my avatr pic has me at calipers at 3.2%. this was done by the guy who trains me as well as a few NPC folks and a new pro from Dallas. Taken in 4 places ( back,upperleg,abs,upper chest). i will say i felt like i was dead while being on stage and I would never be in this kind of shape for more than a few days. look at me and see why. i should post the front pic.