Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
Jail for Paris Hilton!
- Thread starter FriendlyCanadian
- Start date
gotmilk said:
i can see your point. but she has to deal with pressures that most people have never endured, ie. how to handle having everything. Whilst this might sound good, it brings its own dangers/problems.
on the outside it might look like she's had it easy, but she just has had different sorts of pressures. her parents shouldve guided her better.
Bikini Mod
New member
Oceano said:
So now the taxpayers will do it.
gotmilk
New member
Oceano said:
She has zero pressure. Pressure would be the people who recently lost their jobs and are trying to figure out how to pay next months bills. Pressure would be the people in Kansas who were wiped out last night by a tornado.
This is exactly why I sometimes try to not post. I work with a foundation that has several wealthy donors. Some of these people have more money than the Hilton family (our donors are casino owners, hedge fund owners). Their kids are not fucking goofballs like Paris Hilton.
Honestly, Paris might be the one person who is the worst example of living off relatives money.
She did not have to drive with a suspended license....but she thinks her shit does not stink and she drove anyway. I feel zero pity for someone sentenced to 45 days.
InquisitivePsyche
New member
Peter cannot stand Paris. lolOceano said:
gotmilk said:
What about thre pressure of having everything? surely that brings the opposite pressures? i mean, if you have everything, what do you strive for? its no wonder she's like whats shes like. shes never had normality.
gotmilk said:
why would u 'try not to post'? i don't get it...
gotmilk said:
or maybe she made a mistake when she was drunk? but yeah, i dont approve of drunk driving either...
Paris hilton is a mistake, she got off easily the first couple times because of who she is, now it's time to do a little time for her!
yeeeaah!
yeeeaah!
gotmilk
New member
Oceano said:
Yeah...and the funny part was she tried to tell the cop she was only out to buy a hamburger. She had a suspended license, no valid inspection sticker and a past date registration.
She's not even going to jail for DUI, it's for the probation violation of driving after suspension. She has a personal assistant who could have driven her anywhere she wanted to go.
Duh
InquisitivePsyche
New member
Are you kidding me?! What a bitch. That is so low. Wow.gotmilk said:
velvett said:
Not different people, but a different category of people as a group. ITs obviously a worse punishment for celebrities to go to a normal prison than it is for a regular person. If you don't see this then you're wilfully blind.
velvett said:
^ comment says more about u tbh.
gotmilk
New member
Oceano said:
So, by your thinking, should I get special treatment if I blatantly violate the law?
She's going to jail because she violated her probation. Here's a hint, don't drive when your license is suspended.
LMAO at you thinking people need different kinds of punishments because of their social status.
By the way, other than spending daddy's money, and being a human cum sponge, what exactly has Paris done to better society????
gotmilk said:
I think he's trying to say that the people with money, social status, celebrity and copious amount of privilege may be scared for life by being *gasp* held responsible for their actions.
Poor Paris - 45 days without her blue contacts.
Someone call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHMbulance
Martha survived.
Paris will too.
gjohnson5
New member
If you're making the assumption that injustice should be spread equally , then I guess you're being consistent
How many people actually go to jail for violating probation??? That's what lawyers are for. They are masters at delaying proceedings such that probation violation is not an issue and you only face the real charge.
I'm not sure why Paris is in jail when we have murders / rapists / armed robbers on the loose and politicians talking about jail over crowding
How many people actually go to jail for violating probation??? That's what lawyers are for. They are masters at delaying proceedings such that probation violation is not an issue and you only face the real charge.
I'm not sure why Paris is in jail when we have murders / rapists / armed robbers on the loose and politicians talking about jail over crowding
velvett said:
gjohnson5 said:
Did you actually read any of my other posts?
Because you're so off.
As for lawyers - I can't personally be held responsible for them getting guilty people off for the crimes they've commited.
But you like to blame everything else on me - so go right ahead, I'm getting better at not taking your personal attacks personally.
And for the record she's not in jail...
gjohnson5
New member
It wasn't an attack at all , but if you choose to take it that way then that's on you.
I didn't blame you for anything. I was just stating the fact that stars get the book thrown at them because they are stars , not because they committed crimes. I apologize that this was not clear enough. Maybe I outta spell it out next time. Maybe you should read my posts more clearly , instead of assuming I meant to attack you
I Dunno...
And whether she is in jail now is irrelevant, she has already been sentenced to jail
I didn't blame you for anything. I was just stating the fact that stars get the book thrown at them because they are stars , not because they committed crimes. I apologize that this was not clear enough. Maybe I outta spell it out next time. Maybe you should read my posts more clearly , instead of assuming I meant to attack you
I Dunno...
And whether she is in jail now is irrelevant, she has already been sentenced to jail
velvett said:
jh1
New member
Oceano said:
I presume you are saying due to their celebrity status they will have a different, perhaps more traumatic experience due to many factors... including the possibility that they may be maltreated by other inmates, etc??
Personal experiences and how people handle it vary from person to person - that isn't any different for celebrities.
Some people handle incarceration very well, others loose their minds. Child Molesters certainly have terrbile experiences since they are confined so much in order to protect them from the other prisioners - same as Law Enforcement people that ended up corrupt.
So are you advocating that we have like differnt types of prisions to send people to depending on how they will be treated because of who they are and how they would handle it?
Please. My heart is fucking bleeding all over floor.
mightymouse69 said:
Sheesh.
Doesn't mean it's wrong to want for justice.
It's too bad that some many people fit the stereotypes we all like to deny that we place on people.
I'm always happy when someone doesn't fit the expectation place upon them as I'm disappointed when they do.
It's getting used being disappointed that's the problem.
Everyone seems to forget that Martha Stewart did jail time - so while it's likely Paris will get out her jail time it's not impossible that she could do a few weeks of her sentence.
That's not what you said at all and if that is what you meant to say it did not come out as such at all - unless you're suggesting that "Paris" equals "All stars" even then it's questionable.gjohnson5 said:
She commited multiple crimes and the judge seems to want to keep her punishment same as any one elses and that's really all that matter's to me.
If you're making the assumption that injustice should be spread equally , then I guess you're being consistent
^^^^^
Where did you get that from anything I have ever said - you twisted what I did say into something completely different - which you do all time.
Believe what you want and keep talking in those circles.
gotmilk said:
I never said she should get a different kind of punishment. I said she should be placed away from other inmates where she would undoubtedly be targeted. If not, her punishment becomes more severe.
Remember the purpose of prison is to restrict freedom and rehabilitate not to be bullied and/or assaulted.
jnevin said:
Jealous of the other princess.
jh1 said:
Thats exactly what I'm saying. Her punishment does not then fit the crime in the same way it would other people.
jh1 said:
Just a different area of the prison where she can't be abused would suffice.
U may not like Paris but imagine the situation where it was a celebrity who you did like...
velvett said:
OK.
I'm blind.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
, wilfully blind is a legal term. You really do seem quite a hyped/defensive person. Do you hate Paris Hilton that much?
gjohnson5
New member
The purpose of prison is to rehabilitate....
I will agree that they are meant to restrict freedoms , but not sure about the rehabilitation part
I will agree that they are meant to restrict freedoms , but not sure about the rehabilitation part
Oceano said:I never said she should get a different kind of punishment. I said she should be placed away from other inmates where she would undoubtedly be targeted. If not, her punishment becomes more severe.
Remember the purpose of prison is to restrict freedom and rehabilitate not to be bullied and/or assaulted.
Jealous of the other princess.
gotmilk
New member
gjohnson5 said:
Quite a few actually. If you go back a few, I posted where not only was she on probation, she drove her car without a valid license, an expired registration, and even had the balls to park her car in a handicapped spot. The police were responding a complaint about a mercedes in a handicapped spot when she pulled out, weaved down the road, and nearly hit a parked car.
Cops bagged her big time. Paris even tried to tell the cops she had only pulled over to buy a hamburger.
gotmilk
New member
Oceano said:
Did she have to drive again? Probably not. However, I'm pretty sure the jail she is headed to will not leave her in a cell with a roommate named Birtha who wants to carpet munch Paris to death.
I'm personally against giving celebs a cush sentence. Don't be a goofball if you cannot handle doing the time.
gjohnson5
New member
I understand. But the lawyer could have delayed the proceeding until she got off probation. It's A Common tactic. When the violation goes to court , it's not a probation violation because the person gets a letter from the original jurisdiction (if it's different) saying they are off probation...
*edit*
If the same jurisdiction , you just gotta hope they don't find out you got in trouble...
*edit*
But this option may have been taken away so that Los Angeles can get on TV showing how hard they were on a celebrity. Ever since the OJ LA district Attorney office has thrown the book at celebrities
*edit*
If the same jurisdiction , you just gotta hope they don't find out you got in trouble...
*edit*
But this option may have been taken away so that Los Angeles can get on TV showing how hard they were on a celebrity. Ever since the OJ LA district Attorney office has thrown the book at celebrities
gotmilk said:
gotmilk said:
You're getting away from the point that her punishment is more severe because she is likely to be targeted.
Lets face it, Paris is the absolute antithesis of your regular female criminal. She has been privileged, white, rich etc whilst they have been the absolute opposite. Shes gonna be hated.
I don't see how moving her to a different part of the prison is 'cush'.
gotmilk
New member
gjohnson5 said:
It has nothing to do with a court proceeding.
She was caught driving with a suspended license. Her license had been suspended from a previous DUI. How can a lawyer delay a probation that she was already on????? Do you think a black girl, working a regular job, would have been given probation for multiple DUI convictions? Paris has been repeatedly given breaks before because of her so called celebrity status.
Not only was she in violation of her previous probation, she was driving impared, driving without a license, driving a vehicle with an expired registration, and had parked her car in a handicapped zone. She first lied claiming she was out buying a burger, then claimed she had one drink and had not eaten all day....then claimed she was simply exhausted from being in a recording studio all night. She repeatedly lied to the arresting cop.
You avoid violating your probation by not driving. In fact, driving under suspension is a huge problem here in the U.S.
How did the DA throw the book at someone who had blatantly ignored a court order not drive via suspension?
gjohnson5
New member
I didnt say delay a probation. If you get caught driving with a suspended license , you are getting charged with that crime and you are going to court.
Some places you may only get a ticket , but I would bet in LA, you get arrested and booked at the police station for that.
Just get a lawyer and the court date for the driving under suspended license can be delayed. The delay can be years...
Some places you may only get a ticket , but I would bet in LA, you get arrested and booked at the police station for that.
Just get a lawyer and the court date for the driving under suspended license can be delayed. The delay can be years...
gotmilk said:
Poor Poor Paris
<embed width="448" height="365" src="http://www.ifilm.com/efp" quality="high" bgcolor="000000" name="efp" align="middle" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" flashvars="flvbaseclip=2820192" ></embed>
<embed width="448" height="365" src="http://www.ifilm.com/efp" quality="high" bgcolor="000000" name="efp" align="middle" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" flashvars="flvbaseclip=2820174" ></embed>
<embed width="448" height="365" src="http://www.ifilm.com/efp" quality="high" bgcolor="000000" name="efp" align="middle" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" flashvars="flvbaseclip=2820192" ></embed>
<embed width="448" height="365" src="http://www.ifilm.com/efp" quality="high" bgcolor="000000" name="efp" align="middle" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" flashvars="flvbaseclip=2820174" ></embed>
gjohnson5
New member
Now to address the race part of this, which I doubt noone will say gotmilk played the race card
I don't know of anyone who didn't get probation for a DUI.... That could be a black , white , red , yellow , blue , green , purple, poke-a-dot , plaid , paisley , or striped girl for that matter. If you get 3 DUI's , then you will be on probation 3 different times.
If she had multiple offenses , then yes , the judge will give her a stiffer sentence, but I didn't read anywhere that she had multiple DUI's
I don't know of anyone who didn't get probation for a DUI.... That could be a black , white , red , yellow , blue , green , purple, poke-a-dot , plaid , paisley , or striped girl for that matter. If you get 3 DUI's , then you will be on probation 3 different times.
If she had multiple offenses , then yes , the judge will give her a stiffer sentence, but I didn't read anywhere that she had multiple DUI's
gotmilk said:
gotmilk
New member
gjohnson5 said:
Here in Maine, operating after suspension is an automatic arrest and minimum 10 day jail sentence. It's a major problem here.
Her license suspension was for 90 days. You can't delay a court ordered suspension. The terms of her previous DUI conviction were: $400 fine, 90 day suspension, probation versus jail sentence.
All she had to do was wait for her suspension to expire and not drive impared again. She broke both terms.
I think you missed the point that she was already convicted on her previous DUI. Her lawyers plead the above terms.
Do you think you would have been given the same terms for a second DUI conviction?
gotmilk
New member
gjohnson5 said:
Of course I played the race card, you understood what I was saying. White rich chick gets slapped on the wrist for second DUI conviction.
If you get three DUI's, you are not getting probation, you are going to jail for a short persiod of time and losing your license. 3 DUI's here in Maine is a 540 day license suspension
G
Gambino
Guest
3 dwis in michigan-felony
gjohnson5
New member
In order to get a Court ordered suspension you have to be given a court date , correct? Yes , her lawyer was given a court date by LA district court (whatever that might be). I have never heard of a county where court dates can't be delayed by a lawyer. That's just part of the legal system.
No need to get moral on me. I understand that she could have simply stopped driving drunk on a suspended license. But that's not what happened and I'm just trying to understand why all of this happened so quickly
No need to get moral on me. I understand that she could have simply stopped driving drunk on a suspended license. But that's not what happened and I'm just trying to understand why all of this happened so quickly
gotmilk said:
gotmilk
New member
gjohnson5 said:
No.
In order to get a suspension, you have to be convicted. She was convicted in late 2006 of DUI. Her attorney obtained a plea agreement on her behalf. $400 cash fine, 90 day license suspension, 90 day probation, and alcohol treatment (like a one day class).
She violated the terms of her probation by driving during the 90 day imposed period.
The judge asked Paris why she ignored the letter from the Department of Motor Vehicles. Her exact answer was "she pays people to read her mail and did not see the letter".
The judge asked Paris why she ignored her own attorney's plea bargin. Paris told the judge "she did not have time to speak with them".
gjohnson5
New member
I disagree dude. You need to read your local laws. When you get arrested for a dui , there is an automatic suspension at the DMV not the court. The department of motor vehicles is not a court.... All DMV's have a stipulation on the drivers license that say you will take a sobriety test or lose your license. That is not a court ordered suspenion.
gotmilk said:
Timeline
9/06 Arrested For Dui
1/07
Entered A Plea Of No Contest
Lesser Charge Of Reckless Driving
Convicted For Reckless Driving
Placed On 36 Months Probation
Multiple Fines
Attend An Alcohol Education Program
License Suspension
1/07
Caught Driving With A License
2/07
Caught Driving Without A License, Speeding And Driving At Night Without Headlights
Above Items Are Why She Found Herself Back In Court
5/07
Went To Court To Argue That She Did Not Know That Her License Was Suspended
Paperwork Stating Such Was In Her Car
Sentenced To 45 Days In Jail For Violating Probation
As A No Show She Will Get 90 Days And Additional Fines
Neglected To Enroll In An Alcohol Treatment Program…
Ordered To Abstain From Consuming Alcohol For 90 Days
Wear A Scram Ankle Bracelet To Prove It
Suspended License Suspended Additional 120 Days
Impound Car For 30 Days
9/06 Arrested For Dui
1/07
Entered A Plea Of No Contest
Lesser Charge Of Reckless Driving
Convicted For Reckless Driving
Placed On 36 Months Probation
Multiple Fines
Attend An Alcohol Education Program
License Suspension
1/07
Caught Driving With A License
2/07
Caught Driving Without A License, Speeding And Driving At Night Without Headlights
Above Items Are Why She Found Herself Back In Court
5/07
Went To Court To Argue That She Did Not Know That Her License Was Suspended
Paperwork Stating Such Was In Her Car
Sentenced To 45 Days In Jail For Violating Probation
As A No Show She Will Get 90 Days And Additional Fines
Neglected To Enroll In An Alcohol Treatment Program…
Ordered To Abstain From Consuming Alcohol For 90 Days
Wear A Scram Ankle Bracelet To Prove It
Suspended License Suspended Additional 120 Days
Impound Car For 30 Days
gotmilk
New member
gjohnson5 said:
Partly true. You are getting an automatic suspension. The courts have the right to name the amount of time your license is suspended. The courts can increase or decrease the amount of time your license is suspended. The court ordered her to 90 days. That's a fact GJohnson. It was part of her plea agreement in 2006.
gjohnson5
New member
I remember a judge ordered a person I knew license suspended for life in Louisiana. But a judge did that after a court date.
*edit*
The kid had 4 dui's before he turned legal drinking age
*edit*
This is totally different from the mandatory suspensions done on dmv computers. The interesting this is that most people don't read thier driving books in their local areas to see the automatic suspensions applied to DUI first offense , second offense and third +. read your driving book in your area. it's in the book and that is not a court ordered suspension
*edit*
The kid had 4 dui's before he turned legal drinking age
*edit*
This is totally different from the mandatory suspensions done on dmv computers. The interesting this is that most people don't read thier driving books in their local areas to see the automatic suspensions applied to DUI first offense , second offense and third +. read your driving book in your area. it's in the book and that is not a court ordered suspension
gotmilk said:
gotmilk
New member
velvett said:
Yeah, plus in 2005, she blew a .08 and was pled to a driving under impairment versus DUI. She also hit a parked car in a parking garage and drove off. She was later charged with a couple other things including leaving the scene of an accident, failure to report accident, etc
gjohnson5
New member
I'm calling them automatic suspensions , because I know that (well atleast in Louisiana) a DUI can be reduced to wreckless driving and your license can be "unsuspended"
So those suspensions are part of the waiver you are supposed to know about when you take a driving test
So those suspensions are part of the waiver you are supposed to know about when you take a driving test
gotmilk said:
Oceano said:
And you do the very opposite without knowing her...
what's the difference?
I feel for her getting the original DUI - she's quite slender and it wouldn't take much to fail the BA test.
It's her behavior and complete disregard for everything that is appalling. She may very well be a very sweet girl but mommy and daddy created a monster that will never choose to or have to take responsibility for their actions.
Beside were you crying for Michelle Rodriguez when she had to do jail time?
(she too didn't actually do any - no space for her)
gotmilk
New member
So I've read alot of interesting things in these last five pages.
It really makes me curious as to what her lawyers were doing if anything? like is there honestly nothing she could have done with a handful of lawyers to prevent or delay this a bit. I know it sounds to late now because she is sentanced which is awesome.
I'm just becoming more suspicious as to why she didn't use a small army of lawyers?
maybe this is some joke to her now.
Those videos that velvett posted were pretty appauling.
It really makes me curious as to what her lawyers were doing if anything? like is there honestly nothing she could have done with a handful of lawyers to prevent or delay this a bit. I know it sounds to late now because she is sentanced which is awesome.
I'm just becoming more suspicious as to why she didn't use a small army of lawyers?
maybe this is some joke to her now.
Those videos that velvett posted were pretty appauling.
b0und
New member
gjohnson5 said:
Right on.
Prison/jail time should be reserved first and foremost for criminals who harm others. Rapists, child abusers, violent crims - lock them up first. Not people who violate probation on traffic offences (even if they were DUI), nobody came to physical harm as a result of any of her actions.
By the way, I still find Paris very obnoxious - but then again I find a lot of celebrities obnoxious and up themselves, that's not a reason to punish somebody though.
b0und (sick of celebreties and the attention they hog in the media)
plifter
Banned
I honestly feel that 45 days in jail is an appropriate punishment. She's shown that she can't be trusted to abide by the terms of a lesser sentence. She was supposed to go to alcohol rehab as part of her original sentence. She didn't do it. She wasn't supposed to drive. She drove anyway. Not only did she drive, but she got busted for speeding. She must have thought the judge was joking when he handed down her original punishment. Once she hears the clanging of the cell door behind her, she will probably start taking the law more seriously.
By the way, her mom sounds like an idiot for asking the prosecutor for an autograph and laughing during testimony. My guess is her mom damaged her daughter's case by her actions.
By the way, her mom sounds like an idiot for asking the prosecutor for an autograph and laughing during testimony. My guess is her mom damaged her daughter's case by her actions.
FriendlyCanadian said:
Well her mother was quoted to say (I can't recall where - one of the recent articles) something to the effect "after all the money we spent" (IE: legal fees)
Her entire family excuses Paris for everything that she does or anything that happens to her that she's just a victim of mean jealous people and people are just against her because of who she is... with a family like hers - she did not have a chance but to become exactly who she is and even on this thread people still make excuses for her and people like her.
Mind Boggling.
You might have been the only person to watch those videos - I was hoping the racist screaming, racism sensitive crowd here would have seen another side to poor little Paris.
But I've been wrong before.
velvett said:
I think everyone should watch those video's everyone who thinks paris hilton has any class, which is glaring apparent in those video's that she has none.
Zero class, Zero tact, Zero taste.
she's like an incredibly rich heathen.
she lives a pretty sad life, I don't care how much money she has.
she'll probably live the rest of her life with the morals and values she has, throwing insults like "public school child".
Pretty sad waste of space and she's breathing our air.
S
Spartacus
Guest
Partypause für Paris Hilton: Die 26 Jahre alte Hotelerbin muss für 45 Tage hinter Gitter, weil sie trotz einer laufenden Bewährungsstrafe mehrfach ohne Führerschein erwischt worden ist.
Spartacus said:
can someone please translate this?
pintoca
New member
her mother should go on trial now for insulting a judge (at least contempt of court, isn't called that??? Where is Heather when one needs her)
Anyway, that is one Lawyer who wanted to make a career/name by saving poor Paris... sure is fucked now... I can imagine all the celebrities after they fuck up with the Law: "Hun, get me a lawyer, but don't call the Paris one, that one sure fucked up good"
Anyway, that is one Lawyer who wanted to make a career/name by saving poor Paris... sure is fucked now... I can imagine all the celebrities after they fuck up with the Law: "Hun, get me a lawyer, but don't call the Paris one, that one sure fucked up good"
redguru
New member
FriendlyCanadian said:
it's really just a lead paragraph. Dude, babelfish is your friend. Here is it's translation.
Party break for Paris Hilton: The 26 years old hotel heiress must for 45 days behind lattices, because it was gotten several times despite a current probation sentence without driving licence.
gotmilk
New member
velvett said:
Her Aunt Tia has magical powers that can make cops disappear
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/1150/3gmbc-KimRichards_slide_1979-4.jpg
Similar threads
