Just tried the "Bubble Method" for injecting

[creep]

I can't believe some of you vets don't know what the "bubble method" is used for. It's purpose "isn't" to get ALL the gear out of the needle. The air left inside the syringe is used to keep the oil from seeping out of the muscle. An added benefit is that it gets most of the oil out of the needle. And the air won't kill, haven't any of you noticed the air thats gets pulled into the syringe when you aspirate?? I use this method and I inject everyday. I'm not dead yet!

 

[houseofpain]

Maybe if you were using 20 gauge railroad spike to inject with, you might be losing a substantial amount of gear left in the needle. But a 25 gauge needle is going to have a negligible amount of gear left in it.

I'm with the "F That" crowd...

 

[bwood]

Folks ! You only put a tiny amount of air in the syringe , just enough to get all the gear out of the hub of the needle. We're not talking about 5cc's. When you draw you're gear up thump syringe to get all the bubbles out and force air out. Then draw back on the plunder till you see just enough air to clear the needle's hub, shouldn't be more than 1/10 th of a ml.

most of the medical stuff i have read, lists 3cc's as the minimum amount that is required to be injected into a vein to cause problems...that is A LOT of air!!!

 

[_Yossarian_]

I'm all about the air. No wasted special sauce, no leakage, and you get to hear the nifty "psssst" upon completion..

 

[creep]

Here's a link for you non-believers..

http://www.nursesnetwork.co.uk/nurses office/02_06_24iminj.shtml

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Creep is right; the primary reason for airlocking (bubble method) is to close the injection track; the same reason some use a z-track protocol.

I've experimented with airlocking; wasn't my favorite.

 

[halfaclue]

Think about in this way. Pumping oil into a vien is just as deadly. The message? Don't inject into a vien.

That is not even close to true. Do you have any idea how many intravenous drugs are oil based? And yes an air bubble can kill you, not sure on the size but I would rather waste $7 out of a 10cc bottle then kill myself.

 

[High-Jacked]

I read some info from a UK website a few days back, it listed the benefits of the Bubble Method and the Z track method. The primary purpose for this like someone posted earlier, is to prevent the gear from seeping back out toward the skin and causing possible infection, the saving of the your gear is just a side benefit. I am no doctor, but supposedly it is considered a safer injection technique if done properly. But to each his own, I'm with Bodybyfinaplex on this one, I too want to get every last drop that I paid for!

 

[Turkish]

There are more than a few drops in the top of the pin.(not the actual needle) I remember reading one person who collected it and after 10 1cc shots there was a total of about 1cc wasted.

It prevents oil from seeping out.

It takes at least 3cc of air shot directly into a vein to be dangerous.

You are not pulling air in when you aspirate. the bubble created is a vacuum.

There is no reason not to utilize this method other than ignorance.