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Is love worth it?

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I was talking with a woman the other night that I have never met. I have only seen a pic of her and she has no idea what I look like. We have "mutual friends." I have talked to her on the phone just a few times about different things that we do and people that we know in school.

After my Nationals I spent a lot of time in and out of the hospital having tests run and such. About a week went by and she called again to say hello and to see how my contest went. I told her about me getting sick and of course I got the general response..."I am so sorry to hear that, are you going to be ok?".

Well, my doctors, cardiologist included, suggested that I not be lifting much less trying to compete anytime soon. I know the consequences...I know them.

I tried to explain to her that I love this sport and I am "injured" so to speak. I also can not quit. It is something that I love and I can not stop.

She asked me..."Clint, it it worth dying for? Is training in this sport and competing worth dying for?"

My response was a little shocking to myself and to her...
"Well it sounds strange but yet, it is worth dying for. I do not know if I could even breathe tomorrow if I could not lift anymore. I do not know if I could even live. I might just cease to breathe and exist if I was not allowed to train anymore... Yes, yes any love that I have is worth dying for."

I don't love very much in my life but the few things that I do actually LOVE deep in my heart...I would die for...completely.

Would you?

B True
 
No, I'd recover and come back twice as strong. Big picture, B. Dying for something's only worth it when it's your only option.
 
i agree with spatts man, dont risk anything. see if you can fix whatever problem you have, and come back stronger
 
I would gladly die for my wife and son. But, if it meant quitting lifting to spend the rest of my life with them, I would quit lifting without blinking.


Like Spatts said, look at the big picture.



.02,
Joker
 
JOKER47 said:
I would gladly die for my wife and son. But, if it meant quitting lifting to spend the rest of my life with them, I would quit lifting without blinking.


Like Spatts said, look at the big picture.



.02,
Joker
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See...the things that you LOVE the most you would die for...

I feel that way about the things that I LOVE too...

B True
 
b fold the truth said:


See...the things that you LOVE the most you would die for...

I feel that way about the things that I LOVE too...

B True
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Understood. But, the big picture:

Can you live not seeing NightFly again?

Can you deal with how she would feel if you did not wake up tomorrow morning?

With how your family would feel?

These are hard things to think about. But, when choices like you are facing come up, you have to think about EVERYTHING. The big picture......

I know I don't want to log into EF one day and see a sticky saying you passed away during the night......

Do what you must. You know we will all support you. Just make sure you have looked at all the options before you make your decision.

.02,
Joker
 
Why win the Darwin Award when you can win the WSM? Between quitting and training? Train. Between delayed gratification and death? Recover.

If you truly loved it, you'd protect your ability to compete in it as long as possible. Early death is kinda...chicken. It shows a lack of patience, respect, and trust. All elements of love.
 
No...I don't think that I could go the rest of my life without seeing or hearing from Night Fly. It would be hard not to get on here either...

I have backed off of my training weights and intensity since Nationals. I am doing all that I CAN in the gym and find my limits very often. Maybe it is stupid...but on contest day I know that I will push myself once again...as far as my body can go.

I can't explain it...it is just how I feel. I am being as smart as I possibly can...

I love training like others do a child or a wife/husband. When everything else is gone...it seems to be the only thing that makes my life and day...okay.

B True
 
DAMN!!! Spatts said it perfectly in both posts. Would`nt change a word. besides your only 32 years old and you`ve got a LOOOONG time left to do all your goals.
 
gonelifting said:
DAMN!!! Spatts said it perfectly in both posts. Would`nt change a word. besides your only 32 years old and you`ve got a LOOOONG time left to do all your goals.
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You sure hes 32? I thought he was younger like mid twenties. Never really thought about it though.
 
spatts said:
Try 25...your point magnified 10 fold.
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Thanks for clearing that up. My suggestion is to take a break bfold. Maybe bodybuild for abit, Its still training and its still lifting weights.
 
Live to fight another day. It`s too easy to get caught up in the macro. step back, step back, step back and look at the big picture. Anyone can give advice/2 cents but not everyone will be there with you when you`re in a hospital bed. Do what`s best for YOU.
Even a race car driver does`nt redline the whole race.
 
B Fold i want you to be 88 yrs old still lifting. you say you cant go on without lifting, then make sure you are able to lift your ENTIRE life. giving advice is easy. listening is easier, doing it can be a huge difficult challenge. LIve to lift another day man, another year, another decade.... Perhaps slow it down some many, maybe take some classes try to get a degree of certificates for personal trianing. you would love trainer other guys, showing them, coaching them etc etc, plus make little extra money on the side. you would still be in the game, just a different part of it........ wish you luck
 
Well, befold, we all die sometimes... sometimes I wish some died before they do and that some people live longer than they do...

Truth is, most of the time, we really have no choice in the matter, or do we? You havea big choice B... you sure do. Just because you don't lift NOW doens't mean you can't lift forever. As long as you are alive, there is always hope... whenever I think I'm down, I think if Christopher Reeves... that muther fucker just isn't giving up, even though he's told everyday he'll never walk again.

I'm not going to tell you to do one thing or another dude, I've been there where I had to make a gut check and make decisions that effected my life ... it ain't pretty.

But at least you have a choice to make... many people don't have that choice... when you think about it, think about how precious life is... and how it is worth more than anything... People do live beyond adversity dude... it happens everyday.

Are you man enough to LIVE with it?

C-ditty
 
All of these posts are truly wonderful. I would read every single one of them and learn from them. I KNOW how you feel about your training...but I also don't think you understand the risks involved. Like...if you train with everything you have right now...you could die tomorrow...but...if you don't...you could STILL die tomorrow.

"Early death is kinda...chicken. It shows a lack of patience, respect, and trust. All elements of love." Spatts said this perfectly. Early death is kind of chicken...especially when you have a choice in the matter. You really aren't looking at the big picture...and that is what you need to do. Open your eyes and see everything else around you...and THEN...decide what is important to you. There may be things in your life that you think you may not be able to live without....but you really would be just fine without them. Do you see my point??? :)

I pray that you do what is smart....and that you take the right road...



You know...I don't even understand why you posted this. You KNOW what YOU are going to do...no matter what ANYONE on this board says. IF everyone on here told you to take a break...you would still go out there and lift...and you KNOW it!!!

You just have to be smart about what you do...and your definition of 'smart' and what is really smart ( in the gym ) I sometimes have to wonder about! ;) (I mean....come on...your light days include lifting 525 lbs on something!!!)

Seriously, B...you need to be careful...because there are PEOPLE in your life that LOVE you...and you will no longer be with them if you continue to push yourself to a level where your body doesn't want to go.
 
To die for something is the ultimate and last meassure. But to sacrifice for something you love is a commitment, this may mean leaving the sport for time to rcover and yes it is a sacrifice but you Will go back to training and can enjoy and cherish it more thouroughly.... We all have choices in our life, we can only try to make the best of it living to me is making the best of it...
 
B-Fold

I understand where your coming from man. Been there, done that. Take your time and see the BIG picture.

(1) You will come back stronger and harder.
(2) You will exercise tremendous degrees of mental toughness.
(3) You understand the value of your hard work up to this point.
(4) You understand why and how important this is to you.

and the fifth and most important of all

(5) Do what is best for yourself.


Any decision you make in life will impact the people surrounding you, whether it be positive or negative. It is the choices we make that make us the people we are.
 
No one can answer this for you big brother.

I believe this is a very serious topic.

I am of the same frame of mind as yourself. I actually am sort of relieved to hear someone else say this very thing. I think I told you b about my med condition as well as my myriad of injuries that should at least 'slow' a reasonable person down. The way you feel about lifting is the way I felt about fighting. Then it was my commitment to the guy next to me in the military. Since I've been a civilian, unable to be there for the 'other guy', I've felt worthless; like I have failed and am no longer deserving of a place on the planet. Since I was medically discharged years ago, that dedication(love) has somehow translated to lifting. Just as I would happily die for the soldier next to me, I would rather not exist than not lift. It sounds odd, in a sort of mentally derranged way. However, when I objectively think about the things that are TRULY significant in my life(aside from a few people), lifting dominates my thoughts. My entire day is planned around lifting. From the time I get out of bed and hit the kitchen, to the time I go back to bed, I am weighing every single action and decision by its effects on my training. Everything I eat is fuel not food. At night, its recovery not sleep.

I can't seem to explain it any better than this. I mean, its just a bunch of iron right? Like yourself, my answer to your question concerns me.

At 27, I have found the love of my life in my fiancee. It goes without saying that I would not hesistate to die for her, not for a second. However, if I had to choose between her and lifting...well, my answer concerns me.

The thought of watching my body become catabolic and eat away years of my heart and soul would destroy me. Knowing that the bar full of weight that use to quiver with fear as I approached it would now laugh at me because I couldn't touch it.



Its not just muscle, because it was made from my heart. How can I live without that?



My answer is yes, I would die for it.
 
b fold the truth said:
I was talking with a woman the other night that I have never met. I have only seen a pic of her and she has no idea what I look like. We have "mutual friends." I have talked to her on the phone just a few times about different things that we do and people that we know in school.

After my Nationals I spent a lot of time in and out of the hospital having tests run and such. About a week went by and she called again to say hello and to see how my contest went. I told her about me getting sick and of course I got the general response..."I am so sorry to hear that, are you going to be ok?".

Well, my doctors, cardiologist included, suggested that I not be lifting much less trying to compete anytime soon. I know the consequences...I know them.

I tried to explain to her that I love this sport and I am "injured" so to speak. I also can not quit. It is something that I love and I can not stop.

She asked me..."Clint, it it worth dying for? Is training in this sport and competing worth dying for?"

My response was a little shocking to myself and to her...
"Well it sounds strange but yet, it is worth dying for. I do not know if I could even breathe tomorrow if I could not lift anymore. I do not know if I could even live. I might just cease to breathe and exist if I was not allowed to train anymore... Yes, yes any love that I have is worth dying for."

I don't love very much in my life but the few things that I do actually LOVE deep in my heart...I would die for...completely.

Would you?

B True
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There is no panacea answer for your dilemma!
If I were you , I would listen to other fellas, analyze their inputs, but listen to my inner self ,digging deep for an answer and follow my heart!

I am sure that you are the only one who could take the best decission ,therefore would be nobody else to blame if your decission was not the best...Hopefully good things would come to good people!

I dont want to use anymore cyber space as too many words may be worthless and confusing for such a deep dilemma.
Much luck to you BF!
 
It sounds odd, in a sort of mentally derranged way. However, when I objectively think about the things that are TRULY significant in my life(aside from a few people), lifting dominates my thoughts. My entire day is planned around lifting. From the time I get out of bed and hit the kitchen, to the time I go back to bed, I am weighing every single action and decision by its effects on my training. Everything I eat is fuel not food. At night, its recovery not sleep.
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this is exactly how my life is
 
jeremys said:
It sounds odd, in a sort of mentally derranged way. However, when I objectively think about the things that are TRULY significant in my life(aside from a few people), lifting dominates my thoughts. My entire day is planned around lifting. From the time I get out of bed and hit the kitchen, to the time I go back to bed, I am weighing every single action and decision by its effects on my training. Everything I eat is fuel not food. At night, its recovery not sleep.
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this is exactly how my life is
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I wasn't this way before, but I have become this exacty way. I just couldn't word it well...
 
b fold the truth said:


" Yes, yes any love that I have is worth dying for."

I don't love very much in my life but the few things that I do actually LOVE deep in my heart...I would die for...completely.

B True
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Yeah...I still feel this way.

B True
 
Dude, i remember last year i injured my knee and couldn't do any kind of squats of leg extensions. Then a few weeks later [before my knee healed] i hurt my shoulder and was unable to do presses of any kind [upper body]. It was the most depressing time of my life. I felt that one by one, everything that gave me happiness in life was being taken away from me. I spent many nights at that point just laying in the dark in my dorm room. Sometimes i would sit there and just start crying.... yeah, its sad, but that how happy the gym makes me. I can't imagine a life where i wouldn't get to lift. The whole rush of blood, and sound of the weights, the pump, but even more, the comradery of guys in the gym, the team work, the whole life style: its just great.

I can't imagine what it would be like to have to give all that up. But, i do know that there are other things in life that are great. If i had to, i would rather quite than die. I know i could never "replace" lifting, but i am sure i could find other stuff to love as much.

Plus dude, if you died, who would all the people on this board mentor???

-Fatty
 
As far as my health...I am feeling better. Heck...I can't do a lot of cardio work at the moment but I am getting stronger (I think).

My point was simply this...

The things that you love in life...TAKE THEM VERY SERIOUSLY and do NOT let them pass you by!!! My very few loved ones in this world and on this board...I would give my life for theirs in a heartbeat. I'd die trying to save them from all that I could...always.

If you have passion for something (lifting, family, friends, lovers) then never let a day go by without sharing that passion with them...ever.

B True
 
While I don't stand in your shoes nor am I aware of your condition B, IMHO your being a little short sited. Regather, regroup and live to win many more. This is a battle not the war, win the war.

Perhaps take this time and write a comprehensive training book for the dedicated lifter. Maybe volenteer at the High School and train future lifters, redirect and focus this energy temporarily.

Regardless, I will stand right beside you in your decision.
 
BFold,


My virtual friend Bfold, please use common sense;common sense and conscience are like a muscle. If you don't use a muscle it gets weaker and weaker....

You are going thru a transient phase in your life right now; like everything else in life that will become past tense soon.
I had a similar moment in my life-not as dramatic as yours -when while I was reading a book I stumbled upon this wisdom quote that made me think and think and reevaluate the situation.

There is the quote:
Romance is like a game of chess - one false move and you're mated

Guess what: My next move was the right one..Never got mated.....

Moral: Always move forward....

Just my humble opinion!
 
You ever look back on your life...your posts...and be glad that you made the decisions that you did?

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
You ever look back on your life...your posts...and be glad that you made the decisions that you did?

B True
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all the time bro
 
Bfold your an inspiration to alot of people, itd be a shame to see you go. but really think about what your saying man.
I understand what you mean someone you love is worth dying for, but is something?
Weightlifting is not a person, it does not really care that you love it, nor does it love you back. Weightlifting really wont be hurt if you die, actually im sure it could care less. Weightlifting will continue its existance as it always have if you die, or if you chose to stop training for a bit.
Those people that love you, theyll be hurt if you die, theyre emotional state of being will change if you die. Also, if you were to give your life for them, should a situation where their survival was dependant on you sacrificing your life. Im sure they would appreciate that, and as a concious beings they would go on appreciating and enjoying life, and something would have been gained (or at the very least, not lost). Weightliftings survival is not dependent on yours, and it wont be hurt if you stop for a bit. but people will be hurt if you die.
So why are you risking your life for this?
 
Please...look back at the date on this. It was about 6 month ago when I was having some pretty rough health problems.

B True
 
haha, you serious? thats funny, cause i saw it up at the front yesterday. I didnt respond to it at first, but i thought it might be worth it.
So i take it your doin alright then.
 
ThePolishHammer said:
haha, you serious? thats funny, cause i saw it up at the front yesterday. I didnt respond to it at first, but i thought it might be worth it.
So i take it your doin alright then.
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I am feeling much better. Dehydration a long with a few other infections...

B True
 
B Fold, yer the most inspirational person on this baord by far. you work harder, are more determined, and love this sport more than anyone i have ever seen. your passion drives me and im sure most people in the training board to bust their ass more than they ever have. thx brother, and good luck.
 
Hell, if you love it, what better way to go. You'll be one of the few who will die happy.

My grandpa passedaway playing the game he loved the most..golf. I knew he wouldn't want anyother way.
 
I'd die for my family, and, you know what, I think I'd die for lifting too.


It's not right. It's not wrong. It's just me.
 
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