Juicer or natural

[Sub-Zero]

http://www.healthnfit.org/cpg132/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=0

 

[Gambino]

hebrewski

 

[TrailerParkTrash]

natural! you can see how he's gained size over the last 1-2 years

 

[Sub-Zero]

natural! you can see how he's gained size over the last 1-2 years

does he have his cycles layed out?

 

[chefbone]

No j-fro can get that big naturally......j/k

 

[CENTURION44]

 

[TrailerParkTrash]

Cycles? WHAT cycles?? ayeayeaye!!

 

[Sub-Zero]

Cycles? WHAT cycles?? ayeayeaye!!

bi- ones

 

[Tacosupreme]

natural.. he has no thickness

 

[deltreefitness]

He has crazy wide abs.

 

[Sub-Zero]

well, verdict is in.

hes a juicer

 

[The Shadow]

er....no

 

[GoldenDelicious]

wasnt he in fightclub?

 

[gonelifting]

natural

 

[eat big]

wasnt he in fightclub?

Yeah, did Brad Pitt juice for Fightclub?

 

[Sub-Zero]

er....no

hes a juicer what do u mean no.

we know u juice too, dont try and lie

 

[_Yossarian_]

the dude might be on the sauce, but that's nothing you can't obtain naturally....

Id go with no...

 

[Sub-Zero]

the dude might be on the sauce, but that's nothing you can't obtain naturally....

Id go with no...

for real?

damn, u wanna be my trainer?

 

[The Shadow]

hes a juicer what do u mean no.

we know u juice too, dont try and lie

again......wrong

 

[HiDnGoD]

I'd say he's too young to build that naturally.

 

[Sub-Zero]

again......wrong

whatever

I'd say he's too young to build that naturally.

hes 17 and 5'3

 

[_Yossarian_]

whatever

hes 17 and 5'3

wow, he's only 17?!

lol, maybe he is on the sauce.....

 

[The Shadow]

whatever

hes 17 and 5'3

You guys are assuming that it takes gear to get ripped...two separate issues....What does he weigh?

135?

 

[Sub-Zero]

You guys are assuming that it takes gear to get ripped...two separate issues....What does he weigh?

135?

5'3 160.

i have a friend who is super ripper and doesnt juice, and his genetics are amazing. quit trying to be such an advocate for natural trainers.

you know that kid juices, (even if i hadnt said he does)

its not about what is possible, its about probably

 

[blut wump]

Just tell me whether I can drink clambutteroil.

 

[Genom]

hello guys this is me genom (the one in that pic)
I am yes 5'3 155 pounds carb depleted
tomorrow starting to carb loading for competition
4 more days to go

 

[Sub-Zero]

hello guys this is me genom (the one in that pic)
I am yes 5'3 155 pounds carb depleted
tomorrow starting to carb loading for competition
4 more days to go

looking awsome buddy.

welcome to EF.

 

[_Yossarian_]

hello guys this is me genom (the one in that pic)
I am yes 5'3 155 pounds carb depleted
tomorrow starting to carb loading for competition
4 more days to go

good luck bro.

by the way, you on the sauce?

 

[Genom]

no I am on protein lol
btw I am 6% bf
17.5 years old from Israel
this is my 3rd competition
I was 179 pounds with water on 12.5% bf before I started my diet (1 month and half diet)

btw trailerpark told me about this forum/thread

 

[Sub-Zero]

no I am on protein lol
btw I am 6% bf
17.5 years old from Israel
this is my 3rd competition
I was 179 pounds with water on 12.5% bf before I started my diet (1 month and half diet)

btw trailerpark told me about this forum/thread

hes a good bro.

ur a juicer though, no need to lie.

doesnt make u look any less good

 

[B0ARDIN087]

he dont juice, he has nice abs and a great physique but other then that nothing is too large (no offense bro you look great for your age but you dont have the thickness to make me think you juice)

 

[Genom]

hes a good bro.

ur a juicer though, no need to lie.

doesnt make u look any less good

you can think what you want but I am not
and if I am am a juicer you really think I will tell you this?
bodybuilders dont talk about their cycles and if they are clean or not
because its bad reputation

 

[Sub-Zero]

you can think what you want but I am not
and if I am am a juicer you really think I will tell you this?
bodybuilders dont talk about their cycles and if they are clean or not
because its bad reputation

sorry, your natural, my bad to throw ur shit around, but this was before u were on elite.

naturally im gunna suck up to u now though...

so how long u been lifting?

 

[Genom]

sorry, your natural, my bad to throw ur shit around, but this was before u were on elite.

naturally im gunna suck up to u now though...

so how long u been lifting?

1 year and 9 months

 

[Sub-Zero]

1 year and 9 months

damn so uv been juicing a while now

 

[blut wump]

So, what do we really have here?
Abbott and Costello or your basic Hope and Crosby

 

[The Shadow]

5'3 160.

i have a friend who is super ripper and doesnt juice, and his genetics are amazing. quit trying to be such an advocate for natural trainers.

you know that kid juices, (even if i hadnt said he does)

its not about what is possible, its about probably

160??


hmm......thats bullshit from the pics I have seen.


franco in the off season was around 160......about 180 for a show and he dwarfs that kid at the same height

 

[chefbone]

genom = SubZM's alter. Nice try fat-ass!!!!!

 

[blut wump]

http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/restaurants/review-2391.php

 

[bluehen]

5'3" 160 no. Juicer, no! Those are my votes

 

[Ozz2001]

Clearly natural......

 

[Sub-Zero]

160??


hmm......thats bullshit from the pics I have seen.


franco in the off season was around 160......about 180 for a show and he dwarfs that kid at the same height

uhm he just said he was

 

[wnt2bBeast]

juicer who doesnt know how to lift
most likely uses all machines to get a "pump"

 

[Genom]

juicer who doesnt know how to lift
most likely uses all machines to get a "pump"

wtf are you
and what do you know about my lifts and how I lift?
go play with your balls, kid
thought this forum will have some level
but I guess those forums sucks

 

[blut wump]

The only pump worth a damn is the Chartham Method.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

wtf are you
and what do you know about my lifts and how I lift?
go play with your balls, kid
thought this forum will have some level
but I guess those forums sucks

thats you????
bwahahhahaha i didnt read th whoel thread through..oh well

i actually dont even lift weights its bad for you..and i sure as hell would stay away from squatting/benching/deads with a barbell they are not good for your body

 

[RADAR]

I've trained many people and i can tell you he is natural, a good diet can achieve that!


RADAR

 

[PIGEON-RAT]

I can't believe people think he's juicing...

It really makes me wonder how many people here really work out.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

I can't believe people think he's juicing...

It really makes me wonder how many people here really work out.

you do realize that people can take AAS and not even look like they workout?-no joke

most people see a "big" guy or a 'strong" guy inthe gym and they automatically assume they are using something-prolly only true less than half the time

 

[PIGEON-RAT]

you do realize that people can take AAS and not even look like they workout?-no joke

most people see a "big" guy or a 'strong" guy inthe gym and they automatically assume they are using something-prolly only true less than half the time

Yeah I'm well aware, but those are the people who don't have their diet/training in order and think the AAS will do everything. Obviously this kid knows how to eat and how to train, so if he was using AAS he would be much bigger with the added help.

I just think it says a lot when people think this look is unattainable without steroids. People need to check out the training and diet forums more often.

 

[tiger88]

well when he is ready to juice u know where to find me and it ... i got alot of 2005' stuff and the 06' gear is on the way so i need to get rid of the excess stuff so lemme know when he is rdy

 

[Spartacus]

I don't think it's the thickness and/or mass that gives away juice
tight skin

 

[wnt2bBeast]

I just think it says a lot when people think this look is unattainable without steroids. People need to check out the training and diet forums more often.

i think this sums about about 70% of people in most gyms
ell i got 2 young kids 150 soaking wet who cant bench more than 225 who are talking about taking AAS and theyre 18-20 yrs old

hell their test levels should be higher than mine

 

[Sub-Zero]

I've trained many people and i can tell you he is natural, a good diet can achieve that!


RADAR

can tell me its possible to be natural and look like that, or can tell me he IS natural?

but u wanna be my trainer? seriously, we will live together, party together, eat together, lift together, go bowling together.

i will do everything u say in terms of lifting and diet- i will be a canvas, and you will be the artist.

any of my earnings i make from bbing, i split with you 45%/55%

 

[Sub-Zero]

Yeah I'm well aware, but those are the people who don't have their diet/training in order and think the AAS will do everything. Obviously this kid knows how to eat and how to train, so if he was using AAS he would be much bigger with the added help.

I just think it says a lot when people think this look is unattainable without steroids. People need to check out the training and diet forums more often.

hes been lifting not even 2 years, and he already admitted he juices....

im glad u know how to train though bro

 

[The Shadow]

uhm he just said he was

so you automatically believe everything you hear??

 

[Sub-Zero]

so you automatically believe everything you hear??

dont make me unleash my wrath upon you.

 

[wutangnomo]

Not everyone that juices has the "thickness", nor must everyone who juices have to look like Ronnie.

The amount of people who juice who look like they've never seen the inside of a gym would surprise most of you.

Who knows if that kid juices or not, but he's got some excellent muscle and is pretty shredded to the bone for only 17.