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do you guys think that greg kovacs could,
'' had he chosen to, shatter every powerlifting record ever set''
-musclemag july 2001

it then says he can bench 725 for 2-3 reps(without a bench suit)
it also says he can bench 500lbs for 12 reps, military press(seated) 495 for 5 reps, squat 765 for 15 reps!!

he has 27 inch arms and a 70 inch chest, is this the strongets man ever?
i think he must be if he lifts what it says he does and he is a BB!

if he trained as a powerlifter, imagine what he would be lifting!!!!!
 
yeah he is a bodybuilder....but he hasn't competed in a few years and when he did he didn't place very well. People have been asking him about powerlifting .......but he hasn't stepped up to the plate yet. Maybe it's because he is under a weird contract with muscle tech who knows.

I saw a video of him working out.....he uses a smith machine for all of his pressing and he doen't do squats
 
greg kovacs is full of shit!!! if you notice in the mags it says he can do BO rows with 585---and it shows a picture of him holding 585 with is arms extended NEXT is show a pic after he has comleted the row with 405 on the bar. ed coan said he has done 575 full motion BO rows.
 
i dont know, i mean the guys like 400 pounds and lean. he'd got to move some serious weight!! theres no waya round it...now i do think he does lie about some of he measurements and strength feats.....but he is one big mofo!!!
 
There's no way. The 2 sports require such different training. I have seen a few 700lb benches and a couple 1000lb squats -- these were from guys who are at the top of the game and have been at it for along time. There's just no way a mediocre bodybuilder would be able to touch those marks.
 
I still say, if you are going to make such claims as being the strongest man in the world, you had better be ready to prove it. Whenever you say you are the bigest or the best at anything, you had better be ready to prove it.
 
He lies pretty much about everything.
I have a book at home. It has a picture of him, flexing his bi's.....with this lady holding a tape measure around it.It says like 25"......but her second hand is placed behind his arm. You cant see it but im pretty sure she has fingers under the tape measure.

The angles match up and everything.
 
From what I understand..

He never made those remarks about the huge lifts himself, Muscletech does the talking for him. I may be mistaken though. And.. yes being that big he must be reasonably strong but no where near the numbers presented.

kind regards,
jeremy
 
Actions speak louder than words - I'll wait for the contest results (oh..he's never competed? Well surely his lifts are legitimate? Bodybuilders exagerate and lie?)

-Doubtful (laughing) Madcow
 
who cares what greg kovacs can do........

he cant really lift the weights they say he does...(which by the way jeremy21 is right about)......and he has never said he made those claims

and who cares how big he is

its real simple......25 inch arms.......60 inch chest....... 35 inch thighs....... BIG FREAKIN DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\

it dont measure up if you have a 45 inch waist.....(which he does).......

he looks like crap..... a big hard strong weak fake.... whatever you want to call him....... he looks like crap

i will grant him props on bigness....... but thats where i draw my line
 
Aggreed. Kovacs is way too big. And what makes it worst is that that although he weighs about 400 at contest shape, a lot of that weight is in his waist. He is way too wide in the midsection, and did you all see his chest in that muscletech ad? He looks like he has gyno. Kovacs may want to think about gettin into powerlifting, cause he`s goin nowhere fast in bodybuilding.
 
I actually phoned Muscletech to see if there was chance of Kovacs competing in powerlifting but got no return phone call. Like someone said, the words and numbers published in their ads aren't his words. I would lOVE to see him on the platform though, plenty of lifters ready have him "put up or shut up" - at least according to the ads…

he may get called out at this years arnold classic though…3 BIG days of powerlifting!!!
 
Notice how he always pulls out of a contest after prejudging. It's like he shows up, knows he's going to lose, and doesn't go out for the night show. What's up with that? I'm sorry, but if he had 28" arms and a 70" chest he should be able to kick everyone's ass. Don't get me wrong though, I like Kovacs, just not as Mr. O hopeful. I'd love to see him on World's Strongest Man. I can't stand how MuscleTech has all of these ads in Muscle Mag trying to pass them off as articles. It seems every article that looks like it might possibly be beneficial ends up as a god-damn Cell-Tech ad, it pisses me off. If it weren't for all the T & A and Zulak's column ( which has it's fair share of Muscle Tech ads) I wouldn't even buy the damn thing. Flex is the only magazine that you can find everywhere that is worth buying. It has the most usful information for a mainstream mag, I just wish Powerlifting USA were more available. I would love to look like Kovacs, but even then I wouldn't even think of trying to take on Ronnie Coleman or Markus Ruhl.
 
Kovacs would get his ass kicked worse at a powerlifting meet and strong man contests. Esp the strongman contests -- those a real rough on your body and I'll gaurantee he is one fragile mf'er. Like I said before -- he's a mediocre bodybuilder who wouldn't stand a chance against national lvl powerlifters. State lvl, yes, and I'm not even talking about the top national guys -- just the guys who place 4 or 5. The top guys would blow him out in warmups.
 
I don't hate him, but he is full of shit. Or at least the claims of his lifts, whoever is responsible for them is full of shit.

I don't care much one way or the other, but to call him one of the strongest men of all time, he better step on the platform and prove it cause I think that is the only way I'll respect his claims. In powerlifting what you and your buddies can tag team bench on a smith machine don't mean jack. :splat:

I don't know the man, he probably is a decent guy:beer:. But the advertising people behind him and that toad Zulak :destroy: better put up or shut up. I'd say he could not put up numbers in a legit lift that Ricky Dale Crain could do. And he is a 165 class lifter.:D
 
You can't blame Kovacs, he is making a living off of Muscletech, he is basically an employee for the company...Like how Calvin Klein has models, Kovacs is a Muscletech model, of course he is a big strong guy and of course muscletech exaggerates his size and his lifts, but you can't dislike the guy because he is earning a living, I think just about everyone here would do the same thing if they looked like Kovacs, besides Greg doesn't make the claims, Muscletech does...Muscletech is wrong to make it seem like he should be held up in the strength world right with Paul Anderson and Kaz and Anthony Clark....but they sell products to people who read the magazines, so they are doing something right......the bottom line is it is a business and as far as Kovacs goes he is a puppet for a giant supplement company, Personally I think he should concentrate on his strength because the guy doesn't have what it takes to have a successful bodybuilding career and I don't think he will ever get any respect from powerlifters or strongmen unless he can demonstrate his lifts...but I don't know the man and I think it is unfair to bash him.
 
People don't dislike him for making a living. People dislike him because he is making a dishonest living. If he could put up the numbers he claims he would be at the WPO today taking home $50,000. I am sure Muscletech does not pay him that much for a days work.

The problem is that they publish these numbers that he supposedly does as legit lifts and it takes away from the people that are actually doing it. And the typical putz reading the magazine will believe it, but we know better. He is to blame just as much as Muscletech. He is doing what he has to do to make a killing in the industry, but it pisses many people off that he makes BS claims of strength when he can never even get on the platform with people like Garry, Coan, and Goggins.

I would love to see him put up or shut up!
 
guys, damn, you all sound really jelous of this guy.
dont take this the wrong way, i was just wondering about how he would do if he trained to be a powerlifter, but you all just started giving this guy shit because he is bigger and probably stronger than most of you.
Not one of you answered my question, just said the same as the next guy,
'' he is full of shit, he is just big, not strong, he would suck in powerlifting comps''
I dont know much about powerlifting, and wont pretend that i do, i am a bodybuilder, but i do know how and have gotten stronger myself and i am pretty sure that at his size, with those measurements (even if 25 inch arms, thats still HUGE!) he must be able to lift somewhere near those claims(yeah, i really hate muscletech ads too, they suck!) and he does train with rep range 12+ which aint that good for strength last time i checked.
So if this man concentrated on powerlifting-strength and not bodybuilding, then surely he would really kick some serious ass.
please someone, give me a decent answer, if you hate this guy, fine, but would he be a decent powerlifter??

thanx!
 
welsh, everything here is just speculation of course BUT I think your question has been answered. I dont think anyone here knows Greg enough to truly HATE him and he cant be responsible for the text that appears in the advertising featuring him.

BUT, my opinion is that gym lifts can be WAY different than meet lifts (ever done a max bench attempt after doing 3 max squat attempts?) Also, you keep mentioning the size of his arms/legs and the like - it doesnt matter! I had an old school teacher with 27-inch arms (FAT) - the judges go by what you push, not what you push it up with. Plenty of HUGE bodybuilders out there that cant squat what some of the 165-pound powerlifters can, (Saw wade Hooper and Tony Conyers hit 749 and 750 @165 on sunday - Yow!)

My $.02
 
Who hates the guy? I don't even know who he is. I just know he talks, in the ads, like a powerlifter, but does not go on the platform. I am sure he would do well if he focused his training toward power. We will never how he could do since he will never go on the platform. Why should he? In the BB world you can walk around saying you bench 750 and apparently other BB will believe it. If a powerlifter walks around and says that, we want to know the proof. Gym lifts don't mean squat. My grandmother benched 500 in the gym (true story :good: )...who cares because she can't do the bar in competition. Maybe she needs some of that Muscletech protein.

To answer your question, I think he could do good. He probably would never be competitive with Frank or Coan, but he would do well. I would love to see him up there. I would also love to see Muscletech sponsor his ass up on the platform when he benches 750. If it is not legit enough to do on the platform, it is not legit enough to print.
 
for the last time......... kovacs does not make the claims....... that is done by muscle tech...... he doent say a word........... he just works out and they take pictures.

and by the way......... his arms have grown an inch.... they are 27 inch now........ at least according to the newest muscletech advertisedment in the latest FLEX

the same issue where they make fun of him and the way he looked at the night of champtions........ hehehe
 
Muscletech cannot make claims about him without his permission so it is his fault just as much as muscletech's. You don't really believe he is an innocent bystander that has no say in what muscletech prints about him.

I heard the next muscletech ad is going to brag that kovacs manhood has double in size because of their protein. WHO CARES! They say crap to sell goods. Hopefully their products are more legitimate then their claims.
 
In answer to the original question (How would Kovacs do if trained as a powerlifter?), the answer is, not very well. If he doesn't have the discipline to compete in bodybuilding, why would he be any different when competing in powerlifting? He'd show up, do a few mediocre lifts, and then leave before the finals b/c he'd already know he lost.
 
At the end of the day Kovacks is a bodybuilder,big,strong but he lacks quality.The shows require you to have size,cuts,stage presentation not what you can lift or how big your arms are that is just a bullshit ego thing.Frank zane,lee labrada,to name a few were all little guys but they were always in the top 3 anyway if you want leg size just look at Tom platzs!!
 
1-dawg said:
There's no way. The 2 sports require such different training. I have seen a few 700lb benches and a couple 1000lb squats -- these were from guys who are at the top of the game and have been at it for along time. There's just no way a mediocre bodybuilder would be able to touch those marks.
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I hate to come across as sticking up for this dude, but......what does it matter how good a bodybuilder is, most powerlifters look lot like greg to me, huge waists and just plain huge!
just because he cant do weel in bodybuilding, does not mean he would never be able to touch those marks, the guy is a genetic freak, he was 230 lbs before he started lifting, i have seen photos where he must be around 400lbs, and to me, he looks very fucking strong....
 
Guys, last nite my cousin brought by a copy of "Greg Kovacs: Colossus." I must tell you, I was not impressed. Yes, he is big, but not 400# big. Yes, he is strong, but not any stronger than most other pro bodybuilders. For ex., he did 495 for about 5 reps on Smith machine incline. For comparison, Chris Cormier does that much on free-weight incline. Also, there is a growth on his shoulder that I can only attribute to Synthol. Yes, he may be genetically gifted, but I don't think he will ever amount to anything.
 
BigPhysicsBastard

I may have counted the plates and/or reps wrong. However, I did not fail to notice that his spotter was doing a good bit of helping on more than a few reps. Also, yes he did have alot of weight on leg press. However, he did knee-unlocks with it, not full reps. Also, you notice he never got near a squat rack. As far as his Smith machine incline putting him near the top, I myself have seen a Masters Olympia contestant do 585 for reps on that exercise, and he is 46 or 47 years old.
 
Heavywear, I didn't realize Hoop was still lifting. I first saw him compete 10 years ago. And he was good back then too.
 
675 on incline, for 8 reps......i dont think there are any other bodybuilders out there doing that.
Do you think it is true then when muscle tech said he does 725 for 2-4 reps on the bench?
that seems a big increase there, but you said this video was 3 years old, BigPhysicsBastard???
 
i think smith machines make benching harder...i did 10 reps on 135 with free weights, but only got 6 on the smith!
I know my strength on the bench sucks, but hopefully that will all soon change!
 
thats weird, i find it way harder......prob because the smith machine takes the stabilizer muscles out compared to the hardcore free weights, i can do way more on the frees
 
All these outrageous Kovacs claims are made in order to dupe suckers into buying Mucletech garbage. There are some naive people who will believe that Kovacs can really make these lifts, and his size and strength are due to Muscletech products alone.:fro:
 
I'm pretty sure no one in this world thinks greg got that huge just off muscle tech' shit...everyone knows the man is a walking anabolic heart attack just waiting to happen.
If you are 450 off season you are not in a good way!
 
Ya i gotta question? You hittin more then 6 reps with 135 on the smith yet? Its been severalmonths since that post just wandering if any gains have been made since then.

The guy is a product endorser. Dont you understand that man? I bet and i do knwo that some weights in those photo shoots are empty. He is big , no question. I am not nor has anyone ever disputed that, but he is not a fuckin superman like his product says he is. He doesnt say he does that shit. They do. He will not compete in powerlifting ever. No one wants him too. Just exhibition his 700 pound shirt less bench for reps! Get the fuck out of here. That insults every big bencher in the world making claims like that. He can't even come close to placing in his sport and if he ever decided to try to lift for powerlifting approval, i am sure he would be strong, but not anywhere near what he says. You see my young friend, they not only say he lifts alot but they say he lifts world record (one rep) lifts for REPS! Do you understand how outragious that sounds? Its like saying i am the baddest motherfucker in the world. I can kick anybody ass anytime of the day....but... i dont want too cause i have nothing to prove! Follow me now?

But to clear up this so you dont get upset about your hero, he is big as hell. He does have super human size. He is strong. He probably is very freakin strong. But not strong enough to lift the best lifts ever done for one rep , for 6 to 8 reps like they say he does.

And one more thing the smith machine is WAY easier then free weights. You are the only person in the history of my gym time to have ever said that.
 
People say all the time that they THINK that they can do this or that. There are tons of gym lifters out there...but they are not competitors. There is a huge difference. People can do all kinds of stuff in the comfort of their own home or gym...but when they have to step up to the platform...they choke.

Can he set all of those records? It doesn't matter because he is not the "competitor" in that respect. He will not step up to the platform and compete.

Shucks...they have labeled Mark Henry as "The World's Strongest Man." lol...lolololololololololol... Sure...he won a contest that was rigged for him so to speak. Will he ever compete in a real strongman contest (which all of the strongmen are calling him out to do)? NOPE...he will never put any proof to his claims.

B True
 
yeah dude, i now do 180 ish lbs (free weights) for 1-4 depending on how im feeling.

The smith machine in my gym is way harder than free weights! I squat with it sometimes, and that usually knocks 40 lbs off my best free weight!!!

Must be a fucked up smith....my buds find the same.

HAHA, Greg aint my hero pal, i would hate to look like a roided cunt like him.....natural all the way babay!
 
There are sometimes big differences in Smith machines and
weights handled. I can do a full parallel 505 pound free squat.
On the Smith Machine where I work out, I can do 550. The
Smith Machine that is in the gym where I work is a brutal
monster. I can barely get a set of five at 315 pounds on
the one at my work place.
 
powerlifterjay said:
And one more thing the smith machine is WAY easier then free weights. You are the only person in the history of my gym time to have ever said that.
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Na the smith machine in my gym is the same, I can lift more with free weights, so he is not the only person.
 
He looks like a comic book character in this picture:

kovacs19.jpg


I forget the name of the character but he's green.

JC
 
Remember...

Some Smith Machines are counter-balanced and some are not. As far as I'm concerned the Smith Machine doesn't exist.
 
The ability of one to use a smith machine will not only depend on whether it is counter-balanced or not, but also on the individuals strength curve and the path the bar actually travels during the lift. For example, my squat is nowhere near a straight line, as even with the bar high I still use a lot of back, and trying to squat in a smith machine would completely kill me. Somebody who presses in a straight line should find it easier.

If you really want to get something out of these things, find someone curling in the squat rack and hang them from it.
 
Ya know what? Iam with screwball 100% on this. I shouldnt have even given my 2 cents. As far as i am concerend the smith machine does not exist. I use it for absolutley nothing. Its worthless to me. I would just assume skip my workout then train on it. In fact i would be embarrased if any one happen to even see me on it! LOL!
 
If you really want to get something out of these things, find someone curling in the squat rack and hang them from it.
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Arioch: I hear you loud and clear. You can curl anywhere in a gym. Why take up the damn power rack??? I hate these people... (LOL!)

Jay: Smith Machines are good for hanging your gear (shirts, suits, belts, etc..) on when you're not using them and between sets. (LOL!)

This guy, Smith, should be beaten daily for inventing a piece of equipment that is worthless. Squatting and deadlifting on a Smith Machine; could you be any more pathetic.
 
As some of you know I am an older lifter. The heavy free squat
worried me. I used the Smith for about a year to move heavy
weights. I got to 550 on the Smith with belt and wraps. A
month or so of free squatting and I was able to tranlate the
Smith work into a 505 free squat with belt and lousy wraps. The
Smith helped me gain confidence and the will to move bigger
weight.

Now I am on to box squats, GMs, etc. Hope to move even larger
amounts of weight with a squat suit, good belt, decent wraps
and better form. I have the Smith to thank for helping get me to
the heavy free weight path. It served its purpose.

I will continue to use the Smith machine I have in my basement
gym. It will probably never see another squat from me but I
will use it to do pull ups. :)
 
We are ragging on the Smith Machine but I'm sure it has its uses and some trainers get good results. It's just not for me. Any free weight movement can't be beat in my opinion.
 
Ill try to scan a recent picture my workout partner took of Kovacs at this years Arnold. He is hardly recognizable hes so out of shape looking.
 
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