Jaqui(victim of a drunk driver) donation thread

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[Citruscide]

Sigh..

you guys need to be more updated on this case:

http://www.wattslawfirm.com/24_fuel_fire.html

GM settled with her and her family and although the amount is undisclosed, it's been reported on other sites (due to her massive publicity) to be in the tens of millions.

I don't know why they're still asking for money. What about the OTHER thousands of burn victims who didn't get money from GM or trials. Who are just as horribly burned and living in turmoil. Shouldn't that money be dispersed to them as well. What about burn victims in other countries who would LOVE to come to the US and get professional treatment, but can't, and thus suffering in agony in their home countries.

I don't question the act of helping her, i DO question society sometimes. Example: what if instead of being a beautiful young girl, it was a fat black kid in that car. Would a website about him result in all these threads and dollars into his charity account. Is his pain and suffering less important? What if it was an 12 y/o illegal mexican girl smuggled her by her family. No fault of her own. Should she get deported and suffer in her country with no medical attention, or get money from us and best care and doctors to try and put her life back together. What if it was a 67 year old man. Would society just say "ah, he's gonna croak soon anyways, let him suffer".

Too many questions. I like society sometimes to just sit back and ask these questions and think what their answers mean. Personalyl i think money should go into a NATIONAL FUND that deals specifically with burn victims. An organization that looks after people who get into such horrible circumstances and medical insurance and medicare sure won't do squat about them. For importing horribly burned victims around the world and giving them life. That would be my solution. A fund that could help this girl, and MANY girls like her across the country.

back to my coffee.

-= nav =-

I understand your point nav... but alot of burn victims don't have the extent of burns that Jaqui does... I have checked out alot of the burn treatment sites... most of the people still have jaw structure, noses, eyelids... and such..

Her body had 3rd degree burns EVERYWHERE except one theigh, buttocks, both legs from the knees down and feet. All the skin on her body other than her feet was used for grafting on hre face... it was stretched very far... and there was not enough.

Many burn victims don't lose their hands....

True, like Manny said... people get more than that for spilling hot coffee on their laps... HOT COFFEE!!!! Someone got 24 Billion because smoking caused them to get cancer... 24 Billion... that is insane... This girl, and other burn victims DID NOTHING to themselves to get that way...

C-ditty

 

[gtrcivic]

I remember seeing the story on one of the nightly news right around Christmas time. What a sad story it is. Not that it matters that she was good looking before, but what happened to her afterwards. Noone deserves the outcome she received cause some person decides to get drunk/buzzed and gets in a car to drive.

So what she received tens of millions from a settlement. Its all about the compassion you have for her as a human being. Even $5 or what you give helps. Even sending a card will brighten her day or make her feel good. What sucks is the guy is getting out in 4 yrs. He needs to get 14 years for the 2 people he killed,not concurrently serving the 7yrs.

 

[Puc]

You are so wrong here. That kid drank to much ALCOHOL, caused an accident and killed 2 people and disfigured another one. I think we are just being Influenced by the FACTS of this story. The only irresponsible thing that boy did was drink so much that he decided it was ok to drive. Jaqui has to live with the concequences of his actions. BTW since you seem to have posted the same points on another thread one would think that you have absolutly no problem with alcohol or DRUNK driving (you know driving while intoxicated, driving after drinking too much...etc).

you are a sheep.... baaaahhhh..... baaaahhhhh.....

If you studied my other post long enough to comprehend it, you would realize that I DO have a problem with drunk driving. I also have a problem with a sleep deprived truck driver running over 3 teenagers, or a man who takes his allergy medicine before driving home even though the label warns him not to.

Why does the fact that this involves alcohol instead of ambien make the kid more culpable?

This is not about alcohol, this is about irresponsible people. Dipshits like yourself who feed on one-liners like "Don't Drink And Drive" need to turn off the TV and learn how to think for yourselves.

 

[Citruscide]

you are a sheep.... baaaahhhh..... baaaahhhhh.....

If you studied my other post long enough to comprehend it, you would realize that I DO have a problem with drunk driving. I also have a problem with a sleep deprived truck driver running over 3 teenagers, or a man who takes his allergy medicine before driving home even though the label warns him not to.

Why does the fact that this involves alcohol instead of ambien make the kid more culpable?

This is not about alcohol, this is about irresponsible people. Dipshits like yourself who feed on one-liners like "Don't Drink And Drive" need to turn off the TV and learn how to think for yourselves.

Well, outside your "in your face" overtones Puc... I have to agree with you... in this case, it was a combination of a drunk driving kid and a faulty feul line...

But the same goes with ANY irresponsible driver... could just be going 100mph in a 55, or using ANYTHING that could hurt his driving abilities...

But I don't necessiarly think that saying "don't drink and drive" is a bad thing...

C-ditty

 

[Burning_Inside]

Sigh..

you guys need to be more updated on this case:

http://www.wattslawfirm.com/24_fuel_fire.html

GM settled with her and her family and although the amount is undisclosed, it's been reported on other sites (due to her massive publicity) to be in the tens of millions.

I don't know why they're still asking for money. What about the OTHER thousands of burn victims who didn't get money from GM or trials. Who are just as horribly burned and living in turmoil. Shouldn't that money be dispersed to them as well. What about burn victims in other countries who would LOVE to come to the US and get professional treatment, but can't, and thus suffering in agony in their home countries.

I don't question the act of helping her, i DO question society sometimes. Example: what if instead of being a beautiful young girl, it was a fat black kid in that car. Would a website about him result in all these threads and dollars into his charity account. Is his pain and suffering less important? What if it was an 12 y/o illegal mexican girl smuggled her by her family. No fault of her own. Should she get deported and suffer in her country with no medical attention, or get money from us and best care and doctors to try and put her life back together. What if it was a 67 year old man. Would society just say "ah, he's gonna croak soon anyways, let him suffer".

Too many questions. I like society sometimes to just sit back and ask these questions and think what their answers mean. Personalyl i think money should go into a NATIONAL FUND that deals specifically with burn victims. An organization that looks after people who get into such horrible circumstances and medical insurance and medicare sure won't do squat about them. For importing horribly burned victims around the world and giving them life. That would be my solution. A fund that could help this girl, and MANY girls like her across the country.

back to my coffee.

-= nav =-

Indubitably

 

[Juice Moose]

The paramedic should have thrown his turn out coat over the girl, it would have bought her about 30 seconds of time.

She is the most severely burned person I have ever seen, if she was related to me, I would be waiting for that asshole to get out of jail.

 

[Puc]

Well, outside your "in your face" overtones Puc... I have to agree with you... in this case, it was a combination of a drunk driving kid and a faulty feul line...

But the same goes with ANY irresponsible driver... could just be going 100mph in a 55, or using ANYTHING that could hurt his driving abilities...

But I don't necessiarly think that saying "don't drink and drive" is a bad thing...

C-ditty

well.... you know i would be nothing without obscenity and argumentative language.... i have always been a subscriber to the Patton philosophy, if i want them to rember it, say it loud and dirty.

But... I think the problem with a "don't drink and drive" message is that it contributes to the same mentality that supports prohibition. Demonize the substance, instead of the irresponsible user.

Hell, look at the thread laced with numb nuts proclaiming they are not ever going to drink again. This girl did not get fucked up because the kid drank. She got fucked up because he drove when he was not in a responsible state to do so.

The legal system and propaganda machine need to shift focus. Criminalize the action, not the substance, and use any detected substance as evidence. As it stands now, if you blow a number, you are fucked. If you are fucked up on something that does not show up in a standard urine/blood screen, you cannot be convicted of a dui. (It is practically impossible, check the stats).

If we eliminate the DUI as a criminal offense, and prosecute all offenders who are reckless under the umbrella of reckless driving, we avoid that pitfall. We raise the maximum sentence for that offence, too. Now, you may say this change would not substantively alter the way the formerly charged as dui cases would be prosecuted, and that it is in fact cosmetic. But, i think a shit in the general attitude would occur as a result.

At the very least, it aids in shifting culpability away for the chemical and towards the individual. Jesus, our whole fucking society is bent on finding ways to avoid culpability, so we get a fucked up legal system...

 

[Frackal]

true puc

 

[Citruscide]

Puc, I agree with you 100%... it's not the first time I have either... Driving while under the influence is only a small part of it... I'm no expert on the matter, but I would guess that someone driving under the influence of PCP would cause just as great a danger...

Excellant post.

C-ditty