is it really necessary to go to failure on every set?

[snakeryu]

Right now im doing circuit training but want to stop that just for a 3 weeks and go back to a regular strength train workout. I got frustrated doing this before but I think i never tried doing it without having to go to failure. When i always go to failure, I feel my body is completely tired than the muscle group i am using. I'm not using momentum either. I used a good strict form. I didn't gain any mass or strength. I know when u go to the gym ur suppose to fatigue or put stress on the muscle to make it ripped apart to be rebuild stronger during ur recovery time. I don't even get sore from going to failure when im done with the workout.

 

[dabuffguy]

just tryin to help...

don't worry.

Sometimes, when people are very insistent, others will believe what you say even if it isn't right. We are just trying to be even more insistent.

you personally can get away with failure set training because you are 14 and have increasingly high testosterone levls. You couldn't overtrain if you tried. but, a 30 year old guy with 1/2 the testosterone you have cannot do failure set training because it will be way to hard on his body. Old men can't do what young guys can do. gota remember that. Even myself, at 24 and former pro baseball pitcher, can't do what I used to when I was a teenager.

 

[ceo]

Right now im doing circuit training but want to stop that just for a 3 weeks and go back to a regular strength train workout. I got frustrated doing this before but I think i never tried doing it without having to go to failure. When i always go to failure, I feel my body is completely tired than the muscle group i am using. I'm not using momentum either. I used a good strict form. I didn't gain any mass or strength. I know when u go to the gym ur suppose to fatigue or put stress on the muscle to make it ripped apart to be rebuild stronger during ur recovery time. I don't even get sore from going to failure when im done with the workout.

gauging how effective your workout was by how sore you are is a poor gauge. Gauge by progression you make. This is why I am stressing the 3x5 or 5x5.

 

[dabuffguy]

gauging how effective your workout was by how sore you are is a poor gauge. Gauge by progression you make. This is why I am stressing the 3x5 or 5x5.

+1, use a scale and a mirror to track progress. I get sore after every workout, all it means is there is lactic acid build up that your muscles need to get rid of. not a sign of how well your workout went.

 

[snakeryu]

no i don't measure sore as progression not to be so offenseive but just saying that my muscle are never sore but my body feels somewhat fatigue. 5x5 do u mean 5 sets of 5 reps i already done this and i can do them again without going to failure this time. Trying to figure out if thats the problem has the failure been killing me was it my biggest enemy. I believe im not stimulating the muscle enough since i was doing to failure for every set and each set i end up reducing the number of reps by 2 or 3.

 

[skyflyer231]

i think its very important to go until failure...I do every set i wouldn't recommend to set a number. Your muscles cant count go all out get the most reps you can get. Ronnie Coleman goes until failure... he say "I never go under 10 reps" as you can see he does 10 reps or more until failure in fact almost all bodybuilders go until failure. How can you expect to get big is you don't try as hard as you can? NO PAIN NO GAIN! go all out bro its necessary!!!

First of all, Ronnie Coleman is on like 3 grams of juice a week.

With that being said I think it's important for bodybuilders to go to failure occasionally. It definately is not neccessary for every set though. Not even Ronnie Coleman goes to failure every set.

Actually I don't know this for sure but it would be retarded if he did, without even any type of warm up sets for big compound movements. I'm pretty sure even Ronnie likes to hit maxes or close to them, this would be impossible if all he did was reps to failure.

 

[ceo]

no i don't measure sore as progression not to be so offenseive but just saying that my muscle are never sore but my body feels somewhat fatigue. 5x5 do u mean 5 sets of 5 reps i already done this and i can do them again without going to failure this time. Trying to figure out if thats the problem has the failure been killing me was it my biggest enemy. I believe im not stimulating the muscle enough since i was doing to failure for every set and each set i end up reducing the number of reps by 2 or 3.

read the training info vault stickie thread at the top of the forum.

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

progression. Increasing weight lifted. 5x5 does a pretty good job guiding one through this. Use the spreadsheet. Get stronger, lift more weight, get bigger muscles. simple.

 

[GUARDIAN]

i do it but that is what works for me. i use a modified HIT program like Yates.

 

[ceo]

i do it but that is what works for me. i use a modified HIT program like Yates.

So I assume you're only going to failure on your working set(s) then, and not your warmups? So...not every set.


That's how I do it with DC too.

 

[MuscleFr3ak101]

Even myself, at 24 and former pro baseball pitcher, can't do what I used to when I was a teenager.

Were you really a pro who did u play for and wut was you name?