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Is there such a thing a morality?
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theprofessor
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Jesus...pin said:
Creepusmaximus
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Ask the budda, everything is neither good or bad. Only when things are excessive is when the trouble starts.
theprofessor
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Jesus established morals... i never claimed anyone lived by them perfectly...Lestat said:
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Lestat said:
Websters Dictionary
mor-al-i-ty 1. rightness or wrongness, as of an action. 2. right or moral conduct. 3. moral principles.
The fact that you do not even properly understand what morality means shows that you cannot even begin to adequately argue any position that you hold concerning morality at all. Your lack of understanding what morality even is, probably stems from the fact that you lean toward atheism.
In the absence of God there is no moral standard. It is nothing more than moral realetivity. A moral vacuum if you will.
Ultimately, that makes it ok to kill and rape and steal. Its all just a function of natural selection, and its ok to tourcher babies. Or if you prefer, you can help people and feed the poor, or serve the sick. There really is no differance between the two. Hitler prefered to kill people and Mother Theresa prefered to help people. Niether was right or wrong. Its just a matter of preference. In the absence of God niether was right or wrong, because who is there to say that Hitler was right or wrong. Alot of people thought he was right. But then again alot of people think that Mother Theresa was right. Who decides? You?
Creepusmaximus
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Intrinsically wrong? it's sex to excess. A child is not your equal and you are taking advantage of them, it is to excess there for wrong.
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Creepusmaximus said:
I absolutly agree. You and I both know that. But in other cultures this is not so. There are even sex cults that exist were children are vicimizezed. This is their religeon. If there is no God then who is to say tha they are wrong? You? Me? No, without God it is just a cultural differance and there is no right or wrong and so they are not. See what I'm saying? Shit!
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pin said:
Society determines morality (ie - social rules).
Reality = perception.
theprofessor
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sex outside of marriage is not permited... so that would include that...nimbus said:
it may be mentioned directly... im not sure id have to look it up...
BlondeBombshell27
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There is no such thing as morality. I'm all for what other people believe in. I respect that. I'm a buddhist. I don't force my beliefs on anyone. I'm a firm believer in karma.
Lao Tzu
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Even immoral people act in ways they consider moral. To a large degree morality is dependent on
Value of the recipient
Just desserts of the recipient (do they deserve good or evil as justice)
Goal of the action (does it further or hinder biological survival)
You have no qualms about stepping on a cockroach, it is irrelevant and a threat. Hitler felt the same way about the Jews and considered himself quite moral for it.
Athiests are moral people. They give money to charity, love people, help those in need, etc.
Lao Tzu
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Do you support circumcision, taking a knife and cutting part of a babies penis off?
Moral abolutism is not true, if it were human history would've been much much different than it is now. And if there is a God who determines morality, why does he have the same value system as contemporary americans, why pick our culture instead of one of the tens of thousands of others? Muslim terrorists are far more religious than Americans, so who is to say God isn't really in favor of terrorism, oppressing women, fucking 12 year olds and attacking civilians? I'd trust the religious people over the indifferent people to find what God really wants.
