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I truly LOVE fez. :heart:

Puddle makes this prego chick make puddles in her pants laughing.

Swole is a sweet person.
 
I walked up to the first dice table that was free and hit 4 numbers (the point)...I was on fire. My boy rolled next and hit 3 numbers. Won $500 in 2 hours, took my money, ate two greasy burgers and went home.

We should have a meatup at one of these casinos.
 
swole said:
I walked up to the first dice table that was free and hit 4 numbers (the point)...I was on fire. My boy rolled next and hit 3 numbers. Won $500 in 2 hours, took my money, ate two greasy burgers and went home.

We should have a meatup at one of these casinos.
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Fuck me running man. I'm literally 0-13 on Roulette tables at the Sun. I've walked by 13 times, slapped 50 bucks on the outside (always red) and lost 13 times.

Plus I just tried winny for the first time, weighed myself and saw that it made me lose 5-8 pounds. FUCK. I feel skinny. I look big as fuck but if I don't see that needle on the scale point to the number I want, I feel like jumping off a bridge.

I think I'm gonna do a light Cyp and Tbol cycle.

Hows your shit going?? Did you get alot of bloat on the cyp??

I want about 10-12 pounds of bloatless muscle.

Please help me before I jump off said bridge.
 
patsfan1379 said:
Plus I just tried Winstrol - stanozolol for the first time, weighed myself and saw that it made me lose 5-8 pounds. FUCK. I feel skinny. I look big as fuck but if I don't see that needle on the scale point to the number I want, I feel like jumping off a bridge.

I think I'm gonna do a light testosterone cypionate and Turanabol cycle.

Hows your shit going?? Did you get alot of bloat on the testosterone cypionate??

I want about 10-12 pounds of bloatless muscle.

Please help me before I jump off said bridge.
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what are you running right now?
 
Faizakafez said:
what are you running right now?
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I did 2 weeks of Winstrol Tabs @ 30mg day and lost 5-8 pounds. I'm solid and shredded but I want size. I figured I'd just give Winny (buddy had some lying around) a try to see how it was and I hate it. I want bulk without bloat.
 
patsfan1379 said:
I did 2 weeks of Winstrol Tabs @ 30mg day and lost 5-8 pounds. I'm solid and shredded but I want size. I figured I'd just give Winstrol - stanozolol (buddy had some lying around) a try to see how it was and I hate it. I want bulk without bloat.
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i'd try at least 50mg a day. and eventually 75-100. winny is nice, cuz it'll keep you strong without the bloat....
 
wtf 5-8 pounds on 30mg..


anyways... cyp is the worst on bloating imo

id go with test e or prop throw in some tren/var and you got a lean mass stack!
 
HumanTarget said:
i'd try at least 50mg a day. and eventually 75-100. Winstrol - stanozolol is nice, cuz it'll keep you strong without the bloat....
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Fuck me man, I'm just gonna see if I can get my hands on some Cyp and Tbol.

I'll be in the juice forum looking for questionable sources.
 
I've done Enanthate before... I loved it.

Lets turn my appreciation thread into a "lets build patsfan a cycle thread"

What I want:

LBM. Not huge mass gains... 10-15 pounds quality would be fine for me.

No DBOL, Tren or Winny. They kill me. Tren especially.

How does this sound.

Weeks 1-5 TBOL - 50mg/day
Weeks 1 - 10 Enanthate 300mgs/week
Weeks 1-10 A-Dex .5mgs/day
HCG Post & Nolva @ 20, 10 for 3 weeks post cycle.

Hows that sound juicebags?
 
patsfan1379 said:
I've done Enanthate before... I loved it.

Lets turn my appreciation thread into a "lets build patsfan a cycle thread"

What I want:

LBM. Not huge mass gains... 10-15 pounds quality would be fine for me.

No Dianabol - methandrostenolone - , trenbolone or Winstrol - stanozolol. They kill me. Tren especially.

How does this sound.

Weeks 1-5 Turanabol - 50mg/day
Weeks 1 - 10 Enanthate 300mgs/week
Weeks 1-10 A-Dex .5mgs/day
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - Post & Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - @ 20, 10 for 3 weeks post cycle.

Hows that sound juicebags?
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good shit but a bit light, what about front loading with Test P in week 1.

also what about adding var for strenght hardness and or Masteron for some lean gains?
 
Faizakafez said:
good shit but a bit light, what about front loading with Test P in week 1.

also what about adding Anavar - oxandrolone - for strenght hardness and or Masteron for some lean gains?
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You know, I don't mind dosages being a bit light. My GF and job would seriously start to question. The TBOL will jump start everything like the anavar would. It gets me pretty hard actually.
 
Faizakafez said:
wks 1-10 500mg Test Enan. EOD
wks 1-10 200mg Primobolan - methenolone - EOD
wks 4-10 60mg Anavar - oxandrolone - ED
even some Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - would be nice
armi
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500mgs of test-E EOD?? Thats like over a gram a week :worried:

Primo I can't do, I get progesterone related sides very easily.
 
patsfan1379 said:
500mgs of test-E EOD?? Thats like over a gram a week :worried:

Primobolan - methenolone - I can't do, I get progesterone related sides very easily.
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typo...

okay fuck primo

and run eq
 
Weeks 1-10 500mg/week Test E
Week 1-10 EQ @ 400mg/week
Weeks 1-5 TBOL @ 50mg/day
A-Dex throughout cycle
Nolva & HCG Post

I think we're getting there.

Do I really need EQ?
 
its up to you... i mean if you drop then you have your orginal cycle anyways..

what about a short heavy cycle? like a 6 week blast?

im thinking this is tne weeker as you can see

1-10 400mg NPPew
1-10 600mg testosterone propionate ew
1-5 - Tbols or 5-10 Anavar - oxandrolone - at 60mg!!


a 6 week plast would be a bit higher dose and you'd deplete for 3 weeks prior
 
EQ at that low dose will do shit plus you need to run it longer for any real effects. Try it at 800mg per week for 16-20 weeks. Maybe even start it before the turn and test to get you eating big.

patsfan1379 said:
Weeks 1-10 500mg/week testosterone enanthate
Week 1-10 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - @ 400mg/week
Weeks 1-5 Turanabol @ 50mg/day
A-Dex throughout cycle
Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - & HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - Post

I think we're getting there.

Do I really need EQ?
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patsfan1379 said:
Fuck me running man. I'm literally 0-13 on Roulette tables at the Sun. I've walked by 13 times, slapped 50 bucks on the outside (always red) and lost 13 times.

Plus I just tried Winstrol - stanozolol for the first time, weighed myself and saw that it made me lose 5-8 pounds. FUCK. I feel skinny. I look big as fuck but if I don't see that needle on the scale point to the number I want, I feel like jumping off a bridge.

I think I'm gonna do a light testosterone cypionate and Turanabol cycle.

Hows your shit going?? Did you get alot of bloat on the testosterone cypionate??

I want about 10-12 pounds of bloatless muscle.

Please help me before I jump off said bridge.
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I'm running 400mg EW of cy.p with 600mg of E.Q and 120mg v.ar. My bloat is close to none; I filled up especially around the delts and quads (my injection sites, lol). You can easily see veins in my biceps and delts. My quads and chest don't have them sticking out yet, but you can see the veins just below the surface of my skin. I personally love c.yp.

I gained 7-10lbs of absolutely lean muscle so far.
 
btw when i rolled the dice i reached down the table with my right arm and the veins were popping out so nicely people were staring and probably wondering what a juice mongrol, he's gonna buy steroids with his winnings. they're partly right. free cycle for me!!!
 
yonkers weights said:
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - at that low dose will do shit plus you need to run it longer for any real effects. Try it at 800mg per week for 16-20 weeks. Maybe even start it before the turn and test to get you eating big.
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this is no joke, e.q. is POWERFUL in longer cycles. I'm in week 14 and I feel it working wonders, it just brings everything to the surface so to speak.
 
swole said:
I'm running 400mg EW of cy.p with 600mg of E.Q and 120mg v.ar. My bloat is close to none; I filled up especially around the delts and quads (my injection sites, lol). You can easily see veins in my biceps and delts. My quads and chest don't have them sticking out yet, but you can see the veins just below the surface of my skin. I personally love c.yp.

I gained 7-10lbs of absolutely lean muscle so far.
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You running A-De x during the cycle? H C G during? I've been reading your journal pretty heavily.
 
yonkers weights said:
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - at that low dose will do shit plus you need to run it longer for any real effects. Try it at 800mg per week for 16-20 weeks. Maybe even start it before the turn and test to get you eating big.
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squak squak....

dont gimme that bull shit with Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - running for 20 weeks craps thats just the fucking board parrot squaking recycled info..
 
patsfan1379 said:
You running A-De x during the cycle? H C G during? I've been reading your journal pretty heavily.
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i started hc.g at 500iu twice weekly at week 6 and will run it until my last injection. it has helped keep my nuts in check....i also started feeling "better" while on it as well.

no adex, i don't need it...but as always have it on hand...i avoid it because it makes me lethargic...actually i took .5mg twice during one week and it dried me up, but i'm not that bloated to begin with so i ditched it
 
swole said:
i started hc.g at 500iu twice weekly at week 6 and will run it until my last injection. it has helped keep my nuts in check....i also started feeling "better" while on it as well.

no Arimidex - anastrozole - , i don't need it...but as always have it on hand...i avoid it because it makes me lethargic...actually i took .5mg twice during one week and it dried me up, but i'm not that bloated to begin with so i ditched it
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I did T E S T E long ago and it bloated me up nice and good. Now I'm either going to take Nolva all the way through the cycle or adex through the cycle.

Which one is better on lipid profile?
 
patsfan1379 said:
My appreciation thread turned into a "build me a cycle" thread.

Thoughts?
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I think 2-weekers of tre.n @ 100mg EOD are good for me from here on out. I weigh over 200 lbs already and am reasonably lean. I like it for the strength gains, which I keep, and I don't need PCT. The only thing I deal with is increased agression for maybe a week and night sweats. It doesn't hurt my libido either, although that's kind of a non-issue lately. Fuck.
 
jnevin said:
I think 2-weekers of tre.n @ 100mg EOD are good for me from here on out. I weigh over 200 lbs already and am reasonably lean. I like it for the strength gains, which I keep, and I don't need PCT - post cycle therapy - . The only thing I deal with is increased agression for maybe a week and night sweats. It doesn't hurt my libido either, although that's kind of a non-issue lately. Fuck.
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Thoughts on MY cycle you selfish tub'o'terd
 
jnevin said:
I think 2-weekers of tre.n @ 100mg EOD are good for me from here on out. I weigh over 200 lbs already and am reasonably lean. I like it for the strength gains, which I keep, and I don't need PCT - post cycle therapy - . The only thing I deal with is increased agression for maybe a week and night sweats. It doesn't hurt my libido either, although that's kind of a non-issue lately. Fuck.
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he cant run tren,winny and some thing else dbol i think..

pats what do u have so far?

just T est E and Tbol?
 
Faizakafez said:
he cant run trenbolone,Winstrol - stanozolol and some thing else Dianabol - methandrostenolone - i think..

pats what do u have so far?

just T est E and Turanabol?
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I have nothing yet.

I'm getting T est E and T Bol. I also need A-De x, N olva and H CG
 
patsfan1379 said:
Thoughts on MY cycle you selfish tub'o'terd
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I think it's just fine, but it'll take you a while to bounce back and I hate the recovery period. I don't think you need to run so much if you just want 10 lbs out of it. You said it's been a while since you did anything, so I'd think if you maybe ran t.est e and v.ar, you'd be fine.
 
patsfan1379 said:
I have nothing yet.

I'm getting T est E and T Bol. I also need A-De x, N olva and H CG
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few q's

are you gonna do cardio? and what's ur weight at right now?

like so far thats a decent cycle but you always add something to make it better, but orals are out..

i still say give mast a try or primo
 
jnevin said:
I think it's just fine, but it'll take you a while to bounce back and I hate the recovery period. I don't think you need to run so much if you just want 10 lbs out of it. You said it's been a while since you did anything, so I'd think if you maybe ran t.est e and v.ar, you'd be fine.
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Maybe I lower my T EST dosage to 300/wk. or less... You really think it'll take a while for me to "bounce back" with H CG, and N OLVA for P CT?
 
patsfan1379 said:
Maybe I lower my T EST dosage to 300/wk. or less... You really think it'll take a while for me to "bounce back" with H CG, and N OLVA for P CT?
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I just skimmed over everything and didn't see what you settled on. If you ran E..Q it would definitely take time. I dunno, it usually took me about as long as I was on to feel 100% again. 6 months if I ran dec.a.
 
jnevin said:
I just skimmed over everything and didn't see what you settled on. If you ran E..Q it would definitely take time. I dunno, it usually took me about as long as I was on to feel 100% again. 6 months if I ran dec.a.
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So far:

Weeks 1-5: T BOL @ 50mg/day
Week 1-10: T est E @ 300mg/wk
Weeks 1-10: Nolv a @ 10mg/day or A-d ex at .25mg/day

P CT is H CG and Nolva

Thoughts?
 
patsfan1379 said:
So far:

Weeks 1-5: T BOL @ 50mg/day
Week 1-10: T est E @ 300mg/wk
Weeks 1-10: Nolv a @ 10mg/day or A-d ex at .25mg/day

P CT is H CG and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate -

Thoughts?
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pretty basic i would run aroma though 12.5mg ed its easier on cholestrol with less rebound

if your worried about being shut down or unable to revover why not run H-CG thru out the cycle?
 
patsfan1379 said:
So far:

Weeks 1-5: T BOL @ 50mg/day
Week 1-10: T est E @ 300mg/wk
Weeks 1-10: Nolv a @ 10mg/day or A-d ex at .25mg/day

P CT is H CG and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate -

Thoughts?
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Should be good for 8-10 lbs. I prefer clo.mid for p.ct, but I get all boo-hoo at dumb shit like long distance commercials. What are you at now? Ht, wt, bf est?
 
jnevin said:
Should be good for 8-10 lbs. I prefer clo.mid for p.ct, but I get all boo-hoo at dumb shit like long distance commercials. What are you at now? Ht, wt, bf est?
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tru dat ,

nev have you tried Clomid at night like taking the dose before bed they say thats better less sides but i didnt see a damn diff
 
Faizakafez said:
tru dat ,

nev have you tried Clomid at night like taking the dose before bed they say thats better less sides but i didnt see a damn diff
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I never saw one.
 
Faizakafez said:
pretty basic i would run aroma though 12.5mg ed its easier on cholestrol with less rebound

if your worried about being shut down or unable to revover why not run H-CG thru out the cycle?
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I've never been a proponent of long, large dosed cycles. I just can't deal with the ups and downs anymore. I like small, basic, low-HPTA impact cycles...
 
Faizakafez said:
pretty basic i would run aroma though 12.5mg ed its easier on cholestrol with less rebound

if your worried about being shut down or unable to revover why not run H-CG thru out the cycle?
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What is a typical dosage/schedule for running H.CG thoughout cycle?
 
patsfan1379 said:
I've never been a proponent of long, large dosed cycles. I just can't deal with the ups and downs anymore. I like small, basic, low-hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - impact cycles...
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right, so wouldnt runing hcg through the whole cycle help prevent it?
 
jnevin said:
Should be good for 8-10 lbs. I prefer clo.mid for p.ct, but I get all boo-hoo at dumb shit like long distance commercials. What are you at now? Ht, wt, bf est?
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5' 10" ~180lbs. 8-10%bf. Probably lower.

Slow, small incrmental gains are my MO.
 
patsfan1379 said:
5' 10" ~180lbs. 8-10%bf. Probably lower.

Slow, small incrmental gains are my MO.
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You'll have to eat a shitload no matter what you run if you're a hardgainer. I think I'm going to try to get down to 190 or so. That means the evil cardio. Fuck.
 
jnevin said:
You'll have to eat a shitload no matter what you run if you're a hardgainer. I think I'm going to try to get down to 190 or so. That means the evil cardio. Fuck.
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Hardgainer is an understatement.
 
patsfan1379 said:
I'm in the very beginning stages of this sweetie pie.
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lol well

id have you at

3300 kcal thats the approx maintence kcals for 200 person

Protein: 320gr
Carbs: 400gr
Fat: 46gr
 
patsfan1379 said:
Fook me Fez I'm only 180lbs.
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yea and you factor in cardio/weights...

your could drop too 3000 but if your hard gainer id go with that..

I did a lean bulk with cardio on that diet cuz my gains stagnated...
 
Faizakafez said:
yea and you factor in cardio/weights...

your could drop too 3000 but if your hard gainer id go with that..

I did a lean bulk with cardio on that diet cuz my gains stagnated...
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How much do you weigh? How was your recovery post cycle?
 
recovery wasnt bad i used tren so i was shut down a bit mind you my cock hasnt been in use for 21 some odd years so nanni was not really any issue.. if use tren id suggest running hcg thru out

i was at 175 the heaviest with abs now im cutting like a maniac

( I have a feeling you wanna keep the abs everyond does) that why you were shocked with high carb approach?

. also those are training day kcals listed abovre . on off days you would eat maintence cals of 2200 i belive is your maintence i.e carb cycling
 
Faizakafez said:
recovery wasnt bad i used trenbolone so i was shut down a bit mind you my cock hasnt been in use for 21 some odd years so nanni was not really any issue.. if use trenbolone id suggest running HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - thru out

i was at 175 the heaviest with abs now im cutting like a maniac

( I have a feeling you wanna keep the abs everyond does) that why you were shocked with high carb approach?

. also those are training day kcals listed abovre . on off days you would eat maintence cals of 2200 i belive is your maintence i.e carb cycling
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Tren makes me lose hair. Winny makes me lose weight. Progesterones just don't agree with me.
 
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