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Just out of curiosity what are everyones thoughts on God and a higher power here.

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Atheists want to be rational about everything except rationality itself – they want to bind them and us (actually really just us) to a philosophical system with no foundation that essentially denies the existence of humanity itself. But that water man will never get out of the ocean on his water ladder, and it takes a mind independent of the physical world to truly understand it.
I have have grown up Catholic and have been my entire life.. Being a woman and watching a baby grow inside me is far from just "science"!!
It's GOD!... I feel sorry for you and it always goes back to the parents because what u never were taught you just don't get it.. u werent built with that foundation...and as a grown man u struggle to believe whats real and what's not! As successful as you may be, you lack so much!
An ATHIEST DOES believe cause they say they don't believe in God.. Just by saying that they acknowledge he exists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Need I say more !?
How do you deny something you say doesn't exist?????????????


Well, THAT wasn't too condescending.

And thanks for putting words in my mouth.

Wait a minute...by someone saying they don't believe there's a god it proves that he exists? You lost me.
 
Because others insist that it does so if your atheist you don't believe in a god. People get really worked up about religion or non-religion

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Well, THAT wasn't too condescending.

And thanks for putting words in my mouth.

Wait a minute...by someone saying they don't believe there's a god it proves that he exists? You lost me.

Believing in God is a matter of faith!! And faith is a Gift which is given by God and received only by those who's spirit is open to receive it!!!!! Hopefully u get what I'm saying and aren't lost anymore!!!!
 
One thing that is important for all of us to remember is that God blessed man with the gift of free will and he does not step in on this boundary... We are all free to make our own decisions and choices... We can be guided and taught but its up to each individual to make his OWN choice... I feel you would be hard pressed to find anyone with more faith than I have HOWEVER, I cannot stand when others push it on to others either... Its one thing to help to educate, especially when one asks for help or guidance... Its our duty to do that but ITS NOT our duty to push others... I know that anytime anyone ever pushes anything on me then I do the complete opposite just despite them and I am sure there are many others that do the same... I very much disagree with Nelson's beliefs HOWEVER, he is still my friend, I still respect him and I am not going to say anything bad to him or about him unless he says it about me... He is entitled to his own opinions and thoughts... It doesn't mean I or anyone else who disagrees has to follow suit... Remember, free will... Free will to do and make your own choices and decisions... All we can do is help and love one another... We were all given talents and abilities and we need to utilize them to the fullest... Be kind and helpful and good things will come.. You are not supposed to judge others... Remember that... If you want to be forgiven then you have to forgive... If you don't want to be judged then you must not judge... These are all important to remember... We can all discuss this and give opinions and thoughts and still believe what we all will... Hopefully some can learn a thing or two along the way but the hateful comments need to stop... That's not what this is for... You can give an honest opinion without talking shit... Plain and simple... That goes for everyone on both sides... I am of the strongest faith but I also know that we are taught to love one another and that one that is lost will be found... Keep all these things in mind and for fucks sake, love one another... =)
 
Believing in God is a matter of faith!! And faith is a Gift which is given by God and received only by those who's spirit is open to receive it!!!!! Hopefully u get what I'm saying and aren't lost anymore!!!!


Okay that's fair. You can believe what you want and I can believe what I want. But I'm lost. Gotcha.
 
One thing that is important for all of us to remember is that God blessed man with the gift of free will and he does not step in on this boundary... We are all free to make our own decisions and choices... We can be guided and taught but its up to each individual to make his OWN choice... I feel you would be hard pressed to find anyone with more faith than I have HOWEVER, I cannot stand when others push it on to others either... Its one thing to help to educate, especially when one asks for help or guidance... Its our duty to do that but ITS NOT our duty to push others... I know that anytime anyone ever pushes anything on me then I do the complete opposite just despite them and I am sure there are many others that do the same... I very much disagree with Nelson's beliefs HOWEVER, he is still my friend, I still respect him and I am not going to say anything bad to him or about him unless he says it about me... He is entitled to his own opinions and thoughts... It doesn't mean I or anyone else who disagrees has to follow suit... Remember, free will... Free will to do and make your own choices and decisions... All we can do is help and love one another... We were all given talents and abilities and we need to utilize them to the fullest... Be kind and helpful and good things will come.. You are not supposed to judge others... Remember that... If you want to be forgiven then you have to forgive... If you don't want to be judged then you must not judge... These are all important to remember... We can all discuss this and give opinions and thoughts and still believe what we all will... Hopefully some can learn a thing or two along the way but the hateful comments need to stop... That's not what this is for... You can give an honest opinion without talking shit... Plain and simple... That goes for everyone on both sides... I am of the strongest faith but I also know that we are taught to love one another and that one that is lost will be found... Keep all these things in mind and for fucks sake, love one another... =)

exactly we live in a secular country where anyone is free to worship or not worship as they choose. thats why we love it.
 
Most people can look at something of high complexity and design like a computer or an automobile and understand that there was a Designer or Creator behind its existence. I look at nature and our bodies and see 10x the complexity. To look at such a complex design and then deny the existence of a Designer is a stretch (to be polite).

I for one choose to believe that my Ford truck was created by a Big Bang and evolution. I refuse to believe that any designer or engineer was involved.
 
id love to hear ppls answer to wat nelson mentioned earlier,if god made everythin then who or wat made god an if thers a thing or sum1 who made them an how did it all begin plus ur faith does take a lil bashing wen things like priests sexually abusing children which recently came to light a lot in uk so if god does exist why dis he let this happen?or does god not hav a roll after creation?
 
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