"In my opinion pro-hormones are garbage. Do a thread search and read up on what people are saying about them. They have PROVEN androgenic side effects but the jury's still out on whether or not they do anything as far as muscle growth is concerned. Why take chances. Stick to creatine, glutamine and a solid diet. If you're still unhappy, you would be better off with a REAL mild anabolic. Just my 2 cents."
Personally, I prefer to read Scientific Journals about the latest research on Pro-Hormones, and Steroids.
You seem to have some real knowledge. So how many summaries of scientific studies have you written Dr. JJ
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Shengrong, L. and Parish, EJ., JAOCS, 73, 1435
Kundu, N., Sandberg, A.A., and Slaunwhite, W.R., Steroids, 6, 543
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Ristovic L.J., Cobanovic M., Kem Ind, 24(7), 389-92
Hackenburg R, Turgetto I, Filmer A, J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol, 46(5), 597-603
Biol, 43(6), 499-505
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Unless you start publishing papers dont be knocking Pro-hormones. They work and there is scientific research to back it. I will agree with you however steroids are the best supplements available. Unfortunately some people are not able to use them. In the absence of steroids Pro-hormones do a great job of building muscle. dpsnutrition.com and nutritionmegastore.com dont have the free form selection of Andro. Thus they are more expensive. I may be a fool, but I'm a rich Summa Cum Laude fool