Israel and its propaganda war: Its winning

[ImSoBig]

I disagree with this. They could handle anything they could possibly do and have for many years. Israel isn't about to fall to the Palestinians. The Americans, the U.N., and their wish for peace in the region hold them back from crushing the Palestinians which they could easily do. That is like saying America can't handle murderers because people are still being killed every day.

Thanks to 6 BILLION DOLLARS IN US AID, they better listen to the US, if we gave Somalia 6 billion dollars a year in Aid it could take over africa, please.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Stop posting Lies please, here are differnt translations of the same verse from the quran which is for all times, and is not time specific, jews and christians are regarded with high esteem.



1. Yusuf Ali
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

2. M.M. Pickthall
Lo! those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

3. Noble Qur'an (Muhsin Khan/Hilali)
Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

4. Saheeh International
Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.

5. M. Farooq-i-Azam Malik
Rest Assured that Believers (Muslims), Jews, Christians and Sabians - whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and performs good deeds - will be rewarded by their Rabb; they will have nothing to fear or to regret.

Now as to what you posted: 'believe in Allah' means ignore the Christian God, as Christians believe in a tripartite God. So according to the Koran, if Christians reject their God and follow Allah, they can be in paradise.

The divided Nature of the Christian God was inits infancy at the time of Mohammed. Constantine established the Christian Trinity at the Council of Nicaea in 325.

The Qu'ran is saying that if those Christians reject the tripartite God and embrace Allah, they can be 'with the Lord' (Allah).

right there is the grounds for the animosity between extremist Muslims and christianity. (Note: extremists).

 

[ImSoBig]

And Israel is lucky that the US and UN are holding Iran, Iraq, and Pakistan and other countries back, Iran and Pakistan is a country you dont want to mess with, they make Palestianians look weak.

 

[ImSoBig]

Now as to what you posted: 'believe in Allah' means ignore the Christian God, as Christians believe in a tripartite God. So according to the Koran, if Christians reject their God and follow Allah, they can be in paradise.

1. Yusuf Ali
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

Not true, it says clealy those who follow the jewish and christian scriptures and allah which is god.

If you dont relize it already, allah is god in arabic, what do christians acutally call god? yahew or something, thats just arabic for god.

Christian god and Muslim god is one and the same.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Wahhabism is a sect of Islam, a strict sect, show me one incident of terrorism by the Almohhads Moors in Spain or the Wahhabis in the 1900's I would love to see that. lol, But you wont be able to find it.

Wahhabi terrorism got the House of Saud in power. things are rocky now, huh?.

As to the Almohads (glad you knew that one) read the book "Constantine's Sword". There is an entire chapter about how the Almohads destroyed a community on the Iberian peninsula. It was a unique community because before the Almohads showed up, Jews, Christians and Muslims all thrived.

The Pyrenees mountains kept the oppressive Catholic Church out too.

hey bro - don't take this shit personally. All saides need to eb considered. As I said before, Israel shares culpability but let's get some facts out there.......

 

[ImSoBig]

here are the other translations for doubters like you

8. T.B. Irving
Those who believe and those who are Jews, Christians and Sabeans, [in fact] anyone who believes in God and the Last Day, and acts honorably will receive their earnings from their Lord: no fear will lie upon them nor need they feel saddened.

10. A.J. Arberry
Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabaeans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness, their wage awaits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.

11. N.J. Dawood
Believers, Jews, Christians and Sabaeans - whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does what is right - shall be rewarded by their Lord; they have nothing to fear or regret.


SO TO SAY THAT MUSLIMS ACTUALLY HATE CHRISTIANS BUT ARE PICKING ON JEWS CAUSE they are less in number is false.

They hate jews cause of Israel, and hate the US for the support of it.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Christian god and Muslim god is one and the same.

No they aren't....

To a Christian, God is God. Just like a Muslim. BUT, to Christians, Jesus is also God. Will a Muslim worship jesus? No. But he's God to Christians.

As you know, Mohammed is God's prophet. But he's not God.

Also, to Christians, the Holy Spirit is God. Islam has no equivalent belief.

Muslim God and Jewish God are the same.

 

[ImSoBig]

To a Christian, God is God. Just like a Muslim. BUT, to Christians, Jesus is also God. Will a Muslim worship jesus? No. But he's God to Christians.

well we are going off topic but let me clarify

Muslims belive that Jesus was a prophet, and that when people called him "son of god" it was not literal, muslims belive that jesus was a prophet and his god was the same as the muslim and jewish god, there was no trinity concept.

back to subject

Israel sucks!!

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

well we are going off topic but let me clarify

Muslims belive that Jesus was a prophet, and that when people called him "son of god" it was not literal, muslims belive that jesus was a prophet and his god was the same as the muslim and jewish god, there was no trinity concept.

back to subject

Israel sucks!!

LOL. Religious history is more interesting.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Lets get this thread back where it was.

You guys are dumb and know far less than me.