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IS THIS NECESSARY??? Experianced test users......

"I know it cannot be stored at the body but there is something called half-life, by mean after 5days you'll get 500mg, 5days later 250, 5days later 125mg , 5days later 62.5mg and so on "

Depending on the ester
 
We are not discussing here when is right time to start Clomid therapy, that would be separate thread. We are talking about tapering and you pointing out that I time Clomid therapy wrong, agreed with me that tapering is not nessesery. Thank you! :)
 
It doesn't make a difference if you had 100mg/week or 1000mg/week of test enan. After 10 days most is out of the system.

Its like drinking water: If you drink a glass of water 20 min. later you'll piss most of it. If you drink a 1/2 gallon of water 20 min. later you'll piss 1/2 gal of water. Its still 10 minutes only quantity has changed!

A larger dose doesn't make for a longer half life !
 
Widi, please don't get me wrong :kaioken: :smash:

it depends on the doses and no body can neglect that, A study done on the half-life & duration of Testosterone Enanthate & Cypionate few years ago, it concluded that 10days after injecting 140mg of Enanthate Testosterone level returned to the baseline level while when 200mg adm. Testosterone level returned to the baselive after 13-14days

Reference:
Schulte-Beerbuhl M et al., Comparison of testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone in serum after injection of testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate. Fertility and Sterility (1980) 33.2 : 201-203.
 
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Without clomid then tapering would be a worth while activity. However with the wide availability of clomid, tapering will ensure that you have used less total steroid intake over the same period of time.

Example:

750mgs/wk for 10 weeks = 7500mgs / cycle (without taper)

With Taper, 250mgs, 500mgs, 750mgs, 750mgs, 750mgs, 750mgs, 750mgs, 750mgs, 500mgs, 250mgs = 6000mgs total.

You will grow more on the 7500mgs of total steroid use.

Nowadays tapering is a flawed practice and while it wont do you any harm, it will also not positively benefit you.
 
hmm..

Tapering is pointless in view right now.. Let me take that back mybe Oral tapering and using certain things like t3 is crucial. Why dont you guys just create a self taper. First 4 weeks ethenate or long acting tests with a good anbolic. Last 4 weeks with a fast acting test like propinate and Winny for a anabolic. Once your last 4 weeks start the ethenate will begin to taper and by the 4th week your on clomid and within a week the Popinate will be out and most of the ethenate too. I think people spend too much time tapering, I used to start gaining lots of MASS and muscle then I would be dropping my dossages already!!!!.. also tapering can lead into long unneeded weeks..

My .02

-Scott
 
The Iron Game said:
Without clomid then tapering would be a worth while activity. However with the wide availability of clomid, tapering will ensure that you have used less total steroid intake over the same period of time.

Example:

750mgs/wk for 10 weeks = 7500mgs / cycle (without taper)

With Taper, 250mgs, 500mgs, 750mgs, 750mgs, 750mgs, 750mgs, 750mgs, 750mgs, 500mgs, 250mgs = 6000mgs total.

You will grow more on the 7500mgs of total steroid use.

Nowadays tapering is a flawed practice and while it wont do you any harm, it will also not positively benefit you.



I disagree, cortisol can hit your system real hard if you don't taper high dosages of short acting aas. Also it is more convenient to taper for the purpose of keeping track of your blood levels of a given drug.
 
Cortisol will hit you hard,no matter if you taper or not. Soon as you stop AAS, all the built up cortisol will hit you and tapering has nothing to do with it.
Fina was shown in some strudies has ability of lowering cortisol level. Also Cytadren, taken for last few (3-4) weeks of the cycle in doses of 500-1000mg,tapered down last week and stopped dead 72 hours before Clomid starts, should cover cortisol problem.
Tapering is the old school when people didn't use Clomid for postcycle.
 
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