no dieting is the main key just dnt want to loose too many gains,is there anything owt there that a can take?

is there anybody owt there that can help?????

make your own thread, hoss

 

[RADAR]

bin workin owt naturally for the past few yrs, am 24,5ft 8' ,14st
am startin my first cycle in a few days:-
300 5ml dianabol
10ml test 200
220mg tamoxifen (at hand)
milk thistle
a have quite a gud frame with a bit of body fat on the stomach area. is my cycle going to make this worse?
i no dieting is the main key just dnt want to loose too many gains,is there anything owt there that a can take?

is there anybody owt there that can help?????

Please Make your own thread and not hijack other members threads.....We will be glad to help ,just not here,Thank You.

RADAR

 

[RADAR]

NOT good sorry


at LEAST 400 mgs of Test a week and it should be one shot on Mon and One on Thurs for Stabel Blood levels and Results.

Further, 20 mgs of Aromasin is way to much for only 200 mgs maybe even 400 mgsof Test is thats what you will use

also 75 mgs of Var whie "sexy" is too much you need only 50 on top of the 400 of Test.

if you use 50 mgs of Var + 400 mgs of Test, you will only need Adex as an AI

Also co-injest with Creatine of some kind since Anavar Profoundly amplifies uptake of Creatine storage and utilization as well as endogenous formation

This ,i agree on, 200mgs mon,then 200mg thurs. More stable blood levels.
Omega is right on with the other points of advice.

RADAR

 

[BIG onion]

Please Make your own thread and not hijack other members threads.....We will be glad to help ,just not here,Thank You.

RADAR

this is my thread its just am new to this site and i dnt no how the hell u wrk it

 

[BIG onion]

this is nmy thread its just am new to the site and havent got a clue how to use it

 

[BIG onion]

so to my previous thread can any 1 giv me advise?

 

[brandonp005]

this is nmy thread its just am new to the site and havent got a clue how to use it

this is stallbro's thread, he is the one that created it

go back to the page that lists all the different threads and at the top left, click new thread