Is there a successful way to do an androgen free cycle with only GH,insulin,T3?

[cryptkeeper]

im tired of th side effects from AAS, mainly body hair growth, mild hair loss, and the ups and downs with sex drive. i want to feel normal always, SO, my question:

would it be productive to do cycles from now on that only consist of 4IU GH daily, 6 weeks on/off of T3, insulin after workouts, and clenbuterol for 3 weeks here and there? my main goal is to keep all my mass and consistently shed more fat. im worried about losing mass. anyone ever try anything like this with success???

 

[Dial_tone]

add in some Long R 3 igf-1. It would probably work for me but then I gain okay naturally.

 

[cryptkeeper]

thanks for the reply dialtone. do you have any experience with long R 3 IGF? i was thinking of this but its really expensive, so i would want to make sure it works b4 i even tried fuckin with it. what about the insulin, you think its a good idea with only GH and T3?

 

[Anthony Starks]

If you are worried about losing mass, I would drop the clen and T3. Its really hard to have it both ways, keeping mass and shedding fat, but the best way without AAS would be just the GH and insulin.

 

[cryptkeeper]

really? i think no more than 50mcg of t3 daily wouldnt be bad. would you say insulin daily or only after training with a high carb, high protein, low fat shake followed by a meal of similar proportions before bed? i want to avoid any fat gain from the insulin, just want it for it's anabolism.

 

[Anthony Starks]

really? i think no more than 50mcg of t3 daily wouldnt be bad. would you say insulin daily or only after training with a high carb, high protein, low fat shake followed by a meal of similar proportions before bed? i want to avoid any fat gain from the insulin, just want it for it's anabolism.

T3 isn't going to be bad, but it will make it hard to keep your mass. Its really going to depend on your body, and you are probably going to have to experiment a little. Re: insulin, I would take it daily with the GH daily. I bet someone knows more about this than me though, I would search around.

 

[Dial_tone]

I would not go over 25mcg T3 without some AAS

 

[cryptkeeper]

well, what about 37.5mcg?

anyone ever stack gh with long r 3 igf-1, WITHOUT AAS?

im curious to hear dosage protocols, cycle duration, and results?

 

[concordsize]

primo, gh, t3 would be great.

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[mrflexdiesel]

You could likely go up to 50mcg of T3 per day without the loss of muscle tissue if taking HGH and insulin at the same time, unless you have an exceptionally high metabolism to begin with. I have went up to 100mcg per day, only for a short period of time, and have never sacrificed any muscle mass. Personally, this combination has proved far more effective for me than any steroid combo I've ever ran! As far as insulin goes I only take on training days post-workout and that's it. HGH is ran at 3iu's first thing upon waking in the morning. T3 is split up in divided doses throughout the day.