Just got T levels back

[Hollow Man]

I'm 36 and had my T levels checked recently, it came back 206. I have never used AAS either. My doc gave me an RX for the test patch Androderm 5mg. I will start it Saturday and have another blood test in a month to see what my levels are. Oh, and I have not had a Vasectomy either.

 

[nadr7891]

get him to give you a weekly shot, man. it's far more effective and much less of a hassle.

Nadr

 

[Hollow Man]

I was trying for that but she said it was a big hassle etc. I will see what happens, maybe i will be able to talk her into it later.

 

[twistedneck]

Do the shots bro.. 80 to 100mg evey 5 days.. seems to be the way to hit hi normal. As long as you don't go over high normal you shouldn't have any permanent supression if you decide to come off... That's my plan anyway.

 

[Random987]

Given that TRT is a "lifelong" issue, does it make sense to take some Clomid or HCG every 3 months? I really don't want to kill my chance to have a family down the road.

 

[gunner44]

I have to say that it is only wishfull thinking when you say you can take 80-100 mg e 5 days without permenant shutdown.

I just started a HRT cycle, and as usual, my nuts began to shrink after only 3 weeks at 100mg e5d.

I think that the human body does not want to see any more test than it is producing naturally, even if your nat production is as low as 200.

My test at the time had dropped back down to 277 after being as high as 800 while on nolvadex.

You would think that my body wouldnt want to shut down at that level, but it did.

When it comes to atrophy, i dont think that dosage really maters at all. If you shut down, then it doesnt matter if it is from 100 mg weekly or 1000mg e5d. I know that lipids/chlosterol profile go down hill real fast after 500-600mg of test weekly, so why not do HRT with 300-400 weekly so long as your Blood Pressure and HDL/LDL are ok why the hell not?

 

[Hollow Man]

In regards to getting the injections from the doctor, she stated it would be once a month or even once every two months.

 

[Random987]

Not sure if that is a great idea Hollowman. Granted I am a complete newbie, but it is my understanding that injections make their way into the bloodstream pretty quickly, so there will not be a good constant supply of test, i.e. you will feel great after the shots, but it will taper down until your next shot. Most people recommend a shot a week or every two weeks. That is one reason why people like Androgel or Testim, it simulates that body's natural production, so you have a constant supply of Test.

 

[Hollow Man]

I hear ya bro, the frequency was what the doctor said. I just responded to Twistedneck's respone that said every 5 days when my Dr said every month or every other month. If my Dr said every 5 days I would have pushed for it.

 

[twistedneck]

gunnar44 wrote,

I think that the human body does not want to see any more test than it is producing naturally, even if your nat production is as low as 200.

Bro you really made me think. I read your story and am chaning my mind - maybe I was being wishful. good comment.

Random987 wrote,

That is one reason why people like Androgel or Testim, it simulates that body's natural production, so you have a constant supply of Test.

Random is right about daily androgel resulting in more even test levels, but what if you forget to wipe it off your hand and get that shit on your kid or your GF and she starts growning a beard or getting a huge clit?? lol. I guess the patch is better or the new gum stuff, but i've heard if you really need to get past like mid level test than inj. is the way.

Random, how does Androgel or Testim simulate the natural production more? btw, many HRT docs recomend weekly injections because the dose tapers off so much with ever two weeks on cyp or enanthate.