Is r-ALA better than regular ALA?

[macrophage69alpha]

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[Train Harder]

How long does one bottle of r-ala last? What is the recommended dose per day? I fit matters I eat 5 times a day and take in around 300-350 grams of carbs a day.

 

[rangerx83]

How long does one bottle of r-ala last? What is the recommended dose per day? I fit matters I eat 5 times a day and take in around 300-350 grams of carbs a day.

Approximately 900 to 1100mg r-ALA/day.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Approximately 900 to 1100mg r-ALA/day.

Ranger, thanks for posting your numbers. I'm highly skeptical of low dosing r-ALA... and think to properly test it I'll probably get 10 more bottles this week and may bump it up to 2,000mg a day.

For now I'm going to follow your dose pattern and see what the results are like.

So far for personal results I label r-ALA 'highly interesting' but the jury is still out.

 

[Hbone]

So 3mgs per gram of carbs?????

 

[luto199]

yea so if you have a meal with 100 carbs take 3 pills minimum

 

[SofaGeorge]

yea so if you have a meal with 100 carbs take 3 pills minimum

I'm starting to think this is pretty close to an efficacious dose.

I've been getting pretty experimental with high carb meals. One night I put away 5 Thai dishes then two triple scoop Sundays at Baskin Robbin (covered in chocolate sauce of course). This was following eating high carb meals each of the previous days. I took a ton of r-ALA prior to the Thai dishes and the triple scoops. No change on my waistline, caliper measurements, or LBS on the scale... and I normally cannot get away with high carbs at all.

I followed this up a couple nights ago by quaffing a pint of Ben and Jerry's Carmle Fudge... with another high carb meal prior to that. Still no change on the waist line, calipers, or scale.

If I low dose r-ALA I see definite change in b/f. Higher dosing I am not.

The jury is going to be out on r-ALA for a long time, but for now it gets more and more interesting as the real world lab rats experiment with it.

 

[Ulter]

You are one of many people who have posted how they have eaten poorly and not gained any body fat while using r-ALA. But I think your "poor diet" may beat them all. No offense
I don't think real world lab rats would be trying to diet on food from Baskin Robbins and Ben and Jerry. So if you do this I agree you may need a lot more r-ALA than someone actually cutting. Let us know how much you are using to eat like that and remain stable.

 

[SofaGeorge]

You are one of many people who have posted how they have eaten poorly and not gained any body fat while using r-ALA. But I think your "poor diet" may beat them all. No offense
I don't think real world lab rats would be trying to diet on food from Baskin Robbins and Ben and Jerry. So if you do this I agree you may need a lot more r-ALA than someone actually cutting. Let us know how much you are using to eat like that and remain stable.

The information of efficacy is enhanced by pushing the envelope. Anybody can diet and do cardio and take r-ALA, tootsie pops, or placebos and see their b/f go down. If r-ALA has any actual effect it has it in light of a difficult environment (i.e., non perfect eating and non-perfect exercise) instead of a convenient one.

The real effectiveness of r-ALA becomes more or less apparent by deliberately testing the product. I'm not offended by the 'poor diet' comment. I'm deliberately experimenting with a poor diet and a series of poor diet meals to see if I can come up with any estimation of effective does vs. carbs vs. high GI ratio.

One person cannot do this and a research study to establish it is prohibitive. However, with multiple human lab rats playing with ALA and r-ALA more cumulative interesting posts will add to a body of popular information.

I'm following a very controlled diet/cardio pattern as of Saturday AM... through Wednesday. My current weight and b/f is at a long time low now of 198 LBS (down from 230-240lbs.) I've seen my 18-19 inch arms dwindle in size... but I currently look like a cut and shredded pit bull (and Godzilla doesn't have this many veins popping out everywhere. I am the Lizard King!)

I have to research scientist tracking my calories/cardio and r-ALA intake vs. my current b/f level. They have made an estimate that if r-ALA does have efficacy I will drop to 197 LBS by Wednesday. I haven't weighted 197 LBS since the '80s... and my current calorie intake is not overly low... so I will be very interested to see it I drop that pound.

Anecdotal additions -

I had the hottest looking girl in the gym stop her work out two days ago to cross the room and say, "I just had to come over and tell you how good you look. You are looking amazing!"

Yesterday I passed a construction site while running with my dog. A group of the consturction workers started shouting, "Hey, put your shirt on!" I turned back to see what they were shouting about and one of them yelled, "You're making the rest of us look bad!"

Does r-ALA work? I don't know yet. I do know that I've got the freakiest vein popping out look I've ever had... and everyone is noticing it... so it isn't just my imagination.

 

[luto199]

Hey i was at the gym today and while doing some curls i noticed in the mirror that my viens in my arm are actually growing. The one vien that goes down the middle of my bicep was more apparent than i ever had seen it. I hope its another sign of r-ala doing its thing.
P.S. Sofa id like to hear more about this diet, sounds like somthing i'd like to try.

One night I put away 5 Thai dishes then two triple scoop Sundays at Baskin Robbin (covered in chocolate sauce of course). This was following eating high carb meals each of the previous days.

I followed this up a couple nights ago by quaffing a pint of Ben and Jerry's Carmle Fudge... with another high carb meal prior to that. Still no change on the waist line, calipers, or scale.

J/k, but props to you if you can get away with eating that shit. BTW how old are you?