It's either GH or Primo

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Need to make a decision on which to get. Can't be both unfortunately, so I need to choose. The amount of GH would be 600i.u's. The amount of Primo would be 120 amps of 100ml Schering. Let's see, please only respond if you have taken either GH OR Primo. I don't want to hear from people who "want to try these two but haven't yet" etc. I'd like to hear from people who have used either both of these or one or the other once or multiple times. Help me make a decision!

P.S. I have plenty of AAS to use if I chose GH, ie. Test, Tren
The plan with the GH is to run 2iu's for 300 days
The plan with Primo is to do either two cycles of 500mg ew or 1g ew X 12

K to all, and please hit me back with some cuz I bet too much on MLB games on the Bookie Forum

 

[Indy]

Need to make a decision on which to get. Can't be both unfortunately, so I need to choose. The amount of GH would be 600i.u's. The amount of Primo would be 120 amps of 100ml Schering. Let's see, please only respond if you have taken either GH OR Primo. I don't want to hear from people who "want to try these two but haven't yet" etc. I'd like to hear from people who have used either both of these or one or the other once or multiple times. Help me make a decision!

P.S. I have plenty of AAS to use if I chose GH, ie. Test, Tren
The plan with the GH is to run 2iu's for 300 days
The plan with Primo is to do either two cycles of 500mg ew or 1g ew X 12

K to all, and please hit me back with some cuz I bet too much on MLB games on the Bookie Forum

What are you looking for DBB ?? As you know from our past conversations I have done a few heftly Primo and HGH cycles last 2 years...... Honestly despite what you are looking for, I just dropped my gh in the 6th month of this cycle. Overall besides the immediate leanness I saw on gh, primo is my way to go...no sides, works on lower calorie diets, makes me look awesome whether I am lifting or now, very hard, very vasclular, very full muscles. I am off training from tendon injury right now, and I am taking primo just to maintain, most people cannot tell I am not lifting anymore .......after 6 months gh really seems to start hurting me too much, wrists and elbows were killing me, my vote will most likely go primo regardless of your full goals, but that's just me speaking from TONS of research

 

[courtneybcca]

I am going to agree with indy... I have been on primo right now for 8 weeks and love it! I have not had any sides whatsoever... I am not sure what your goals are but I am on a VERY low cal, high protein diet, right now I am cutting.. I am taking the primo to keep my muscle mass but I have actually gained muscle since I have been on.. Which for me is incredible.. I a only taking in about 700-1200 calories per day and somehow gaining... primo is incredible!! I havenot tired hgh but from what I have heard of the sides I wont.. Plus from talking with different peeps it seems you have to be on it like a year or so to really see any changes.. just my 2 cents...

 

[mposster]

i would say go with the HGH.....600iu's you would not even recognize yourself....

Need to make a decision on which to get. Can't be both unfortunately, so I need to choose. The amount of GH would be 600i.u's. The amount of Primo would be 120 amps of 100ml Schering. Let's see, please only respond if you have taken either GH OR Primo. I don't want to hear from people who "want to try these two but haven't yet" etc. I'd like to hear from people who have used either both of these or one or the other once or multiple times. Help me make a decision!

P.S. I have plenty of AAS to use if I chose GH, ie. Test, Tren
The plan with the GH is to run 2iu's for 300 days
The plan with Primo is to do either two cycles of 500mg ew or 1g ew X 12

K to all, and please hit me back with some cuz I bet too much on MLB games on the Bookie Forum

 

[Makavelli]

i would say go with the HGH.....600iu's you would not even recognize yourself....

I agree. If you're looking to put on size, I'd go with GH, test, and the tren. If it's just fat loss then Primo.

 

[Slydog]

I both agree and disagree with Indy. If your prone to the sides of HGH then yeah go with the primo because I know some cats have tremendous difficulties with the sides. I on the other hand do not experience the sides like others do. With growth I stay on year round and I can literally eat anything and everything and still be lean. My muscles actually feel fuller while on growth. My suggestion if you chose the HGH is to up your ius from 2 to 6 while cycling AAS. Take 3ius twice a day. Just my 2 cents.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I agree. If you're looking to put on size, I'd go with GH, test, and the tren. If it's just fat loss then Primo.

Well I want more muscle than fat loss. Don't get me wrong, i wanted the GH for the muscle AND fat loss, I'm not lean enough yet to be totally satisfied I need to drop about 5%bf to get the six pack/obliques rockin. My plan was to do the 600iu's@2ius ed for 300days...All I've heard is the longer your ON GH, the better results. Is this true at even 2iu ed for 300 days which is roughly 10 months....

Makavelli, ok if you had only 600iu's and pretend you were me, had Plenty of Test and Tren...how would your cycle look like, please mix it up exactly how you'd do it if you had 600iu's Gh, Test E 250mg 60cc's, Tren-about 40cc's 120mg homebrew...there you go, help a brotha out please!

 

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Interesting question. I have not taken primo. It sounds great. I have been taking 2 Iu's of GU for about 12 weeks. I am also on a moderate Test/deca Cycle. GH works synergistically with Test, and you keep your AAS gains better if you are on GH. Cost is another factor that you need to weigh in. GH has many other non bodybuiding benefits as well ( lowers BP, betters Cholestorol,
better sleep. feeling of well being, better hair/skin). Jury is still out for me on GH. I am willing to give it a year, and I will contitue with Test/Deca cycles in between. You really cant lose either way

Steve

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

What are you looking for DBB ?? As you know from our past conversations I have done a few heftly Primo and HGH cycles last 2 years...... Honestly despite what you are looking for, I just dropped my gh in the 6th month of this cycle. Overall besides the immediate leanness I saw on gh, primo is my way to go...no sides, works on lower calorie diets, makes me look awesome whether I am lifting or now, very hard, very vasclular, very full muscles. I am off training from tendon injury right now, and I am taking primo just to maintain, most people cannot tell I am not lifting anymore .......after 6 months gh really seems to start hurting me too much, wrists and elbows were killing me, my vote will most likely go primo regardless of your full goals, but that's just me speaking from TONS of research

Indy,
I'm wanting to look like you then! Weren't you doing high dose GH though...if I go Gh route I'd get 600ius...Is 300 days of 2iu's ed a waste? If so, how should I split that up to increase the dose knowing i have 600ius to work with and add in AAS such as Test and Tren to get looking leaner and thicker

 

[LVTitan]

cant speak for the GH, but i can praise the primo. i actually was going to be using the primo to start a bulking cycle, and something came up. i was on antibiotics for several months and not going to the gym. my diet was crap.
believe it or not, my body was looking better and better and i had not been eating enough, and i had not been to the gym. the shit was like magic, i looked pumped and fuller and hadn't touched a weight. i cant wait to do a real bulker with that shit.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

cant speak for the GH, but i can praise the primo. i actually was going to be using the primo to start a bulking cycle, and something came up. i was on antibiotics for several months and not going to the gym. my diet was crap.
believe it or not, my body was looking better and better and i had not been eating enough, and i had not been to the gym. the shit was like magic, i looked pumped and fuller and hadn't touched a weight. i cant wait to do a real bulker with that shit.

how many mg's ew?

 

[marshallmadman]

DBBT, I just think you are way too big for 2 units of g.h. to really give you the results you crave. Why not go short term, and go with IGF-1? I agree with the person that mentioned a higher dosage of g.h. I sure hate to see a bro spend 1500-2 grand on some stuff and have his results be questionable.

 

[Makavelli]

Well I want more muscle than fat loss. Don't get me wrong, i wanted the GH for the muscle AND fat loss, I'm not lean enough yet to be totally satisfied I need to drop about 5%bf to get the six pack/obliques rockin. My plan was to do the 600iu's@2ius ed for 300days...All I've heard is the longer your ON GH, the better results. Is this true at even 2iu ed for 300 days which is roughly 10 months....

Makavelli, ok if you had only 600iu's and pretend you were me, had Plenty of Test and Tren...how would your cycle look like, please mix it up exactly how you'd do it if you had 600iu's Gh, Test E 250mg 60cc's, Tren-about 40cc's 120mg homebrew...there you go, help a brotha out please!

This is what I'd do:
Run the GH @ 3 IU's a day. That's about 40 weeks, considering the 5 on/2 off schedule. Run the Test E at 1 G a week, which will last 12 weeks. Run the tren at 60 mgs/day for 10 weeks, starting 2 weeks after you start the Test E. After the cycle, come off do your PCT, then after being off for 12 weeks, but staying on the GH, start up again. Now you should have sufficient size to really make a killer cutting cycle. You will have been on the GH for about 6 months and you'll be rockin'! If you could afford it, I'd throw in the Primo on the cutting cycle, which will be 6 months from now.

 

[satchboogie]

its a tough one..

if you plan on runnin the hgh with gear, than the 600i.u sound good.

but then again, 1g primo per week for 12 weeks is 10 pounds of lean mass and possible 5 pounds of fat loss.. think about that!!

 

[Dial_tone]

I don't think you can go wrong either way. I've never done GH but I don't think it's worth doing for mass gains alone. Wow, if I could a year of GH, IGF-1 and Primo i'd be set for life.

 

[kbrkbr]

Primo shreds my hair, so I'll never do it again.

That said, I've never found gh to be very anabolic, even when stacked with gear. I'm 49, so I use it for lots of other reasons, but not to get big.

You likely won't have the painful sides many experience from gh if you titrate your dosage up very slowly. I can't imagine that 2iu ED would ever cause anyone any sides. I've gone as high as 8iu, but I built up to that dose over the course of four months and experienced no sides whatsoever.

I vote for the gh.

 

[flex2win]

The sides from GH scare me personally...I've never used it, I still see great gains from an androgen/anabolic stack. I've used Primo twice at doses of 400mg/wk and swore by it. If I remember correctly, you've got some pretty decent size already, so let's not forget the muscle sparing properties that Primo has in calorie deficient diet. I've used it both ways: for a contest, and recently, for a bulk, it is truly a universal drug. I like to think of it as a chic that swings both ways...

 

[LVTitan]

how many mg's ew?

4amps a week of turkish scherings.
400mg.
i took all 4 the same day once a week. 2cc's each quad

 

[Guvna]

4amps a week of turkish scherings.
400mg.
i took all 4 the same day once a week. 2cc's each quad

not to flame but that is a poor way to do it. enth should be shot 2x a week IMO. It has a half life of 4.5 days. I mean, if you are going to stick yourself twice, you may as well so it at seperate times in the week.


ps, is someone wants to argue the 4.5 day half life-dont....
http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/Profs/Datasheet/p/Primotestondepotinj.htm

 

[LVTitan]

not to flame but that is a poor way to do it. enth should be shot 2x a week IMO. It has a half life of 4.5 days. I mean, if you are going to stick yourself twice, you may as well so it at seperate times in the week.


ps, is someone wants to argue the 4.5 day half life-dont....
http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/Profs/Datasheet/p/Primotestondepotinj.htm

uh bro, no flame taken, but if you are going to post info make sure it is correct. i have done numerous cycles , and they've all included an enanthate of some kind. i have shot test e weekly, and twice weekly. i usually do twice weekly.
but for the record the halflife of enanthate is more like 10.5 days so weekly is okay, i did it cause i work out of town during the week and it was easier for me.

 

[Triple J]

lvtitan u are incorrect bro... the half-life is closer to 4.5 days ... follow guvna's link and see for yourself

 

[Guvna]

uh bro, no flame taken, but if you are going to post info make sure it is correct. i have done numerous cycles , and they've all included an enanthate of some kind. i have shot test e weekly, and twice weekly. i usually do twice weekly.
but for the record the halflife of enanthate is more like 10.5 days so weekly is okay, i did it cause i work out of town during the week and it was easier for me.

bro, you must not of clicked on the link. These are SCHERINGs numbers.

 

[mr.cuts]

I don't think you can go wrong either way. I've never done GH but I don't think it's worth doing for mass gains alone. Wow, if I could a year of GH, IGF-1 and Primo i'd be set for life.

What do you mean you would be set for life??? For some reason you think you are jacked. No offense, but I have seen your pics and you are a fat ass with a pumpkin head.

 

[Guvna]

What do you mean you would be set for life??? For some reason you think you are jacked. No offense, but I have seen your pics and you are a fat ass with a pumpkin head.

dude, the guy is jacked.

 

[LVTitan]

bro, you must not of clicked on the link. These are SCHERINGs numbers.

no for some reason i didnt even notice u put a link in there.. my bad.
but i was not using primotesten (which is test, not primo by the way)
i was using primobolan (methenelone enanthate)
all the other enanthates are around 10 days, why would theirs be different..?
something to ponder i guess..

 

[satchboogie]

What do you mean you would be set for life??? For some reason you think you are jacked. No offense, but I have seen your pics and you are a fat ass with a pumpkin head.

DONT BE A FOOL!!!

 

[Will B.Huge2]

I can't beleive were even having this conversation I've done both and to compare primo to gh isn't even sensible, anybody who has used gh for at least 4 months would never ask this question

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I can't beleive were even having this conversation I've done both and to compare primo to gh isn't even sensible, anybody who has used gh for at least 4 months would never ask this question

willbehugeoneday-i haven't used either, and your response doesn't help my question so why post?

 

[Dial_tone]

Forced to make a choice I would go with the GH but use 3iu 5 days on/2 days off; that will last 40 weeks. Since you're under 30 you might not get the same bang for the buck that an older lifter would so I might lean more toward Primo. Seriously consider getting less Primo and 2-3mg of IGF-1.

 

[Guvna]

no for some reason i didnt even notice u put a link in there.. my bad.
but i was not using primotesten (which is test, not primo by the way)
i was using primobolan (methenelone enanthate)
all the other enanthates are around 10 days, why would theirs be different..?
something to ponder i guess..

I understand that. But there is huge debates over half lives, and this is the most solid thing I have ever found. One could speculate that if the primoteston's (enanthate) is 4.5 days, then there is no reason that primobolon (enanthate) would be any different.


I have a very hard time believing that the half lives of most of these drugs are as long as the internet steroid sites claim. I have seen a lot of half life lists, and most seem to be copied and pasted off eachother, with little to no real research behind any of them. None of them have and kind of referrencers with them, leading me to believe that most are BS.


Where did you get your 10-days half life info?

 

[Makavelli]

no for some reason i didnt even notice u put a link in there.. my bad.
but i was not using primotesten (which is test, not primo by the way)
i was using primobolan (methenelone enanthate)
all the other enanthates are around 10 days, why would theirs be different..?
something to ponder i guess..

That's right LV, the ent ester is the same half life whether the parent drug is test or primo.

 

[Güclü_oglan]

been on turkish primo and it's nowhere near worth the price unless you're as cheap as me and buy it in turkey

if i were you i would do gh with aas. Because i would say primo is too weak together with test and tren to really do a difference, i know few people will agree on this but that's my opinion. Either do primo for cutting or cut it out, my heart stays with tren+test and once i stop being so cheap i'll use GH.

gh together with test+tren would be something you wouldn't be dissapointed of for sure bro

p,s i've never tried gh but i've tried primo and i wasn't satisfied with it the way everyone else is here(600mgs a week) tren over primo any day of the week(if you're not too prone to sides)

good luck bro i wanna see a gain of 20lbs in lbm......

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

been on turkish primo and it's nowhere near worth the price unless you're as cheap as me and buy it in turkey

if i were you i would do gh with aas. Because i would say primo is too weak together with test and tren to really do a difference, i know few people will agree on this but that's my opinion. Either do primo for cutting or cut it out, my heart stays with tren+test and once i stop being so cheap i'll use GH.

gh together with test+tren would be something you wouldn't be dissapointed of for sure bro

p,s i've never tried gh but i've tried primo and i wasn't satisfied with it the way everyone else is here(600mgs a week) tren over primo any day of the week(if you're not too prone to sides)

good luck bro i wanna see a gain of 20lbs in lbm......

Yea,
I'm leaning towards GH and AAS now. Tren doesn't bothe me, I'll do a high Test E, 3iu Gh, and either Tren or Deca cycles while on the 3iu GH for about 40 weeks

I'm thinking that's a good route. NOW, how am I supposed to hide 600ius from "her.?"