Is your Testosterone SHUT DOWN? FIX IT!

[Michael Corleone 21]

First of all the #1 side of AAS use in men is a VERY shitty lipid profile with a very poor Hdl to total cholesterol ratio

.....that said there are some users that do not seem to be able to recover their natural test production. This is usually a result of being "on" too long at one time or not staying off long enough between cycles to allow for full recovery..... but it can happen occasionally to anyone.
The main reason why recovery is slow is usually because the testes have shrunk and are having a hard time responding to LH. So if you insist on doing cycles over 8 weeks long and do not take an equal time off then be damn sure to use HCG 300-500iu's per day while on or at least for a couple weeks mid cycle and the last two weeks of a cycle. This will prevent testes shrinkage.

BTW the mild androgen nandrolone affects one the worst in this regard let me lake that perfectly clear, although any androgen can cause a problem.

HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

#1 get a total testosterone test done to be sure it is indeed a test problem. If your value is less than 300 then you have a case.

#2. take 2500 iu's of HCG every 4th day. Inject either sub Q or IM. Best place is in the belly fat sub Q. Continue for 32 days.

#3.Also do 50mg of clomid twice per day with food(helps absorbtion) Also include10mg of nolvadex per day. Do all the above for 32 days.

Then wait two weeks and get your test level checked again.

If that doesn't work then double the dose of HCG for 4 injections every 4th day. Than do 2500 iu's for 4 shots ..one every 4th day.
Do clomid and nolva throughout as above. Two weeks after finishing get the test checked again.

Good Luck

RG

GOOD LOOKING OUT BRO...THANKS

 

[Realgains]

I understand that being prescribed test will not solve the problem, but, can he prescribe anything else to get levels back up?

Yes bro...as above...HCG, Clomid and nolva

RG

 

[Slider]

I agree with Gains HCG is a good thing, I just finished HCG which I ran @ 1500iu every 4th day for a total of 10,000iu of HCG then the normal clomid run of 300mg day 1 /100 for 10 & 50 for 10. I have 9 days left of clomid and things are great, the sex drive was awesome during HCG what a difference.

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P.S. I also ran nolvadex @ 40mg/ed throughout the HCG.

 

[dumbell150]

RG - Thanks for the usefull info...

 

[DROCK]

ok a stupid question but I honestly forgot the answer and since we are on the subject I though I'd ask as others may not know as well. How long dose a 10,000 iu vial stay good once opened. I thought that 2 weeks was the max?

 

[thx9000]

I was going to do HCG at 500mg/dy at mid-cycle then follow-up with HCG for 3 weeks after my last EQ/Enan injection but before starting clomid. Is that a good idea or is it better to jsut hit HCG for the last 1/3 of the cycle all the way up to starting clomid at last injection + three weeks.

 

[marx]

Another good post RG...

 

[SOLID]

good post. My question is however, once your test levels are up, will they stay up or are they just elevated for a period of time because of the HCG+Clomid?

 

[bbforlife]

Ok so what levels of test would be considered low. i have a appointment to go over my results for my tests. the doc is real cool and was a bodybuilder. Just a guesstimate. if my results were as follows:


Estradiol 21 pg/ml
Test 526 ng/DL
TSH 1.8 uiu./ml
Free TEst 100.9 pg/ml
What do you guys think?He specializes in HGH replacment

 

[Realgains]

I was going to do HCG at 500mg/dy at mid-cycle then follow-up with HCG for 3 weeks after my last EQ/Enan injection but before starting clomid. Is that a good idea or is it better to jsut hit HCG for the last 1/3 of the cycle all the way up to starting clomid at last injection + three weeks.

That will be fine since EQ hangs around for about three weeks after the last shot. Better to only use it for two weeks after the last shot though.


RG