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act one way to a man and make promise after promise of their love affection and loyalty, and create a world around themselves in all things that the man would come into contact with that affirm their promises...


and then them live completely different when they arnt with their man? - fucking others, hitting on others, neglecting their "love" for them.


if so, why would someone fuck over a good guy so badly? do they not realize how fucked up ti is or are they just evil

...chesty's thread was making me think about this, how are things going bro?
 
They don't respect guys that supplicate to them and let them walk all over them. In a way it has to deal with survival of the fittest. Women's attitudes toward you are your gauge of this. They don't see the sensitive soft fuzzy type guys as real men so they have no reason to respect them as more than a friend. Ino other words, if you want to keep a woman, stop being a pussy. At least most of the time, lol.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
They don't respect guys that supplicate to them and let them walk all over them. In a way it has to deal with survival of the fittest. They don't see the sensitive soft fuzzy type guys as real men so they have no reason to respect them as more than a friend. Ino other words, if you want to keep a woman, stop being a pussy. At least most of the time, lol.
but then why would they pretned they like it and lie to u and say they are faithful and want noone else?

plz gimme real responses, i actually want to learn abotu this shit before i have to get fucked over when i start chasing girls.
 
yes, they are
poor girls, they really have a hard life of loneliness and pain ahead of them for living so unethically
 
Ya they may think they get away with it on the surface...
but trust me in thier own private space they live in a state of agony over the burned bridges, broken hearts, lies, and games they have played with others feelings..

if they dont..they are sociopath's like my ex-fiance...she actally seems to ENJOY seeing how badly she can hurt people...takes pleasure in it...sick
 
Wulfgar said:
Ya they may think they get away with it on the surface...
but trust me in thier own private space they live in a state of agony over the burned bridges, broken hearts, lies, and games they have played with others feelings..

if they dont..they are sociopath's like my ex-fiance...she actally seems to ENJOY seeing how badly she can hurt people...takes pleasure in it...sick
is it true if a girl crys and tells you she loves you so much and you make her so happy and thats why shes crying, does that normally mean that she has something to hide? or is it possible to be that happy in a relationship that u cry

i think KB mentioned something about it or someone in a thread a long time ago i cant remember
 
SublimeZM said:
act one way to a man and make promise after promise of their love affection and loyalty, and create a world around themselves in all things that the man would come into contact with that affirm their promises...


and then them live completely different when they arnt with their man? - fucking others, hitting on others, neglecting their "love" for them.


if so, why would someone fuck over a good guy so badly? do they not realize how fucked up ti is or are they just evil

...chesty's thread was making me think about this, how are things going bro?


its possible, just as its possible for a man to do the same thing
 
I'm the one that does the heartbreakin'
the only time I've had mine broken hers was too
 
SublimeZM said:
but then why would they pretned they like it and lie to u and say they are faithful and want noone else?

plz gimme real responses, i actually want to learn abotu this shit before i have to get fucked over when i start chasing girls.


If they use the exact words "faithful" and "want no one else" then they're probably telling the truth. Women have a hard time telling flat out lies. They go about it in a much more deceptive, conniving manner. Because they can't lie, they're experts at this much more man-confusing alternative.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
If they use the exact words "faithful" and "want no one else" then they're probably telling the truth. Women have a hard time telling flat out lies. They go about it in a much more deceptive, conniving manner. Because they can't lie, they're experts at this much more man-confusing alternative.
waht if they lie about stupid things then are they most likely lying about the serious stuff too?

like lying to teachers and parents and stuff or lying about how much they had to eat
 
Dude, I fear the same shit too. Unfortunately, elite has made it worse for me after reading about so many people getting fucked over, even people I would think, how could you cheat on THAT person. It makes you question so many things, because to you, it makes you wonder how you could be so sure of yourself. And the thing is, you cant. Nothing is made of stone. Everything like this can be broken, and it hurts to think what my future might hold for me. Cause I'm a fairly sensitive dude (though i dont always show it), and if it's a girl I like, and im weak for her, its gonna be hard to not give my whole heart to her. I would like to resist a little, but I figure, what's the point if you cant let yourself go. But once I cross that line, I could be putting my mind on the line. I am, actually. But if you feel the person is worth the risk, that's when you do it. You gotta understand that in risking to love someone, you are also risking to lose them. And boy is it possible. My father was a cheat and my mother was cheated. So many people I know have been fucked over and irks me. I honestly hope one day, I can use my head to get some sort of message out, whether it be in my music or in a book or something. People need to start to change or this world is in for a bunch of second-guessing lunatics walking about another.

Sub, IMO, the key is to find trust in yourself before your put trust in others. Learn to trust you rcapablities, learn to trust you judgment, your instinct. If you dont understand yourself or dont understand others and how you'll fare with them, you could get burned. You can only aim to do your best and hope the people you choose are good as you had seen them to be. It's a tough world man, and this is one of the many realities everybody has to face.
 
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hanselthecaretaker said:
If they use the exact words "faithful" and "want no one else" then they're probably telling the truth. Women have a hard time telling flat out lies. They go about it in a much more deceptive, conniving manner. Because they can't lie, they're experts at this much more man-confusing alternative.

They basically rearrange the truth so they dont sound bad. Wouldnt you say?


men too.
 
lol @ the gender stereotypes. hilarious. men dont like when women are man-bashers and women dont like when men are woman-bashers.

where do we go from here?
 
Smurfy said:
lol @ the gender stereotypes. hilarious. men dont like when women are man-bashers and women dont like when men are woman-bashers.

where do we go from here?

no where, we're still stuck
 
Smurfy said:
lol @ the gender stereotypes. hilarious. men dont like when women are man-bashers and women dont like when men are woman-bashers.

where do we go from here?
i already know how men work, so i dont need to ask.

im trying to ask people's experiences with women. it would actually help if u, as a woman would help out in this discussion, we can make one about men too, in a separate thread

heres a title

"are all men gender stereotyping double standard cheaters, or just some"

but for now, please dont h8 on my thread
 
My brother was dating a woman. She sat him down, with her kids, & asked him to move in with her. He sold all his stuff & moved in. 2 months later, her neighbour's wife left him & she told my bro she really loved the other guy, so take a hike.
He was devastated & homeless. I wanted to strangle the lying, conniving, deceitful bitch.
On the other hand, I have been married almost 23 years &, although we've had some problems, we are very much in love & sometimes we cry over the depth of that. Although I don't let her see me, 'cause it's not manly, LOL.
 
SublimeZM said:
i already know how men work, so i dont need to ask.

im trying to ask people's experiences with women. it would actually help if u, as a woman would help out in this discussion, we can make one about men too, in a separate thread

heres a title

"are all men gender stereotyping double standard cheaters, or just some"

but for now, please dont h8 on my thread
Im not hating on you or your thread

But the responses are all "Women will do this and women will do that blahbalhablah"

The answer is to your thread is:"Yes, it's possible. It's possible for anyone to behave in that way."

There you go.
 
my sister-in-law married a guy. She got him a truck on her name. He didnt work. She worked crazy, insane hours. He said he has builders licence and that he is gonna help my mother-in-law build her house. She let him. She was writing him checks for material, for the workers, bricks etc....while he was cashing those checks in his own bank account whil enot paying anyone and for anything. While he was doing this, he started buying himself and my sister-in-law Rolex watches, jewlery, opened up a restorant with a partner, went to Macedonia......I wonder with whose money. My sister-in-law has no idea whats happening. She is also pregnant. They find out his scams, go through divorce, my sister-in-laws credit is shot to hell (had to file banckropcy), my mother-in-law has a house half built and with few leans on it, but all the money from the mortgage loan are gone.....He is gone too, didnt care even for his own child

Thats just cliff notes
 
foreigngirl said:
my sister-in-law married a guy. She got him a truck on her name. He didnt work. She worked crazy, insane hours. He said he has builders licence and that he is gonna help my mother-in-law build her house. She let him. She was writing him checks for material, for the workers, bricks etc....while he was cashing those checks in his own bank account whil enot paying anyone and for anything. While he was doing this, he started buying himself and my sister-in-law Rolex watches, jewlery, opened up a restorant with a partner, went to Macedonia......I wonder with whose money. My sister-in-law has no idea whats happening. She is also pregnant. They find out his scams, go through divorce, my sister-in-laws credit is shot to hell (had to file banckropcy), my mother-in-law has a house half built and with few leans on it, but all the money from the mortgage loan are gone.....He is gone too, didnt care even for his own child

Thats just cliff notes
WOW, just wow.
There is no end to what people will do for their own selfish ends. From male, female, & indeterminate.
 
SublimeZM said:
i hate the world
Sometimes I feel the same way bro. Disgusted at us all, & thinking God should try again with mice or something.
You just gotta do your part & not let anybody say those things about you.
 
SublimeZM said:
but then why would they pretned they like it and lie to u and say they are faithful and want noone else?

plz gimme real responses, i actually want to learn abotu this shit before i have to get fucked over when i start chasing girls.

Ok, even though you love calling me douchbag...I'll like to try to help you out here!

I know you are 18 yrs old therefore you're obviously dating women around or your own age. Younger women are discovering themselves and as they do,they play lots of head games. They are insecure and need to "test the waters" so to speak! It's like a right of passage to pretend and play games w/ guy's heads!
I am not saying this is right, but it happens.
Sub, when you meet a nice girl, you will know it. They will not play you like this. You need to find a secure gal with a good heart.
Women are not evil, people are evil and what you feel and describe happens to all of us.
 
SublimeZM said:
waht if they lie about stupid things then are they most likely lying about the serious stuff too?

like lying to teachers and parents and stuff or lying about how much they had to eat


If someone is a lair, then they probably lie about everything. A white lie here and there does not mean they will lie all the time!
If someone lies all the time, that makes it pathalogical!
 
CEASAR said:
Sub, IMO, the key is to find trust in yourself before your put trust in others. Learn to trust you rcapablities, learn to trust you judgment, your instinct. If you dont understand yourself or dont understand others and how you'll fare with them, you could get burned. You can only aim to do your best and hope the people you choose are good as you had seen them to be. It's a tough world man, and this is one of the many realities everybody has to face.


AWESOME ANSWER! and so true!
 
SublimeZM said:
i hate the world

Hun, don't hate the world...I know how you feel! I've hated this world so many times. When you learn to love YOU and trust in YOU, you will not hate it so much anymore.
And when someone hurts us, the world seems like a shitty place! Find good strong happy ppl and you will see, it gets better!
 
be glad this is happening to you now, you little prick. better than 10 years from now and you're coughing up your house and car and you have to sleep at the fucking Y next to dudes who are oozing fluids. lesson learned.
 
Smurfy said:
lol @ the gender stereotypes. hilarious. men dont like when women are man-bashers and women dont like when men are woman-bashers.

where do we go from here?
I quit throwing rocks at girls in the 5th grade
 
CEASAR said:
Sub, IMO, the key is to find trust in yourself before your put trust in others. Learn to trust you rcapablities, learn to trust you judgment, your instinct. If you dont understand yourself or dont understand others and how you'll fare with them, you could get burned. You can only aim to do your best and hope the people you choose are good as you had seen them to be. It's a tough world man, and this is one of the many realities everybody has to face.
I totally agree with you here. I dont, however, see why it's so difficult to do.
 
blueta2 said:
Ok, even though you love calling me douchbag...I'll like to try to help you out here!

I know you are 18 yrs old therefore you're obviously dating women around or your own age. Younger women are discovering themselves and as they do,they play lots of head games. They are insecure and need to "test the waters" so to speak! It's like a right of passage to pretend and play games w/ guy's heads!
I am not saying this is right, but it happens.
Sub, when you meet a nice girl, you will know it. They will not play you like this. You need to find a secure gal with a good heart.
Women are not evil, people are evil and what you feel and describe happens to all of us.
what if u find a girl who is everything that you dream of, shows she sincere and loves you, but then lies about small dumb stuff which makes u question the big stuff
 
It could be argued that lying is lying, that the magnitude doesnt matter.
 
The Shadow said:
It could be argued that lying is lying, that the magnitude doesnt matter.
thats my policy.

one time my friend lied to my face and i knew he was lying and i gave him so many ops to fess up and finally i go "fuck you fucking faggot, your lying to my fucking face"

and hes all like tryign to act all cool about it then apologizes and sucks my dick
 
SublimeZM said:
what if u find a girl who is everything that you dream of, shows she sincere and loves you, but then lies about small dumb stuff which makes u question the big stuff

Then she is not the girl you dreamt of, b/c the girl you dreamt of would not be a liar! Listen, it does not mean someone doesn't love you b/c they lie.
People lie for all different reasons, mostly b/c they are insecure.
Sub, you have so much time to find "true love", enjoy the dating, meet new poeple, surround yourself with positive good people and you will see, in time the real girl of your dreams will come alone.
It just feel yucky now b/c you've been hurt....it does get better!
Trust is THE most important factor in any healthy good relationship...if you do not trust her now, you never will. It sucks, I know, but all the pains from "love" teach us good lessons for our future relationships.
 
blueta2 said:
Then she is not the girl you dreamt of, b/c the girl you dreamt of would not be a liar! Listen, it does not mean someone doesn't love you b/c they lie.
People lie for all different reasons, mostly b/c they are insecure.
Sub, you have so much time to find "true love", enjoy the dating, meet new poeple, surround yourself with positive good people and you will see, in time the real girl of your dreams will come alone.
It just feel yucky now b/c you've been hurt....it does get better!
Trust is THE most important factor in any healthy good relationship...if you do not trust her now, you never will. It sucks, I know, but all the pains from "love" teach us good lessons for our future relationships.


Good advice! Learn from your situation, wash your hands clean of it and move on....
 
From my experiences there are only a handful of people, male or female, who are truly worth the time of day and not selfish dumbasses seeking personal gain and selfishness.

I strive to be one of the unselfish persons and think I do succeed. I don't twist reality to justify illicid behavior like most.
 
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