Isolating chest?

[lennyseleven]

Ive gotten more serious about weightlifting in the last 2 or three months. Problem Im having is chest related, I have noticed some growth but rarely do I feel anything from my chest after I work it out. Sometimes by chance i will feel it for a few days but I didnt do anything different that I noticed. I try about 3 or 4 different excercises most on machines, but I can never get that really worked out feeling. and I seem to be doing as much weight as I can too.


I know this is kinda vague but I dont know the names of the different excersises, any ideas?

thanks for any help
Nick

 

[JimBoy]

Machines are good, but you need to get some free weights in there as well.

 

[Kabeetz]

Your main problem is 1) using machines and 2) using soreness as a measure of progress instead of strength.

barbell bench press, add weight to the bar consistently. You'll see rapid improvement.

Barbells and dumbells are the way to go, stay away from machines.

Ive gotten more serious about weightlifting in the last 2 or three months. Problem Im having is chest related, I have noticed some growth but rarely do I feel anything from my chest after I work it out. Sometimes by chance i will feel it for a few days but I didnt do anything different that I noticed. I try about 3 or 4 different excercises most on machines, but I can never get that really worked out feeling. and I seem to be doing as much weight as I can too.


I know this is kinda vague but I dont know the names of the different excersises, any ideas?

thanks for any help
Nick

 

[oso0960]

dont forget BARBELL (not smith machine either) squats and pulling movements!

 

[ZGzaZ]

Your main problem is 1) using machines and 2) using soreness as a measure of progress instead of strength.

barbell bench press, add weight to the bar consistently. You'll see rapid improvement.

Barbells and dumbells are the way to go, stay away from machines.

Spot on.

 

[52_21_30]

For chest I prefer flat dumbells, incline barbell (or dumbell), dips, incline flyes, and either pec deck or cables. I also use chest press machines with a stack occassionally, but only when cutting, tired, or looking to change for the sake of change. I'd NEVER organize a routine around machines.

 

[Jimbo15]

dumbells, varying grips and angles. bench pyramids. throw a set of pushups in between sets and you won't be able to finish your workout. the only thing machines are good for is rehab

 

[silver_shadow]

how big are you... chances are with a couple of months of *serious* lifting you aren't... so that's your problem right there! get hold of a good basic program... maybe 3x5 or we could help you put one together. lift big, eat big, get big and watch that cup size expand!

 

[AAP]

Of course, you may be like most people and with chest training rely more on tendon strength than muscle contraction for stimulation.

You can start by preexhausting your chest with some pec dec before hitting a compound movement. The pec dec will get some blood in there to pressurize your chest and swell it up for the upcoming assault with a compound movement.

 

[mad dipz]

Ive gotten more serious about weightlifting in the last 2 or three months. Problem Im having is chest related, I have noticed some growth but rarely do I feel anything from my chest after I work it out. Sometimes by chance i will feel it for a few days but I didnt do anything different that I noticed. I try about 3 or 4 different excercises most on machines, but I can never get that really worked out feeling. and I seem to be doing as much weight as I can too.


I know this is kinda vague but I dont know the names of the different excersises, any ideas?

thanks for any help
Nick

Kabeetz basically explained it for you. Since you've been training for a solid couple of months, your muscles have adapted to the increased load, so you won't feel that soreness anymore. Don't worry, you keep eating and increasing the weights each week, you'll grow.

 

[Guinness5.0]

I have noticed some growth but rarely do I feel anything from my chest after I work it out.

Who gives a shit what it feels like as long as it's growing In other words, the goal is to grow, not to be sore. Use results, not symptoms, as your indicator of success.

 

[Guinness5.0]

Of course, you may be like most people and with chest training rely more on tendon strength than muscle contraction for stimulation.

Tendons don't perform any work. They keep your muscles attached, but they dont cause any movement. If the body moved, a muscle worked.

 

[AAP]

Tendons don't perform any work. They keep your muscles attached, but they dont cause any movement. If the body moved, a muscle worked.

So there is no such thing as tendon strength? and preacher curls never strain the tendons with too much weight?

 

[Guinness5.0]

That's not what I said. 'Work' and 'function' are not synonimous. Tendons are under stress during a lift but account for none of the actual force that causes the movement. Kinda like fishing -- the line isn't pulling the fish in, the fisherman is. Sure the line's under strain as the fish fights and you reel it in but it's not the cause of the movement (lame analogy but it's the first thing that came to mind since I'm eating fish right now ).

 

[1_more_rep]

does anyone know what will get my lower part of my chest? just asking since its kinda related...I heard that fly's can injure the shoulder or something of that nature? can anyone help? thanks

 

[BiggT]

does anyone know what will get my lower part of my chest? just asking since its kinda related...I heard that fly's can injure the shoulder or something of that nature? can anyone help? thanks

Anything can cause an injury if you perform it like an idiot. If you avoid everything that is potentially dangerous, don't bother even driving by the gym.

That said, what level in the game are you? If you're say 5' 10" and 165lbs, then just lift weights, man. Train a barbell press progressively in a reasonable (4-8) rep range and get good at it, load is king. Some extra dumbell pressing and you really shouldn't need to worry about too much else.

If you're say 5'10 and 240 with a good bodyfat %, then you shouldn't be posting questions like this, lol.

 

[silver_shadow]

That's not what I said. 'Work' and 'function' are not synonimous. Tendons are under stress during a lift but account for none of the actual force that causes the movement. Kinda like fishing -- the line isn't pulling the fish in, the fisherman is. Sure the line's under strain as the fish fights and you reel it in but it's not the cause of the movement (lame analogy but it's the first thing that came to mind since I'm eating fish right now ).

perfect analogy.

to the original poster - just work on compound lifts, eat big and get big... those tits will grow while keeping pace with the rest of your body. don't expect arnie pecs on someone who is a buck 50 - won't happen!