Ken Shamrock tests positive for steroids

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

You guys who miss the old bloodsport days of the UFC should look into Rioheroes: Tournament format, no gloves, few rules. The fighters are far more versatile than the old UFC guys though.

 

[gtrcivic]

Pride was alot better than UFC, but couldn't compete $$$wise and marketing done by UFC. As a result, Pride folded up. But the fights in pride were awesome compared to UFC.

 

[wwebound4life]

You guys who miss the old bloodsport days of the UFC should look into Rioheroes: Tournament format, no gloves, few rules. The fighters are far more versatile than the old UFC guys though.

Dude, your avatar is fuckin awesome, lol!!

 

[alphatest]

It is about a real fight. Keeping it as close to a real fight as can be. Now it used to be about a real blood match fight. SO damn right a man like Tank abbot should hold a belt if he can go toe to toe with another man in a real fight and bash his skull in every time.

Tank Abbott is horrible. Look at his record he wouldn't last for two seconds with todays heavyweights.

That is more correct then making it some round for round bull crap..

The rounds don't help people like Tank Abbott. He is a one trick fighter. The only skill he has is that he is big, strong, and can punch pretty hard. The problem is if he doesn't knock his opponent out in the first minute he gasses and loses. Look at all his recent losses, he has lost almost all of his fights in the first round.

HA!!!!!!!!! I would laugh my ass off if some geek tried to call a time out in a real fight. Or started dinging some gay little bell. That is not a real fight. Real fights do not have rules and they do not have bells.

Fighting in an cage with gloves and special flooring is not a real fight either.

It used to be about REAL FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!! WHO CAN WIN IN A REAL FIGHT. IF YOU CAN'T BEAT MAN LIKE HANK THE TANK WITH OUT ROUNDS AND A BELL TO HELP YOUR TWIG ASS THEN YOU ARE NOT A REAL FIGHTER. YOU ARE A RING MAN.

Tank has 14 losses. All of those occurred without the help of rounds or bells. Not a single fight that Tank has been in has made it out of the first.

blood sport,real fight,no bells,no gloves,no timed rounds. Just to men in a caged ring having a real blood sport fight like a real fight would happen. That is how you know who is a real UFC. not some timed ding ding I need a brake, o please stop this giant man from spilling my brains out of the side of my head.

If you need a reff to pull a man like that off of you then you are not a true UFC now are you.

Real UFC???? This isn't Roman Gladiators. The objective has always been to render your opponent unconscious or submit him. If you can accomplish either of these objectives the fight is over. There is simply no need to do any further damage. All the ref does is ensure that when this happens the fight is ended. Do you want to allow people to rip apart joints, brutally beat unconscious, or choke opponents to the point of brain damage?

 

[gunslinger2]

Pride was alot better than UFC, but couldn't compete $$$wise and marketing done by UFC. As a result, Pride folded up. But the fights in pride were awesome compared to UFC.

Yeah, Pride was far better than the UFC. I don't think they should take out all the rules, thats not what I'm saying at all.
What I'm saying is the more rules they add while trying to be more "main stream" is degrading the sport. Look at the first two or three UFCs then look at a modern UFC fight. The guys are all better fighters and in better shape, but they are better fighters within the confines of the rules. I train MMA but more for a real fight not to step inside the cage. When it goes to the ground and I have your back, sure I will go for the choke but not before 3-4 elbows to the base of the neck and back of the head. I see guys I train with all the time passing up move like this because in their mind its Illegal. Its what ever you train for. Do you want to compete in a sport? Or do you want to be able to servive on the street?
At this rate, in another 5-10 years I can see UFC being no more than glorified boxing with take downs.

 

[HaZaRDouZ]

any comments about the GSP and Penn fight? read my post above.

 

[alphatest]

Yeah, Pride was far better than the UFC. I don't think they should take out all the rules, thats not what I'm saying at all.
What I'm saying is the more rules they add while trying to be more "main stream" is degrading the sport. Look at the first two or three UFCs then look at a modern UFC fight. The guys are all better fighters and in better shape, but they are better fighters within the confines of the rules.

What rules specifically do you feel should be repealed. Knees to a downed opponenet? Soccer kicks? Knees to the head from side mount? While eye-gouging, groin shots, biting and hair pulling are all techniques that can be applied I don't think it will greatly affect a fighters dominance.

I train MMA but more for a real fight not to step inside the cage. When it goes to the ground and I have your back, sure I will go for the choke but not before 3-4 elbows to the base of the neck and back of the head. I see guys I train with all the time passing up move like this because in their mind its Illegal. Its what ever you train for.

Not only are elbows to the back of the head illegal in mma, they are completely unnecessary in 99% of street fights. If you have your opponents back why would to want to risk causing permanent damage to him? Choke him out and the fight is over. No one wants to end up in criminal court with a manslaughter charge or end up having to pay medical bills for a man suffering from permanent paralysis.

Do you want to compete in a sport? Or do you want to be able to servive on the street?

99 times out of 100 a UFC fighter will beat someone who trains to "survive on the streets" in a no rules fight

 

[Trendsetter21]

Ya and like all of them are not on steroids. Fuck this is why I hate the fact that this sport was main streamed like it has been. It used to be a real blood sport and at the time never tested for steroids like a bunch of pussies.

Bring back hank the tank. I remember one of shamrocks first fights was against this beast of a man. Now that is a real fight. This sport is turning for the worst. More gay rules, all this stop the fight bull crap and testing for steroids.

I agree most of those guys are on steroids, and if you know your going to get tested before a fight why aren't you on short life esters????

They should make all drugs legal, because the fact of the matter is if you want to take something your going to, its readily available and the war on drugs has failed. Its time to tax it and save the economy!

 

[sshadoww]

I think some one should invent a fight with baseball bats,chines,brass knuckles and shit like that. uwfc ya know.

They did...it's called divorce

 

[Muscle Stack]

Pride was alot better than UFC, but couldn't compete $$$wise and marketing done by UFC. As a result, Pride folded up. But the fights in pride were awesome compared to UFC.

Pride was in Japan and whan they tride to come to the USA Dana and the Fertittas saw them as a threat to the UFC and as a result purchased them for a little less than 70 million. Initially they made statement to build the sport out world wide and to basicly keep pride but I know them better than that and they just dismanteled the compition and are now the only MMA venue of its size. Truth is the only one coming up that can be considered compition is San Jose based Strikeforce. They just signed a new contract with Showtime and CBS and with their President Scott Coker running it it will be something to watch...