Is Mossberg a good brand of shotguns??

[clusterfoxtrot]

The ULTIMATE in home defense: The new FN Five-Seven. It's a 20-round 5.7 x 28mm round, basically a chopped down .223 round. It's designed to defeat up to L3 body armor without overpenetration. Unfortunately most of you will never get a chance to get your hands on one - it's available to military/LE only and the rounds are BATF controlled. I did however get to play with one yesterday - sweeeeeet!

http://remtek.com/arms/fn/57/

 

[manny78]

This is exactly what has been said.

You have to lead with *all* rifles.

If you've been to proper training you have learned how to reduce angles to avoid leading.

This is why they've been issuing MP5SF (carabine model) to replace some Remington 870 to RCMP's patrols. Smaller and easier to use.

But assuming I could chose any weapon for home protection, my choices would be the HK UMP .45 or the new HK PDW 4.7 mm (which is capable of going through any CRISAT body armor).

 

[TC2]

My cay's breath smells like catfood.......you guys are going way to deep for me.

 

[Y_lifter]

As far as use of Lethal force, florida is similar in respect to using it in public or in a business.
You or someone elses life must be in jeopardy before you can kill them legally.

If the perp turns and runs away, you cannot shoot them.

BUT, In florida there is something in this section of the SS called the Castle Doctrine.
Basically stating that Lethan force may be used on anyone entering your HOME. Regardless of whether the person threatens you or your family's life.

If they run away and exit the house, you cannot follow them and shoot them in the yard.

http://www.home.mpinet.net/flynn/fla-gun.html

Lawful Use Of A Firearm For Defense
A license to carry a firearm is not a license to use it. Under Florida law, you can use deadly force only if you reasonably believe yourself or another person to be in danger of death or serious personal injury, or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony (such as rape, robbery or carjacking). There are two important concepts to remember: The first is the "Duty To Retreat"; this means that if you can avoid the danger by running away, then run away, no matter how you may feel that this affects your honor. The second is the "Castle Doctrine", which means that you do NOT have a "Duty To Retreat" when in your own home or place of business; you can stand your ground and defend your premises and possessions even if you could avoid personal danger by running away.

 

[manny78]

As far as use of Lethal force, florida is similar in respect to using it in public or in a business.
You or someone elses life must be in jeopardy before you can kill them legally.

If the perp turns and runs away, you cannot shoot them.

BUT, In florida there is something in this section of the SS called the Castle Doctrine.
Basically stating that Lethan force may be used on anyone entering your HOME. Regardless of whether the person threatens you or your family's life.

If they run away and exit the house, you cannot follow them and shoot them in the yard.

http://www.home.mpinet.net/flynn/fla-gun.html

Lawful Use Of A Firearm For Defense


A license to carry a firearm is not a license to use it. Under Florida law, you can use deadly force only if you reasonably believe yourself or another person to be in danger of death or serious personal injury, or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony (such as rape, robbery or carjacking). There are two important concepts to remember: The first is the "Duty To Retreat"; this means that if you can avoid the danger by running away, then run away, no matter how you may feel that this affects your honor. The second is the "Castle Doctrine", which means that you do NOT have a "Duty To Retreat" when in your own home or place of business; you can stand your ground and defend your premises and possessions even if you could avoid personal danger by running away.

Then you may consider a Taser Gun.

 

[TC2]

Yeah, here in Texas ,not too long ago you could shoot someone just for them breaking into your house. it didnt matter if they had a weapon or not.

I think that changed now, but you can still kill someone if your defending your life.

 

[TC2]

I think I'm going to go to the shooting range and blow some shit up to day, hopefully I won't knock out any teeth. :

 

[TC2]

This is exactly what has been said.

You have to lead with *all* rifles.

If you've been to proper training you have learned how to reduce angles to avoid leading.

This is why I got the pistol grip and the short barrel, you don't have to worry as much about clearing conors or wipping it out from under the bed.

 

[Code]

This is why I got the pistol grip and the short barrel, you don't have to worry as much about clearing conors or wipping it out from under the bed.

You live in TX?
Take a drive to Thunder Ranch for some classes. Or swing over and take some from American Firearms Tactics and Training.

Thunder is expensive but renkowned.
AFTT does all the SWAT training for AZ Sherrfif's dept.

 

[Y_lifter]

Did no one read my post regarding the FL Castle Doctrine ?
In your house ? Dead unless they run like hell outa there fast.