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- Thread starter tehkevroy
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try shrugging with both...
you are probably nitpicking.
my left chest is bigger than my right chest,
my right arm is bigger than my left arm
my left calf is bigger than my right calf
my right thigh is bigger than my left thigh
my left delt is bigger/more devloped than my right delt
and some days my left lat is bigger, and other days my right lat is....
just keep lifting hard and with good form, and things will work itself out over time
you are probably nitpicking.
my left chest is bigger than my right chest,
my right arm is bigger than my left arm
my left calf is bigger than my right calf
my right thigh is bigger than my left thigh
my left delt is bigger/more devloped than my right delt
and some days my left lat is bigger, and other days my right lat is....
just keep lifting hard and with good form, and things will work itself out over time
captainahole
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chaos13 said:
Maybe he's right ugly and doesn't like looking in the mirror.
Canadians mockin Canadian's huh?
captainahole
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It's funny how one type of exercise will work for one person and not another.
point is I did dumbbell shrugs for the longest time and never had any real benefit from them.
I like heavy barbell shrugs and change my grip with each set to make sure I hit them evenly.
point is I did dumbbell shrugs for the longest time and never had any real benefit from them.
I like heavy barbell shrugs and change my grip with each set to make sure I hit them evenly.
tehkevroy said:
I agree with sublimezm. Don't nitpick about that minor stuff if you aren't aspiring to be the next Mr. Olympia. You will be amazed how many flaws you can find on your body if you think about that stuff too much. If you are not happy about your trap development do power shrugs or high pulls. Explosive oly lifts are kings for trap development. Of course, I'm automatically assuming you are gaining weight and increasing your big lifts.
deathdroprob
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Use a Double Over hand grip, or switch your grip every rep. I can feel certain side work better with certain grips.
silver_shadow
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i don't know i do barbell jump shrugs with nearly 450lbs with a double overhand grip and i have no issues.OMEGA said:
anyway - i think you shouldn't be nitpicking. just get bigger and things will even out within the limits of your genetically determined shape (with it's inherent asymmetry).
Agreed.
al420
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OMEGA said:
My traps are large. I only do dynamic pulls like Jump Shrugs or Snatch Grip High Pulls, etc.
DB shrugs are pointless. I do my shrugs w/ 500+ lbs and do sets of 12-15... how the hell am I supposed to do that w/ DB's? My gym only has 150's and I can rep those little bitches for 50 I would bet.
Sorry guys, but most people w/ BIG traps do loads of pulling from the floor... with Barbells.
Men = BB, Women = DB, Gay = Hammer Strength.
al420
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What I enjoy are the guys that roll there shoulders back, in a circular motion....so they get a full ROM. LOL. THat is priceless.
Deadlift, BB row, and Jump Shrug for 60 days. Take some dbol if you have it. Get some bigger t-shirts, you will need them.
I also think overhead squats are great for trap development. That is what is so great about training the Olympic lifts. Damn near every movement has trap in it. The top of the jerk, cleans, etc. Pretty much we get 4 sessions a week of pulling from the floor.
Deadlift, BB row, and Jump Shrug for 60 days. Take some dbol if you have it. Get some bigger t-shirts, you will need them.
I also think overhead squats are great for trap development. That is what is so great about training the Olympic lifts. Damn near every movement has trap in it. The top of the jerk, cleans, etc. Pretty much we get 4 sessions a week of pulling from the floor.
silver_shadow
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one tool came up to me and told me that i could injure my shoulders doing it straight up and down... then told me i was cheating by using leg momentum!al420 said:
CORPORATEBEAST said:
In my opinion...
1) Heavy freaking weights make the traps grow...really heavy weights.
2) Try doing some holds for time with a REALLY heavy machine or Dbells. I have a car deadlift set-up with side handles that will fry my traps. Same with farmers walks.
I can't remember when I trained my traps. More than a decade maybe? It is one of the body parts people notice most on me. I'm also shooting to pull more than 730 raw before 2008.
dunno, I like DBs also.
Agree with most others that traps are best built through heavy pulls. But this is something we do in the gym on a regular basis. If I feel the need for extra work I get bored and uncomfortable using the barbell to mimic the same motion I get from a pull.
DBs give me a different plane, a lot less wear and tear. I do the BBing thing of controlled motion and slow count of 3 at the top.
I like BFold's idea of static holds though ideally my gym would need one of those car DL set-ups. Guess I'll have to stay with the dumbells.
Agree with most others that traps are best built through heavy pulls. But this is something we do in the gym on a regular basis. If I feel the need for extra work I get bored and uncomfortable using the barbell to mimic the same motion I get from a pull.
DBs give me a different plane, a lot less wear and tear. I do the BBing thing of controlled motion and slow count of 3 at the top.
I like BFold's idea of static holds though ideally my gym would need one of those car DL set-ups. Guess I'll have to stay with the dumbells.
al420
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OMEGA said:
Oh Omega....
Let's pretend for a second that "trap work" is not an assistance lift to a real lift.
Last time I checked Shrugs were just an accessory lift to a good Oly routine. Let's give credit where credit is due. NONE of these lifts were desigend for looks, but for strength.
As far as for a BB... well, I don;t know what to do for big weak traps. Just dense powerful ones.
Just my .02 of course.
you can have Powerful Traps that you train with more Finesse' for a look
Just like people who can bench the world but are not going to have the chest that LOOKS like a bodybuilders
some athletes focus on aesthetics as their goal, some power lifts
oh al420 I am not quite sure you have such discontent for us athletes that have the goal of art
Just like people who can bench the world but are not going to have the chest that LOOKS like a bodybuilders
some athletes focus on aesthetics as their goal, some power lifts
oh al420 I am not quite sure you have such discontent for us athletes that have the goal of art
Mercere said:
I try not to. People ask me all the time what I do for chest and traps...as well as arms. Strange thing is...I don't train traps, chest, or biceps.
I think that if I wanted to look more like a bodybuilder...I'd train like I do now for 3-4 weeks and then 1-2 weeks with some isolation and rep stuff involved.
Tweakle
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If you have access to one, the hex shrug bar is great for shrugs if you don't want to load the lower back, or skin your thighs, bang your nuts or take the skin off the top of your thumbs.
I like to do a couple of high rep sets on days I'm not deadlifting, works the muscles in a different way
I like to do a couple of high rep sets on days I'm not deadlifting, works the muscles in a different way
I agree with OMEGA, bodybuilding is not about lifting heavy, its about looking good.If you wanna lift heavy, you can do powerlifting.
The_Alcatraz said:
For sure bodybuilding is not about numbers...but holding onto really freaking heavy weights will totally fry your upper back.
I'll try to find a decent recent pic of me.
Bodybuilding has its own olympics....it's a sport dude...
al420
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The_Alcatraz said:
HAHAHAHAHA - When the Olympia is anything close to the Olympics I'll let you know. That is a sad, pathetic joke.
SOme one tell the Romans about BB - they would have loved it.
Besides - this is a trap thread, not a BB thread.....
Some people want big arms; we want big traps. Those with big arms will deny it, but they all secretly harbor wishes of a neck that is non-existant.
al420
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OMEGA said:
That is awesome!
A BB competes. He is an Athlete, and is in a sport.
A gym rat does drop sets, takes over a gram a week of test, and can't rep his BW on bench. He does drop sets, but not for the blood volume effect that makes others puke their guts out, just till it hurts his little muscles. He is not an athelte, and needs to know it.
I take huge offense to non-competitive folks trying to compare/contrast what they do to what we do. It is SO FAR from the same.
OMEGA said:Sure it is, it requires Performance of the body AND the mind and people often Compete like a "sport"
I played a game of "HORSE" against my wife a few weeks ago on the basketball court. Does that make me a basketball player?
Seriously though...till someone competes, they aren't a Bodybuilder.
hey guys i just weighted myself I was 168 lbs before i start the interm 5x5 now i'm 174 lbs awesome gain !!!! well i added one day for bb curl skullcrusher and stuff like it !!! im so happy of gain 
this website have put me in the way to grow faster than before I LOVE U ALL
this website have put me in the way to grow faster than before I LOVE U ALLb fold the truth said:
a basket ball player is a basket ball player BEFORE they get in the NBA
don't be as hard headed as the others Bfold
The power Lifting Brick Heads that dont appreciate BODYBUILDERS who last MUCH longer then they do ( longevity) get VERY flustered when someone best them when YEARs form now they are stonger and much better looking.
al420 said:I am kinda like a Bull - a Steer if you will. But see myself much more as just an Alpha Male in a society of Omega Women.
That was pretty funny....
I tell you what, I would bet you good money you would not speak to people liek that in person
you "alpha male" lol
its OK I'll sit here and years from now when you sign up for the OMEGA project
I will gladly help a lost soul, so long as you say sorry for your current douch baggery now
silver_shadow
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some of them diet down and kick ass on the bodybuilding stage actually!OMEGA said:
OMEGA said:
The NBA and being a "basketball player" have little to do with each other.
People saying that they are "bodybuilding" is something used very loosely. I was promoting what you were saying, when I quoted you. Those that compete...are competitors in the Sport of Bodybuilding. I agree 100% with that.
A 155 lb guy who tells me that they are doing "bodybuilding" when they need to be "laying the foundation for years to come so that they can someday step foot on a stage" bothers me. I hear it all the time here (I run a supplement shop and spend a lot of time working with people in gyms as well as gym owners).
I for sure don't have what it takes to be a bodybuilder, it isn't the "type of sport" that thrills me. I like to go out and get dirty and "play with my events" and it makes me feel good about what I do. I have been doing A LOT of reps lately. Like a 7.5 minute set of atlas stones, or shooting for some 20 rep front squat set goals, or lots of circuit leg training (that can last upwards of 20 minutes) and the rewards have been great for my size and my strength.
Two different type of people come up to me and ask the same question..."How can I build my traps?" and I have different answers.
1) 155 lb guy who might look like he lifts weights when he takes his shirt off and I will say "deadlift heavy weights"
2) Mr. Cyprus (where I live) who looks amazing from head to toe and I say "You mean whatever you are doing isn't working great?".
I guess that the point that I want to make is the advice that you give completely depends on the person asking the question. The beginner needs to be doing basic movements that will make his entire body grow. The actual bodybuilder may end up overtraining the rest of his body by doing really heavy movements (i.e. he may end up overworking his back and not able to do his normal routine).
But 99% of the "so called bodybuilders" that I meet would love to have traps, arms, and a chest like mine...and I don't train any of them directly. That part they can't find a way to put in their minds at all.
You know I'm not hard headed...just don't ask my wife!
al420 said:
High pulls are the shit. As are overhead squats and one arm bb snatches. All three of these will blow your upper back up like no other. Does anyone do Hise Shrugs? High rep shrugs on the standing calf raise machine... Killer Shit
Fuck I just read through all of these post and this shit is out of hand.
Trendsetter21
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b fold the truth said:
I agree and disagree with this statement. I think we are getting confused with the word bodybuilder. Regular people do bodybuilding in my opinion. That is way different than being a "Professional Bodybuilder" As you can see you have to add the professional as bodybuilding is basically training to change your body which in itself is an art and a science. Again the comparing the two sports doesn't make sense because they are trying to accomplish two different goals. I for one love both, you can learn from both of their training methods and use them together to become the next Mariusz Pudzianowski! Seriously if I showed pictures of Mariusz Pudzianowski to normal people they would say he was a bodybuilder not a powerlifter. He really is the perfect example that you don't have to lift light to look like that..........."although it might just be because he has perfect genetics lol" I really don't think the original post was about should I do bodybuilding workout or powerlifter. He needs help with his traps.............so give trap advice and let him try a few things and see what works for him. I have actually seen more trap growth and calf growth from lower weight higher reps than I did when I trained them heavy. Hell I can't explain it but it works for me. I wish the name calling and fighting would stop. Everyone has a right to their own opinions on training and calling someone gay or anything else like that is out of line. First off whenever most people talk about "gays" its because they are a closet homosexual and afraid of what they are. I know a lot of gay men and women and I could care less what sexual orientation or whatever your deal is. If your a good person you are a good person. There shouldn't be a label to it. If you are an asshole.............YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE. Plain and simple. Bashing people on an internet chat board and acting tough is a great laugh, especially calling people out to fights......like they are really going to waste their time and drive across 3 states to fight over an internet chat. Sometimes people just need to grow up. This isn't high school. Give your opinions about training and leave your opinions about other people to yourselves.
Trendsetter21 said:
Pudz has competed in boxing and Strongman...I'd say he is both. He has never competed in Powerlifting, therefore he is not a powerlifter. If you have never dieted and stepped on stage (no matter how bad or good you look) you are not a bodybuilder...you just lift weights to look good.
Adding the word "Pro" to the beginning of their Title is a different ball game. I earned my right to be a Pro, so did he and other Pro's.
Playing Basketball and BEING a Basket Ball Player are two different things.
As far as lifting light and growing traps...I suggested timed holds with very heavy weights. A timed hold doesn't usually last the time of a 1RepMax, it would last as long or longer than a 10-20 rep set...say a minute or more. Time under Tension! It works, at least as much as every other good variation.
Last time I read through this thread...there are a couple suggestions on how he can train. Dbells, Barbells, Machines, Trap Bar, Holds, Farmers Walks, etc...so many different way to keep his traps occupied that they should never stop growing.
al420
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I really think dynamic pulls do more than static holds. Are you saying for trap strength, or growth? I do statics, but didn;t do them till I had big traps.
I think the Jump Shrug is the best overall lift (assuming I could only do one). The load is unequaled, and to me that is what matters.
If the original poster has small traps he would benefit the most from overload. CNS can't like these.
I think the Jump Shrug is the best overall lift (assuming I could only do one). The load is unequaled, and to me that is what matters.
If the original poster has small traps he would benefit the most from overload. CNS can't like these.
al420 said:
Just putting on a pair of straps and picking up say a weight that is nice and heavy for you after 30 seconds of holding...arms long and down. Farmers Walk Implements are best for this since they take a lot of the hold/stress off the lower back.
I can't get the Jump Shrug at all...I look like an idiot trying!
jumpmaster82
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i do both db and barbell shrugs. and i do cable shrugs. and as for your right trap being bigger than the left, its possible that your using your right more the left. that tends to happen, your body will naturally favor your strong side(ie if your right handed youll favor right side left handed favor left side). but your traps probly dont look that much different, us BBers rather pro or amateur tend to critisize our bodys to much. its probly not noticeable to people.
al420 said:
I'll try them next week and try to get some video for you to look at (I keep video logs of every workout session I do). Been pretty under the weather the past week (all of my joints are swollen huge) so I may have to start light. Form is pretty key.
I'm curious to the original poster if he has any type of sway in his back? Curve?
