Just got T levels back

[DTOX]

I am a little late to the discussion.
I finally had my PCP check my testosterone levels the other week and they came back at 325ng/dL. I've never used AAS and I'm 20. She says this is in the normal range and even refuses to send me to get a more thorough blood test including free and unbound test, LH, FSH, estradiol... because "you don't need it."

Unfortunately this is very typical. You're at the extreme low end of the "normal" range. Obviously this is way too goddamn low for a 20 year old, but most doctors don't give a shit.

I was basically in the same boat, but I convinced my doctor to give me a "followup" test in 6 months and then proceeded to do everything I possible could to lower my testosterone for the test. The 2nd test I was rock-bottom and have since been on HRT.

 

[gunner44]

This is starting to piss me off. My doc called me and said my latest tests came back at a whopping 347. he said that b/c this fell in the normal range that there wasn't anything he could do for me. he advised me to come back in a month for more bloodwork. I think he is a fucking vampire. Anyway, now i'm sittin around feeling like shit. I have an aptmnt with a different endo doc on may 5 for a 2cd opinion. It would be so much easier to just put my self on a self prescribed HRT. I think the fucker forgot I'm only 28.

BRO THAT SUCKS, BUT THAT IS HOW IT IS !!

I am in the same boat. My doc has watched my blood tests bounce all over the fucking place, but if it is within the range, thay wont want to help you.

You have to decide if your quality of life will be improved enough to deal with the risks, including the fact that you are now being FORCED by our fucked up medical community to ILLEGALLY treat your own condition.

Bro, I feel for you. I have decided to go on HRT 100mg e 5 days for 6 months and see where it lands me.

Question for nelson:

Nelson have you been able to see the effect of proviron use on your free test levels ?

When I had my blood work done RIGHT after my last cycle, I was at 244 total test and 75 on free test. The doc acted really confused because the Free % ratio was WAY too high. I was only on proviron 25mg at the time.

How do you feel about adding proviron to a HRT program? Is it worth it ?

 

[easy]

BRO THAT SUCKS, BUT THAT IS HOW IT IS !!

I am in the same boat. My doc has watched my blood tests bounce all over the fucking place, but if it is within the range, thay wont want to help you.

You have to decide if your quality of life will be improved enough to deal with the risks, including the fact that you are now being FORCED by our fucked up medical community to ILLEGALLY treat your own condition.

Bro, I feel for you. I have decided to go on HRT 100mg e 5 days for 6 months and see where it lands me.

Question for nelson:

Nelson have you been able to see the effect of proviron use on your free test levels ?

When I had my blood work done RIGHT after my last cycle, I was at 244 total test and 75 on free test. The doc acted really confused because the Free % ratio was WAY too high. I was only on proviron 25mg at the time.

How do you feel about adding proviron to a HRT program? Is it worth it ?

I went to s different Endo And was tested in the low 100's. It's somwhere in this thread. Anyway, Been on HRT since July and life is back to normal. I think everybody should request to have their test levels checked at their anual physical. No point in suffering if you don't have to.

 

[Ashamed]

My last test for natural test levels revealed me to be off the scale i.e. greater than high normal. I don't know if my use of just 5mg every 2 days or so of nolvadex for about 6 months contributed to this pleasingly high level. I had been off for about 8 months when i had this test done, and just decided to keep taking a bit of nolv' here and there.

 

[C-Russ]

Word of Advice! HRT is a life long decision. It is NOT something you just want to try out like a couple AAS Cycle. You can't stop.

My Story, I was 33 when I started feeling the effects of low test now that I look back. But at the time I never thought that anything was really wrong, just that I wasn't a teenager any longer. The only thing that drove me to the Endocrinologist was that it was slowly taking WAYYY too long for me to hit the big O and with increasingly frequency I would even loose the wood during sex. Drove my wife nuts until she wouldn't even do it any more. She said I was way to focused on trying to spit. Viagra helped a little but it was no cure. It still took forever for me to spit. I had to do something, ANYTHING, it was not good, LIFE SUCKED (especially cuz I was always horny as hell)

Anways when I was tested (several times) and I was on the very very very low side naturally (I had never cycled before)

FREE Test was 15.7 range is 47 - 244 pg/mL
TOTAL Test was 109 range is 241 - 827 NG/DL.

I have been on HRT for over a couple years now, and life is GRAND. I currenlty take 200 /week. I get tested every 3 months and more often if I change dosage. I would say that unless you were as low as I was, 100 /5-7 days is the absolute highest the doc will allow you to go. (they like an every 2 week schedule and vary the dosage, but I was getting mood swings)

I can only echo what many of the others that have DONE HRT have said about it. More is not better it is actually worse. I have taken more during an off cycle and it does not give you any more gains, it doesn't keep your gains from a cycle any longer and it KILLS your libido.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Oh and my Insurance pays for every other med under the sun and they won't cover my Delatestryl either. $109 /5 weeks, but it is worth the alternative.

 

[twistedneck]

I'm new to this thread but I just wanted to add that I got my total test done a few weeks ago - came back at 360. I have very low libido and most of the other typical andropause sides.. Being that i'm at 360 what the hell can i do?

Should i just ask my doc to refer me straight to an endo? or should i just stick with him. he doesn't know shit, i asked him what the normal range was and he sputtered... uhhh 200 to 1700, nice.


he told me to lift weights and get more sleep.

 

[CLOBRO]

Just thought I would chime in with my test results. I'm 30 years old:
Here is old T levels:
Free Testosterone 19.6. Ref range 19.0-94 PMOL/L
Total Testosterone 7.4 . Ref range 6.0-30 PMOL/L.

Here is new T levels, 1 day after 3rd shot 100 mg Delatestryl
Free Testosterone 79.6 Ref range 19-94 PMOL/L
Total Testostereone 24.3. Ref range 6.0-30 PMOL/L

Sex drive is up, memory and concentration is better and I feel pumped! Thank god for Dr. prescribed test!

I started HCG after this blood test, next test will be with HCG!

 

[Random987]

Do you guys know if a repubtable doctor will agree to the HCG and Clomid every 3 months for plain ol' TRT? I am worried about the infertility side affects of TRT treatment.....

That 200mg/wk is a tad surprising...

Even with 200mg/wk I don't think that will cause total supression (just the 50% I had quoted before). Regardless it might be a good idea to do HCG+Clomid every 3 months just to kickstart the testicles into overdrive for awhile.

 

[twistedneck]

There are a few doc's over at cutting edge muscle, check out the hrt forum here too..

 

[easy]

I havn't approached my doc as I didn't think I would need it. I can now definately see a loss in size of the giggleberries. I don't care about infertility sides as I think my vasectomy started all this but I would like to have em hanging large like they used to.