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Israel and its propaganda war: Its winning
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the nature boy
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Testosterone boy said:
WTF? OK you got me I am an Israeli operative. My lifestyle/job/whatever is not in any way affected by my opinion on a certain conflict.
People's ignorance astounds me.
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'MattTheSkywalker said:
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MattTheSkywalker said:
APPLAUD ON!!!! then read this........
Bin Laden: Attack on US to Stop Support for
Israel
LONDON (Reuters) - Osama bin Laden, the world's most wanted man, said on a video broadcast by al-Jazeera satellite television on Wednesday that the September 11 suicide attacks were intended to stop U.S. support for Israel.
"Our terrorism against the United States is worthy of praise to deter the oppressor so that America stop its support for Israel, which is killing our children," the bearded, Saudi-born fugitive said.
He added that the tape was being issued to mark about three months since the attacks on New York and Washington and two months after the United States began its bombing of Afghan targets.
The remarks indicated the tape was recorded in early to mid December.
Looking tired but calm, bin Laden was dressed in a clean, camouflage-patterned combat jacket. He sat against a cloth or canvas screen, his Russian-designed submachinegun propped beside him. There was no indication where he was when he recorded the video.
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Source: http://www.tidbitsnews.com/wtc.htm | September 17, 2001
World Trade Center: Who Is Really Responsible?
Sir Peter Bonnell CJSJ
I have contacted Pres. Bush and several members of the Congress asking they consider all possible nations that may have benefited from the disastrous attack on our soil.
I want the guilty parties brought to justice or completely wiped out as much as anyone and perhaps more that most.
Intelligence information coming in from all over the world indicates we may well be being pushed into starting a war with the wrong people for the wrong reasons.
My appeal was ?Should the U.S. spend 40 billion dollars of taxpayer money, sacrifice the lives of our military, or go to the core of the problem?
I suggested we stop all aid to Israel unless they remove the atheistic Zionists from power. Only allow decent Jews who believe in GOD to hold office. Make peace with all Arabs before we give Israel any more aid.
The cause is, our government's blind and robotic support of the Zionist government of Israel. If it were not for that, there would not have been an attack.
For my readers who do not understand the difference between a Zionist Jew and a religious Jew; I will explain.
The Zionist Jew does not believe in GOD or any after life, they are completely atheistic.
The leaders are the international bankers who want a "One World Government" with them in charge. They started and have perpetrated all communism throughout the world.
They hired Marx and Engels to write the "Communist Manifesto" and have been it's moving force everywhere.
They started the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia and completely controlled the Soviet Union from the revolution to the recent break-up and still control the Russian Mafia. They murdered an estimated 120 million Christians during their time of government control.
It was a Zionist that shot Franz Josef that started WWI, to insure the existence of the Soviet Union and wrest control of most of Europe from the Hapsburg's, making it easy for the Zionists to take control of individual nations.
WWII, Roosevelt was surrounded by Zionists and knew in advance of the planned attack on Pearl Harbor. He did nothing to warn the country or military of the attack.
Americans such as Henry Ford, Charles Lindberg, Fr. Feeney, Rev. Gerald L.K. Smith etc., plus the American people did not want to get into what they called a European Zionist war.
Roosevelt had to have something to raise the anger of the American people; not alerting the country or military to the attack on Pearl Harbor, was what he used.
What did we do at the end of WWII? We brought the communist Soviet Union in as an ally. We surrounded Germany not letting food or medical supplies in for months, waiting for the Soviet Union to complete its march of slaughter through Europe. And then, turned most of occupied Europe over to the Soviets.
During the Korean war who was it that condemned our actions and would not allow MacArthur to fight to win? It was the Jewish Zionist Prendergast political machine behind Truman. Because then we were for the first time fighting communists?? no, no you can't do that.
And during the Vietnam era who were those against our stopping communism in southeastern Asia? Remember--Tom Hayden, Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin and Kuntsler? All Jewish Zionists, plus the entire Zionist media. Think about it.
If you have young persons caught up in the fever of the moment, before they run off to join the service, talk to them; until we find out the truth.
It is one thing to give you life for the good of the nation, but quite another to be fooled into giving it for nothing or fighting the innocent
A soldier swears his allegiance to the constitution and to defend his nation, not to the government bureaucrats buying campaign contributions and certainly not to Zionism.
If we stop all aid to Israel we wouldn't have this problem would we?
Zionists have been the force behind and have started communism in Africa, China (where they control practically all manufacturing), the U.S., Asia and South America, Central America, and on and on.
Zionism and communism are synonymous.
We claim to be a nation under GOD and as such have a right to demand our tax dollars are not used to support a murderous, atheistic government.
The Jews of Israel that believe in GOD have always wanted peace with the Arabs.
Recently many carried signs at the African Conference on Racism, that read, "End of Zionism = Peace", End Zionism NOW", etc.
But when the Conference condemned Israel as racist the U.S. delegation walked out and Secretary of State Colin Powell boycotted the conference. Yes..We a nation supposedly founded on fairness and justice and Christian ideals.
Is it any wonder others hate us or are suspicious of us?
Israel is not self-sufficient and must have our aid to exist or the international Zionist bankers support them if they want too. Good, we save our money. It will save the American taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars, we now give to support Israel. And we would not have to bear the hate of other nations.
Israel has never listened to us or has helped us in any way. If you can think of one thing they have ever done for us, tell me, I surely can't think of anything.
Who Gains - WTC Destroyed: Israel's support has dropped to practically zero throughout the world. The Red Cross and several nations are demanding the Israeli leader Ariel Sharon be tried as a war criminal before an international tribunal.
Also there is a rising tide in the U.S. against all aid to Israel.
As any good investigative reporter or detective working on a crime will tell you, look at whom has the most to gain.
Who has anything to gain from the terrorist acts on the WTC and the Pentagon except Israel?
For any others in the Mid-East it would be self-defeating at this time.
However, if Israel could engineer it and blame it on the Arabs, then with the help of the Zionist controlled media and the fever pitch in the U.S. it would bring support for Israel and all their crimes would be swept under the rug.
And now they are claiming that a passport belonging to one of the hijackers was discovered Saturday several blocks from the Manhattan crash site, convenient right? I doubt if anyone or anything will be identified of the hijackers or those poor innocent victims in those planes.
Perhaps the hijacker threw the passport out of the window of the plane right before he crashed it into the building.
Stop for a minute and think what they are trying to feed us. Then ask yourself, why?
It is not hard to conceive that Israel did have some back up plan like this in place as well as the means to implement it for years. After all, their acts in the Mid-East sooner or later had to cause an outcry in the U.S. and throughout the world.
Not only would an act like this bring Americans screaming to their side but would fight the war for them, the war they have always wanted, that is, control or all Arab states and their oil.
Osama bin Laden does not have the wherewithal to have carried out a mission of this magnitude.
Also why would he as an enemy of Israel, at a time when Israel is on its knees in the face of world opinion give them the means of escape? The timing just doesn't make sense, except for Israel!
Lebanon Druse leader Walid Jamblatt thinks the CIA and Israel Mossad are behind the attack. He claims bin Ledan has always been an American agent since we backed him during the Soviet Afghan war.
He claims the attack was a great coup carried out to provoke a new war and impoverish and occupy the Middle East.
And goes on ..It's surprising a country (the U.S.) with a 350 billion military budget had no knowledge of this happening, and indicates one should find out if the American secret services are implicated.
Europol anti-terrorism Chief, Jurgen Storbeck, doubts bin Laden was solely responsible for Tuesday' attacks. He cautioned about jumping to conclusions before the mass of evidence had been properly sifted and also indicated--bin Laden is not the automatic leader of every terrorist act carried out in the name of Islam?it's possible he was informed of the operation or influenced it, but he's probably not the man who steered every action or controlled the detailed plan. "As for the idea that, sitting in Afghanistan, he could have controlled the last phase of the operation is something we should not accept without a lot of doubt" "If one wants to avoid error, one must ensure that the investigation has a wide scope"
He went on to say, In addition, German authorities are highly skeptical about bin laden's role and may have uncovered evidence pointing in a different direction, also he refused to speculate on which groups might be responsible. He said Europol was giving serious consideration to claims that there was some form of state-sponsorship involved.
In another report unnamed German intelligence sources said the Echelon spy network was being used to collect information (Echelon is a vast information collection system that monitors all the electronic communications in the world it sucks up electronic transmissions like a vacuum cleaner using 120 satellites) as far back as six months ago indicating that such attacks were being planned. The U.S. Canada, U.K., Australia and New Zealand supposedly operate echelon. No government agency has ever confirmed or denied its existence, however an EU committee that investigated Echelon for more than a year just reported its belief that the system does exist.
Flying the 757 & 737 aircraft: As a former pilot for 25 years I can tell you we are being fed a line of malarkey by the media.
No one would launch a mission like this unless they had pilots qualified to fly the aircraft in question, and that means flying and being checked out in the individual aircraft they were to use.
I talked with one of the flight schools in Florida. The suspected hijackers had minimal flight training in single and twin engine small aircraft. They had not passed their written or flight tests when with that school. Then they went to another school where they had some 727-simulator time.
It seems as if these people were used as a cover story.
Regardless of what the media is trying to feed you no one would trust a mission of this nature to any pilot who was not checked out in the 737 or 757 aircraft. This means that whoever set this up had access to those planes. Neither bin Laden nor Afghanistan does, but Israel and many other large nations have them.
Also why wouldn't these hijackers just hijack airliners from other country going to Israel and do the same there as they did here.
Anyone who hasn't been in a coma for years has to realize the great stronghold on this country by the Zionists. Otherwise why didn't we do anything when Israel stole our nuclear secrets, tapped the entire White House phone system, refused to extradite murderers of American citizens back to us, sell our nuclear secrets to communist China, attack the USS Liberty killing 34 and wounding 111 U.S. servicemen. We have never brought one sanction nor done anything to them for any of this. It is no secret that the some FBI, CIA, and many in our top governmental positions are Zionists or controlled by them.
Remember the Kennedy assassination,
Ruby Ridge, Waco, the Oklahoma bombing (I will be writing more on that).
Were we told the truth by our government in these cases?
It's time to take our country back!
.WAKE UP AMERICA, before we suffer chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons wiping out our wives, children, grand children, relatives and friends all for the Zionist atheistic controlled state of Israel.
It will happen, unless you act NOW. Contact your representatives.
Gen. John K. Singlaub in an interview with (NewsMax. com) stated in part: "additional, more significant attacks against the U.S. could take place in the next several weeks".
He warned that-- an escalation of terror-which might follow such and elaborate scheme, as we have already seen unfold, might include the use of chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction. "This is really war," End
It should be noted Israel and many of the Arab states have these weapons at their disposal. If we attack, especially those that are not guilty, some Arab or Islamic people would probably do just that.
If it's them fine, we hit them, but let's be sure first.
Tell your representatives you want all intelligence from everyone checked out first. Not just Israeli and the Zionist infected French intelligence service.
In another report by Gary North (reality @ agora - inc.com) Conrad Chester, Dir. of the civil defense research program at Oak Ridge Nat. Lab. Claimed a small terrorist group could use home-brew anthrax to kill as least 90% of the population of New York City or any major city, 24 hours after they released it into the atmosphere, i.e., 12 hours after they had fled the country.
Dr. Arthur Robinson, a biochemist, who wrote a book with Gary North entitled "Fighting Chance" claimed he could personally do what Chester described using used equipment that costs $25,000.00, a years time and a pair of M.A. level graduate students in biology.
(To Be Continued)
Please check the website for any late developments. http://www.tidbitsnews.com/
*Sir Peter is an American Knighted for an "outstanding fight against world communism". He was promoted to Commander & Brig. Gen. In 1978, served as Ambassador of the Sovereign Order of St. John 1978-1980, appointed as Chairman of the Ohio Governor's Export Council to Central America in 1982. His political writings are sent to news services in the U.S. and other countries.
The Nature Boy said:
Nowhere in here have I even told you or anyone what my view is about the conflict. All of my posts have been in response to low end propaganda, and believing that stuff is in fact "stupid".
I'd be remiss if I said Israel was blameless. I never have. Israel shares culpability. It;s just funny what people believe or don't believe - like if we stop supporting Israel, all our Middle East problems will just melt away. LOL!
MattTheSkywalker said:
Ok Matt so what about just saving a few bucks (lol billions...). No matter if it will stop other attacks or no. Just to make taxpayers happy no ? Personally I'm pissed every time I hear about my govt. spending money on other countries. No matter which....
