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Israel and its propaganda war: Its winning

blank212 said:

Israel won that land in a war so all that land is theirs now, problem solved.
Their land was first given by the UK and approuved by the UN. Then after the independence, the rest was won through the multiple wars they had.
 
ImSoBig said:


Why not? The "palestinians" were living there when the RUSSIAN JEWS AND EUROPEAN JEWS immigrated in huge numbers. And a homeland was declared, NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF MAN has another government given away land of one people to another. GIVEN IS THE KEY TERM HERE

Israel GAVE the Sinai back to Egypt in order to acheive peace.
 
blank212 said:


Israel GAVE the Sinai back to Egypt in order to acheive peace.

That wasnt what we were talkign about anyway.

And about Sinai it is a major misconception, they didnt Give back Sinai back for "peace" even though the deal was placed that way, they actually woudnt be able to handle sinia,

they coudnt handle lebanon and lost to hizbollah and retreted this was recent what makes you think they could have held sinia??? Even in 2002 they cant handle the west bank and gaza do you think they could have kept Sinia?? think again.
 
The d-baller research method:

Go on the web and find something loosely connected to your point, whatever that point is...hard to tell since you don't write anything original, you just copy/paste. Must be the southern method. :)

In your first copy/paste article, you attribute this quote to OBL:

"Our terrorism against the United States is worthy of praise to deter the oppressor so that America stop its support for Israel, which is killing our children," the bearded, Saudi-born fugitive said.

He added that the tape was being issued to mark about three months since the attacks on New York and Washington and two months after the United States began its bombing of Afghan targets.
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For your second copy/paste article, you select an article that insinuates that Israel may have been responsible for the attacks.

Seems like the two are not aligned. Do you even read these things before you copy/paste them? Do you have any original thoughts on the subject? Or just lists and links?

Anyway:

OBL and other extremists will not stop attacking us if we stop supporting Israel. Reference the "Christian tanker" comments noted above in my earlier post. Extremist Muslims hate Christians just as much as they hate Jews. They pick on the Jews because they are a smaller group.

Early in Islam's history, in fact, there were attempts by the prophet Mohammed to unite Jews and Muslims, since their views on God are similar. (Pure monotheism). Muslims and Christians, however, are long-time enemies due to the Trinity and the Muslim belief that the idea of God as three distinct beings is a perversion.
Muslims are reticent to attack Christians due to Christians' large numbers. Note, though, there were two assassination attempts of the Pope planned.

Extremist muslims are attacking Jews now because Jews are very small in number and are an easier target.

Make no mistake: OBL wants the US to stop aid to Israel. But please don't be fooled into thinking the attacks will stop if we cut Israel off. If extremist Muslims are able to destroy Israel, Christian targets would be next. You're fooling yourself if you don't think so. OBL just wants aid to stop to hasten the destructon of Israel.

There is a guy named Robert Fisk who has done a lot of research on bin Laden. You may find the reading interesting - particularly hisd omments abut howe little bin laden knows or cares about the outside world. I leave that to you.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Extremist muslims are attacking Jews now because Jews are very small in number and are an easier target.

You have truly lost your mind, you make no sense at all, they are attacking "jews" cause of Israel.

Let me tell you something about Osama Bin Laden he is a very paranoid guy, he belives that the US is trying to Build "THE GREATER ISRAEL" which will include Jordan, Iraq and parts of Saudi Arabia, and that is the MAIN reason he doesnt want American Troops in Saudi Arabia, he belives that American troops in Saudi and American naval ships in the Persain gulf are getting ready to attack the Muslim lands, and that plays back to Israel, to build the Greater Israel. It all goes back to Israel.

But recenlty he has been making friendships with other terrorist groups and other muslim causes to gain more support for him.

And can you tell me when Islamic Terrorism started and why??
 
ImSoBig said:


BUT ISLAMIC TERRORISM STARTED WITH THE CREATION OF ISRAEL, AND NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT WRONG

Really? what were the Almohads then in Spain in the 1400's??

How about Wahhabism in the early 1900's?
 
ImSoBig said:




Even in 2002 they cant handle the west bank and gaza .

I disagree with this. They could handle anything they could possibly do and have for many years. Israel isn't about to fall to the Palestinians. The Americans, the U.N., and their wish for peace in the region hold them back from crushing the Palestinians which they could easily do. That is like saying America can't handle murderers because people are still being killed every day.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Early in Islam's history, in fact, there were attempts by the prophet Mohammed to unite Jews and Muslims, since their views on God are similar. (Pure monotheism). Muslims and Christians, however, are long-time enemies due to the Trinity and the Muslim belief that the idea of God as three distinct beings is a perversion.
Muslims are reticent to attack Christians due to Christians' large numbers. Note, though, there were two assassination attempts of the Pope planned.

Stop posting Lies please, here are differnt translations of the same verse from the quran which is for all times, and is not time specific, jews and christians are regarded with high esteem.



1. Yusuf Ali
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

2. M.M. Pickthall
Lo! those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

3. Noble Qur'an (Muhsin Khan/Hilali)
Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

4. Saheeh International
Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.

5. M. Farooq-i-Azam Malik
Rest Assured that Believers (Muslims), Jews, Christians and Sabians - whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and performs good deeds - will be rewarded by their Rabb; they will have nothing to fear or to regret.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


Really? what were the Almohads then in Spain in the 1400's??

How about Wahhabism in the early 1900's?

Wahhabism is a sect of Islam, a strict sect, show me one incident of terrorism by the Almohhads Moors in Spain or the Wahhabis in the 1900's I would love to see that. lol, But you wont be able to find it.
 
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