Is MARRIAGE becoming an OUTDATED institution?

[Steroid_Virgin]

I agree with you Decem... I dont care what you call it, marriage, cohabitating etc.. its the same thing in the eyes of the law, call it anything you want. Its a legal partnership. If you are in a legal partnership you can enjoy the rights applicable to those that are. If you're not.. Oh well... There are reasons for the hoops you have to jump through to get those rights.. One major one is to curb the massive abuse that would entail if anyone could decide at the flip of the coin they were a partnership, then when it stopped being "cool", they could flick a switch and it all be over... Sorry charlie.. it doesnt work that way.

 

[Aryan_Soldat]

Great lie #3 of Gramscian Bolshevism: Marriage is "miisogynistic, evil, oppressive"

Great lie #4 of Gramscian Bolshevism: Extermination of an entire race of peole, through murder of the unborn, is "granting women control of their own bodies"

Fact:
In 1990, fully 2/3 of State and Federal prison inmates were raised in broken homes.

Fact:
When the "misogynistic" institution of marriage remained intact, women's sexuality was respected, and women were exalted for their ability to produce children. After the American Bolshevik Revolution, circa 1965, women were redefined as "units of production". Marxist social elites proposed that motherhood and marriage were tantamount to slavery, and true freedom for women entailed forcing them into the workplace, encouraging them to allow men to use them sexually, and promoting the murder of their children.

Fact:
40,000,000 White children have been exterminated since 1973. Whites will no longer exist in the 22nd century. As much as this bring joy to white liberals, they fail to recognize that their Arab and Asian masters will show them no mercy when they become a 20 to 1 minority.

Fact:
Prior to 1965, when the American family remained intact, drug addiction was uncommon among all populations. Murder was rare enough to warrant national headlines. Families could enjoy a high quality of life on a single income. Violence shocked the conscience of Americans, as it was an odd and terrible occurance. It was considered unacceptable to sexualize women, and view them as vehicles for physical gratification. People who harbored the aforementioned worldview were ostracized.

The Sheeple who have been so successfully brainwashed by the Bolshevik elite will be the first to go. I will laugh when your daughters are prostituted and your sons imprisones. I will laugh when you are victimized by the system that you have created. I will laugh when you communities are overrun by black and bronze masses, who will brutalize you as you preach the gospel of multiculturalism. I will laugh as you look to White people who have not forgotten their warrior heritage to save you as you are destroyed.
The Aryan Soldat
"My Loyalty is my Honor"

 

[mekannik]

...and thank you for chiming in with those fabulous remarks.



[whisper] psycho [/whisper]


By your numbers - that's 1,333,333 abortions/year... 3,652/day (not counting weekends, holidays, paid vacations, clinic bombings).

You sure you want to stand by your fact(s)?

 

[Aryan_Soldat]

I stand by "my" numbers because they are not my numbers. They are the United Nations' numbers, tallied over the period in question. If you want to, do the research. I don't see why the demographers that produced the study would lie.

It is common for neo-Marxists to call their opposition "psychos". A fundamental tenet of Cultural Bolshevism is a strategy known as Critical Theory. Critical Theory, as outlined by MArcuse, encourages radicals to discredit their opposition by branding them as "insane". In the USSR, political dissidents were subjected to "psychological evaluations" and subsequently deemed "insane".

What it comes down to is that you people are losing. You have tied your own noose, and you will be destroyed. You have become so weak, that you wring your hands over the treatment of your enemies. You have become so weak, that you are terrified of death. You have become so weak, that you think you can buy your way out of any situation. Well, Mohammed can't be bought. At least when he comes for me, he will respect me as a warrior. To him, you are lower than shit. You aren't an enemy, you are a worthless coward.

Its interesting that people like those on this board champion the cause of murdering children, and then present themselves as paragons of moral virtue because they are tolerant of perverted sexual activites and hate their own race and culture. You are all sick little weaklings. Enjoy the dying days of your sick culture.
The Aryan Soldat

 

[musclebrains]

immigration and naturalization advantages: i'm not sure what all this entails.. but if it's mainly the fact that someone can marry an immigrant and make them a citizen.. then i'm all for it.. after all.. at least it's putting the one party at some risk.. and making the decision a little harder for them.. whereas if you were to grant this right to singles.. say some guy dates a girl and wants her to be legal and he can just vouch for her. then he's risking nothing... and then everybody and their neighbor would be legal here simply because they'd get some schmuck or personal acquaintence to vouch for them..

discounts on joint apps: two people are more likely to pay the bills then one.. two are responsible.. they have two people to look for if it's delinquent.. it's bringing twice the business to them in the long run.. i'm for it..

rights of inheritance: i'm against.. you're right... this is wrong
custody: depends on what are being called "advantages"..

premarital agreements: um.. they're not getting married.. j/k.. but is this in reference to gays... or no? i can't help but think that it'd be too awful hard to form a legally binding contract between two long-term relationship partners.. same sex or not..

spousal support: as in how? like child support? cuz my cousin has a kid and never been married and he pays child support..

the others i mentioned i really know absolutely nothign about...

i absolutely agree that the state should not be involved in a private relationship... but the fact is.. when it comes down to property.. it has too. doesn't it? how could one even join in with someone.. share everything.. make each others money, property, etc as one.. then part ways and expect to not have problems getting a fair deal? besides of course a legal binding contract regulated by the state.. i.e. marriage

I am simply demonstrating that all kinds of entitlements are granted the married that are not extended to the unmarried.

If you think these entitlements are fair, fine. I don't. I can't see using a private relationship to regulate immigration. I can't see why married people should receive discounted memberships just because it's good for business, when two umarried people could just as easily sign a joint contract.

I do not think people should have to marry and become subject to, say antiquated adultery laws, in order to guarantee reasonable rights of inheritance. That there isn't much alternative now is true. That's why I say I favor people's right to marry but, from a conceptual point of view, I disfavor the institution and believe the laws need to be rewritten to accord the unmarried the same status as the married.

 

[musclebrains]

I stand by "my" numbers because they are not my numbers. They are the United Nations' numbers, tallied over the period in question. If you want to, do the research. I don't see why the demographers that produced the study would lie.

It is common for neo-Marxists to call their opposition "psychos". A fundamental tenet of Cultural Bolshevism is a strategy known as Critical Theory. Critical Theory, as outlined by MArcuse, encourages radicals to discredit their opposition by branding them as "insane". In the USSR, political dissidents were subjected to "psychological evaluations" and subsequently deemed "insane".

What it comes down to is that you people are losing. You have tied your own noose, and you will be destroyed. You have become so weak, that you wring your hands over the treatment of your enemies. You have become so weak, that you are terrified of death. You have become so weak, that you think you can buy your way out of any situation. Well, Mohammed can't be bought. At least when he comes for me, he will respect me as a warrior. To him, you are lower than shit. You aren't an enemy, you are a worthless coward.

Its interesting that people like those on this board champion the cause of murdering children, and then present themselves as paragons of moral virtue because they are tolerant of perverted sexual activites and hate their own race and culture. You are all sick little weaklings. Enjoy the dying days of your sick culture.
The Aryan Soldat

Um, are you for real? Where are you getting this stuff?

I assume you are aware, considering your screen name, of the origins of the phrase "cultural bolshevism." To use that term while making a critique of abortion, is almost mind-boggling. I presume in your world that baking Jews in the ovens of Auschwitz as a deterent to the "cultural bolshevism" of the Weimars is acceptable whereas the termination of a pregnancy is murder, yes? ("Cultural bolshevism" was the phrase Hitler's folks used to discredit the culture of Weimar Berlin, particularly that of Jewish intellectuals like Marcuse, Brecht, etc.)

I have never encountered anything where Marcuse advocated the branding of disputants as insane. In fact, he was the FIRST person on the left, long ago, to criticize the Soviet system for its corrupt revisioning of Marxism. And his critique of Freud's pessmistic view cause HIM to be branded crazy and nihilistic by Erich Fromm, his former associate.

Marcuse's Critical Theory of Society, hatched at the Inst. for Social Research, was both a critique and synthesis of Marxism and Freud's theories about eros and repression. Unlike Freud, Marcuse thought there was a natural drive toward happiness in the human. Unlike orthodox Marxists, he did not believe capitalism inevitably gave way to socialism. As a result, he basically theorized the movement that came to be called the New Left.

 

[furious]

I stand by "my" numbers because they are not my numbers. They are the United Nations' numbers, tallied over the period in question. If you want to, do the research. I don't see why the demographers that produced the study would lie.

It is common for neo-Marxists to call their opposition "psychos". A fundamental tenet of Cultural Bolshevism is a strategy known as Critical Theory. Critical Theory, as outlined by MArcuse, encourages radicals to discredit their opposition by branding them as "insane". In the USSR, political dissidents were subjected to "psychological evaluations" and subsequently deemed "insane".

What it comes down to is that you people are losing. You have tied your own noose, and you will be destroyed. You have become so weak, that you wring your hands over the treatment of your enemies. You have become so weak, that you are terrified of death. You have become so weak, that you think you can buy your way out of any situation. Well, Mohammed can't be bought. At least when he comes for me, he will respect me as a warrior. To him, you are lower than shit. You aren't an enemy, you are a worthless coward.

Its interesting that people like those on this board champion the cause of murdering children, and then present themselves as paragons of moral virtue because they are tolerant of perverted sexual activites and hate their own race and culture. You are all sick little weaklings. Enjoy the dying days of your sick culture.
The Aryan Soldat

Do I detect some mild hostility? It seems to me if you only align yourself to one ethnic group, you are effectively divided and easily conquered.

~ Back to the OP: I think marriage is an archaic ritual that HAD strong religious implications many moons ago. Now that there is ( suppossedly ) a separation of church and State, and so many financial and benefits statuses that change with marriage status ( insurance rates, health care, tax breaks, etc ) the law HAS to step in and regulate what is or is not a marriage.
~If your marriage fails in religion, it's because of spiritual matters that are recognized as intangible.
~If your marriage fails in law, it is because someone is at fault, the intangible cannot be recognized by lawyers, judges, etc. A firm resolution must be present.
~There should be other legal options that are available to single people to be able to attain the benefits listed in previous posts.
~I personally hate hearing how my insurance rates are higher because I am single. I can't count the number of times I have dodged Moms driving an SUV who were yelling at her kids, yet i'm the one who has the higher premiums..hhmmm.
~Never try to debate stoned

 

[RyanH]

You know, I also believe all of us have neglected to speak of the workplace penalties many Americans often encounter simply because they might do not have the typical family (i.e. a family with children).

For instance, employees without children are often asked to work later than their colleagues with children. Those same employees without children are also sometimes asked to work on holidays whereas their colleagues with children are often not. Also, workers with children often receive beneficial treatment in the number of sick/personal leave days they are granted....

Even federal law recognizes "family leave" (as passed by President Clinton which I am, in fact, a proponent of to the extent that employees without children would be granted the same number of days---which unfortunately they are not).

Thus, just additional instances of the individual receiving uneqal treatment all in favor of promoting the traditional "family."

 

[RyanH]

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[Aryan_Soldat]

In typical fashion, you people have completely avoided the issues that I have raised.

First:
I didn't mention Jews. Baking them or otherwise. "Cultural Bolshevism" as opposed to Economic Bolshevism, refers to the ideology promulgated by the Frankfurt School of Social Research. It is not "hitler's term".

Second:
You cannot justify the destruction of 40,000,000 lives by throwing out catchphrase propaganda like "a woman has the right to conrol her own body".

Third:
I don't think you people were listening. YOU are an endangered species. In one hundred years, YOUR DNA will not exist.

as a consequence,
YOUR cultural institutions will not endure.

What you people propose is a Darwinian dead end. Feminism = 0 population growth. Homosexuality = 0 Population growth. The destruction of the family = violent crime = social chaos.

Do the math. America went from being the most secure nation on Earth, with the most affluent working class in the world to becoming a third world toilet ruled by degenerate Marxist elites.

Also:
Marcuse promulgated "Critical Theory". Look it up you Red piece of shit.
The Aryan Soldat
"Any day that Reds die is a good day".