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That's what I've come across. Either they hate men or are just kinda crazy. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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Is it me or do most strippers have emotional problems?
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Guys please don't think I've been living under a rock. I've known this for quite some time. Just another one has further validated that belief. And I don't mess with strippers but I figured what the hell and give why not one a chance? Why not? Cause they wacked out in the head. That's why.
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Nah I'm cool believe me. I didn't want you to think I had my head in the clouds. We recently I have talked to one. I never date one b4 but had friend how who and knew some who were friends of firends.
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yeah i hear what you are saying. but concider this. what is the difference between dancing aorund half nekkid and walking onstage wearing only a smal pair of posing trunks, oiled in and pumped up?
nothin.. i think those guys are nuts too.. except for truly natural bbers.. anyone that uses drugs to change the makeup of their body obviously has a few screws loose...
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COME ON MAN!!! ALL STRIPPERS HAVE ISSUES. WHY ELSE WOULD SOMEONE DEGRADE THEMSELVES TO MAKE EASY MONEY???
AND NO MATTER WHAT A STRIPPER TELLS YOU...SHE IS NOT "DANCING" TO PAY FOR SCHOOL CUZ THE BITCH ISNT IN SCHOOL!!! SO DONT EVEN LET THE BITCH LIE TO YOU.
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AND NO MATTER WHAT A STRIPPER TELLS YOU...SHE IS NOT "DANCING" TO PAY FOR SCHOOL CUZ THE BITCH ISNT IN SCHOOL!!! SO DONT EVEN LET THE BITCH LIE TO YOU.
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LMAO!!! SERIOUSLY THOUGH, JUST ABOUT EVERYONE OF THOSE WHORES SAYS WHEN YOU TALK TO THEM..."I'M JUST DOING THIS TO PAY FOR SCHOOL"!!! BITCH, STOP LYING, YOU AINT EVEN IN SCHOOL YOU WHORE!!!......LOL, THAT HAS BEEN KNOWN TO COME OUT OF MY MOUTH ONCE OR TWICE WHEN THEY TRY TO GET MY MONEY.
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one more note on strippers.. and them supposedly never dating their patrons.. that's complete bullshit...
those women are straight up hizzoes.. every single time.. seriously.. EVERY TIME.. my friends and i went into one of these classy establishments.. one of us as walked away with digits.. REAL digits (cuz i know some fucker's gonna say "they were fake digits")..
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those women are straight up hizzoes.. every single time.. seriously.. EVERY TIME.. my friends and i went into one of these classy establishments.. one of us as walked away with digits.. REAL digits (cuz i know some fucker's gonna say "they were fake digits")..
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I JUST SO HAPPENED TO GO INTO 2 TITTY BARS TONIGHT. WHICH IS A RARE OCCASION FOR ME. I COULD HAVE BROUGHT A BITCH HOME FROM BOTH PLACES. AND YES, BOTH HAD BOYFRIENDS. I ACTUALLY TOLD ONE OF THEM, "I DONT THINK YOUR MAN WOULD APPRECIATE YOU COMING HOME WITH ME" AND I WALKED OUT. LMAO. SHE FELT LIKE A COMPLETE IDIOT.
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THEY DONT DATE THEIR CUSTOMERS. THEY JUST FUCK THEM.
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THEY DONT DATE THEIR CUSTOMERS. THEY JUST FUCK THEM.
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yet another falsehood.. i've had many a fellow service member actually marry a stripper... only to have their marriage end in said servicemember ripping his hair out by the roots cuz his old lady was fucking every other patron and never showing up to her classes...
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decem said:
LMFAO!!!........WELL, IF SAID SERVICEMAN MARRIED A STRIPPER, HE DESERVED WHAT HE GOT.
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We should all go and discuss this with the strippers themselves at http://www.stripperpower.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi
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OK This thread is annoying the SHIT out of me. You guys are so God-damned judegmental. Like Non-stippers are NOT fucked up?
Oh yea, I forgot, there isn't a SINGLE FUCKED-UP MALE on the planet.
No offense, but if you don't want to "give the bitches your money" then WHAT THE FUCK are you doing in a strip club? Oh yea, "Why pay for it when you can get it for free?" Or "I'll just let THE OTHER guys pay for me."
WHAT THE FUCK?!
EASY MONEY? YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.... ANY WHO THINKS THAT DANCING OR STRIPPING (I can't comment on stripping because I only dance WITH my clothing on, not much but not much less than what I wear on a shoot or in competition.) is EASY should walk a mile in those 7" fucking shoes for 7 hours, have to smile and pretend like you give a fucking shit about ANY of the assholes that just walked through the door.
Do dancers/strippers hate men? Yea, I have to say that unless she has VERY GOOD ESTEEM and can separate entertainment and fantasy (that is SUPPOSED to be her job) from reality.
I have been dancing to support myself and my children (and yes, I told them BEFORE I eve set foot on the stage) for about eight months now and I have YET to date/leave with/kiss/give a lapdance or otherwise innappropriately engage a customer. Once a man walks through the door of a club where I work I would NEVER EVER even consider giving him the time of day outside of the club. Why? Because A)the facade that IS MY JOB is his first impression of me B)to some degree I think he is fucked up for coming in, in the first place... but I am not bitching. Hell, I LOVE those guys. If it weren't for them, I would not be able to work 2/3 days or nights per week and still be with my children MOST of the time and support us AND go to school (I am in the process of registering for the fall session now).
Are there strippers/dancers who are fucked up?
ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY. And I think it is a crime that so many young beautiful women allow themselves to be degraded by assholes every day. No one and I mean NO ONE EVER degrades me while I am working... I will NEVER allow this. There is more than one way to degrade/humiliate a patron when he is PURPOSELY trying to fuck with/degrade a dancer. Trust me - I know them ALL!
....And I rarely date. I don't have much of a desire to. Do I socialize with friends? Yes. Do I have adult relationships? Yes. But I do NOT have a desire to have or give a commitment, so what is the harm?
Any one who thinks they above someone because of the job they do (unless we are talking dealing crack or a hit man,etc) has issues themselvs. Believe me when I tell you that some of the most "respected" professionals are my BEST customers. I call them when I am working and they shower me to watch me dance and if I feel like it, I will sit with them between sets and chat. THAT IS IT. Would they love it if it were more? DUH! Don't you think I hear that shit EVERY FREAKING NIGHT?! PUH-LEASE!
Am I the shit? HELL NO. I am the shit to my girls, my family and handful of wonderful friends that have supported me when I hit rock bottom last year and will continue to support me regardless. Of this I have no doubt. Is this enough for me? ABSOLUTELY - AND THEN SOME.
Remember - Stereotypes are just that: stereotypes. What goes on in a club and what goes on in "the real world" are often times two completely different things.
Oh yea, I forgot, there isn't a SINGLE FUCKED-UP MALE on the planet.
No offense, but if you don't want to "give the bitches your money" then WHAT THE FUCK are you doing in a strip club? Oh yea, "Why pay for it when you can get it for free?" Or "I'll just let THE OTHER guys pay for me."
WHAT THE FUCK?!
EASY MONEY? YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.... ANY WHO THINKS THAT DANCING OR STRIPPING (I can't comment on stripping because I only dance WITH my clothing on, not much but not much less than what I wear on a shoot or in competition.) is EASY should walk a mile in those 7" fucking shoes for 7 hours, have to smile and pretend like you give a fucking shit about ANY of the assholes that just walked through the door.
Do dancers/strippers hate men? Yea, I have to say that unless she has VERY GOOD ESTEEM and can separate entertainment and fantasy (that is SUPPOSED to be her job) from reality.
I have been dancing to support myself and my children (and yes, I told them BEFORE I eve set foot on the stage) for about eight months now and I have YET to date/leave with/kiss/give a lapdance or otherwise innappropriately engage a customer. Once a man walks through the door of a club where I work I would NEVER EVER even consider giving him the time of day outside of the club. Why? Because A)the facade that IS MY JOB is his first impression of me B)to some degree I think he is fucked up for coming in, in the first place... but I am not bitching. Hell, I LOVE those guys. If it weren't for them, I would not be able to work 2/3 days or nights per week and still be with my children MOST of the time and support us AND go to school (I am in the process of registering for the fall session now).
Are there strippers/dancers who are fucked up?
ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY. And I think it is a crime that so many young beautiful women allow themselves to be degraded by assholes every day. No one and I mean NO ONE EVER degrades me while I am working... I will NEVER allow this. There is more than one way to degrade/humiliate a patron when he is PURPOSELY trying to fuck with/degrade a dancer. Trust me - I know them ALL!
....And I rarely date. I don't have much of a desire to. Do I socialize with friends? Yes. Do I have adult relationships? Yes. But I do NOT have a desire to have or give a commitment, so what is the harm?
Any one who thinks they above someone because of the job they do (unless we are talking dealing crack or a hit man,etc) has issues themselvs. Believe me when I tell you that some of the most "respected" professionals are my BEST customers. I call them when I am working and they shower me to watch me dance and if I feel like it, I will sit with them between sets and chat. THAT IS IT. Would they love it if it were more? DUH! Don't you think I hear that shit EVERY FREAKING NIGHT?! PUH-LEASE!
Am I the shit? HELL NO. I am the shit to my girls, my family and handful of wonderful friends that have supported me when I hit rock bottom last year and will continue to support me regardless. Of this I have no doubt. Is this enough for me? ABSOLUTELY - AND THEN SOME.
Remember - Stereotypes are just that: stereotypes. What goes on in a club and what goes on in "the real world" are often times two completely different things.
I know some strippers. In fact my best firend (a gal) is one. The thing is: most of them 90%, will rely on some drug to work (usually coke).SO it basically makes them fucked up a bit. Then imagine, you're dancing for some old farts, people that could easily be your dad or for some losers. This said, they'll most likely hate men or at least lose respect for them. Also remember that strippers will usually hang out with fellow strippers so this way they feel protected and thats where their big attitude come from.
Not all strippers clubs are created equal just like not all strippers are created equal. You guys must just be hanging out at the really seedy joints. IMO it is not a damn bit demeaning for the girl (she is laughing all the way to the bank) but it sure as hell is for the idiot that is handing over his paycheck - i,e. I am so pathetic that I have to pay to see a woman like this.
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manny78 said:
What you say is true about MANY who dance/strip, of that I am sure... HOWEVER
I do NOT socialize with ANY of my co-workers - PERIOD. (I do have one friend that is an ex-dancer and I did not meet her in that atmosphere.)
I have NEVER EVER taken ANY DRUG (coke, alcohol, whatever) in order to work WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AN OTC THERMOGENIC TO HELP KEEP ME FROM FALLING ASLEEP. The way I look at it, if I HAVE TO BE HIGH to do my job, then perhaps I should get another job... know whadda mean?
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I used to live in Boulder Colorado with three women who danced at the Busstop. One was a doctoral student working on her thesis. One was getting her master's in education. The third was a student with me at Naropa Institute. She was working on her third published collection of poetry... put out through Marpa House Publishing. None of them brought home sleazy guys... or for that matter pretty much any guys. One had a steady boyfriend... nice guy who ran a mailorder business... and one dated occasionally but not guys she met at the club. None of them used drugs, none drank, and the house was always clean and they paid their rent on time. They were all honest, dependable roommates that didn't cause problems and had many friends. They danced because they made a hell of a lot more stripping than they could make doing anything else... and it was a job that afforded them the ability to work far fewer hours.
None of them were emotionally screwed up any worse than any of my none stripper friends.
None of them were emotionally screwed up any worse than any of my none stripper friends.
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I don't know one freind of mine that's on drugs while at work......
None of my freinds really even drink while at work......
I've plead my case over and over again in the other "all strippers are whores" threads, so I won't go into it again other than saying what Bmom said "stereotypes are just that-stereotypes"
None of my freinds really even drink while at work......
I've plead my case over and over again in the other "all strippers are whores" threads, so I won't go into it again other than saying what Bmom said "stereotypes are just that-stereotypes"
I worked in the biz a long time as a bartender, doorman, manager...so I have seen it all. Are most strippers fucked up in some way?? Yes.
Are they all like that?? No.
I found the biggest problem many develop is not necessarily drugs but more of an "addiction" to attention. They get so used to everyone "kissing their ass" that they begin to believe the world revolves around them. In a way you really can't blame them, I am sure many here would develop quite an ego if everyday everyone was telling you how great your were, how beautiful you were, buying you things, etc. Hell, if you look around this site there are quite a few guys here who have pretty damn big egos.
Are they all like that?? No.
I found the biggest problem many develop is not necessarily drugs but more of an "addiction" to attention. They get so used to everyone "kissing their ass" that they begin to believe the world revolves around them. In a way you really can't blame them, I am sure many here would develop quite an ego if everyday everyone was telling you how great your were, how beautiful you were, buying you things, etc. Hell, if you look around this site there are quite a few guys here who have pretty damn big egos.
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Hmmm...Okay, Bikinimom's post has convinced me. They're all perfectly rational, controlled, even-tempered, and difficult to provoke.
BTW, if anyone actually visits the link I posted, you'll see that Will Brink did an interview about how strippers can best maintain a good physique--go, Will!
BTW, if anyone actually visits the link I posted, you'll see that Will Brink did an interview about how strippers can best maintain a good physique--go, Will!
I do not think that anyone who sits there and watches them for the entertainment is in a position to pass judgement on those people. So they may be fucked in the head, so what. Go to a club on the weekend and you will meet just as many or more fucked up girls then in a strip bar, there is no definite rule as to what job constitutes emotional disturbances, with prostitution being the POSSIBLE exception.
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All right, that is the most absolute bullshit i have ever heard. Have you used creatine? Well that is a drug, maybe not classified as such but it is. What, your liver makes it naturally so it's not a drug right? If you take it there is a feedback loop that stops the production of creatine in your liver. Sounds a lot like the testosterone my testicles make naturally, and stop making when i supplement more.
I hate reading shit like this from board members.
So when i turn 40 and go on HGH and Supplemental test to improve my body as well as internal organs and live a much MUCH better quality of life i will be looked upon as having a screw loose? Sounds like someone else has a screw loose and is way too judgemental.
This whole thread is judgemental. If we want to go that direction let's examine why those women with children are put in the position of having to dance in order to support them and spend time with them. If they are in fact man haters perhaps they have good reason to be such. I have a friend who is working on her MBA- full time student, has two children and works a full time day job. Her ex is loaded to put it mildly but because of the nature of the family business he is able to appear like a pauper on paper. He is taking the children on South American cruises while their mother is struggling to feed and cloth them let alone spend time with them. Dry humping a few horny old men would be a small price to pay for the reduction in her stress level. The ONLY thing that keeps her from doing it is that she knows he would try to take custody if she did. This is probably an extreme example but is also more common than most people realize. I think that behind every stripper with children there is most likely a father that needs his ass kicked.
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long story short everyone has emotional problems to one degree or another. The only people who don't are those that are dead.
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decem said:
I don't understand your comment. Please elaborate.
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Temple01 said:
Again....
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smokinghawk said:
Where in my post did I say anything about ALL? I think it is clear that I said NOT all.
You know, kind of like not ALL juiceheads have the IQ of a cricket?!IQ of a cricket. That was funny
Yes. The majority of strippers have deep seeded emotional issues, or else why would they be taking off their clothes night after night, infront of a room of strange men, displaying their body like a piece of meat ?
Because they need the money? Whats stoping them from going on social assistence or getting a honest job? Because social assistence is humilating?? And spreading ur pussy for bucks isnt?
Yes, strippers are fucked up, and yes they do it for the money. Call it for what it is.
But u know what? I like it. So I guess that makes me fucked up too. Sure, I love watching strippers take their clothes off, and I dont mind paying a few extra bucks to squeeze their tities. And they laugh at me for paying them money so they can rationalize their 'wayward' lifestyle. So be it. Both parties are getting what they want, and both parties are engaging in relativily "immoral" social behavour.
whoop de freakin do.
But to answer the question. yes, the majority of them are definitly more messed then ur average girl.
Yes. The majority of strippers have deep seeded emotional issues, or else why would they be taking off their clothes night after night, infront of a room of strange men, displaying their body like a piece of meat ?
Because they need the money? Whats stoping them from going on social assistence or getting a honest job? Because social assistence is humilating?? And spreading ur pussy for bucks isnt?
Yes, strippers are fucked up, and yes they do it for the money. Call it for what it is.
But u know what? I like it. So I guess that makes me fucked up too. Sure, I love watching strippers take their clothes off, and I dont mind paying a few extra bucks to squeeze their tities. And they laugh at me for paying them money so they can rationalize their 'wayward' lifestyle. So be it. Both parties are getting what they want, and both parties are engaging in relativily "immoral" social behavour.
whoop de freakin do.
But to answer the question. yes, the majority of them are definitly more messed then ur average girl.
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I wish!Daeo said:
Shit- I made a grand this WEEK! Ok, 3 days, but still......neve rmade that much in one day...
And I am TRYING to get a new Accord.
The Whole F/N Show
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We at least I know it's not just me. I like said, I just kinda dated a stripper one recently and known a few threw friends. Everyone has problems the the problem I'm talking about which prompted me to post this in the 1st place go beyond way those of the average person. That does make them bad people, just a more in need a therapy then a lot of people. And note, I didn't say all. I said most.
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To me, there are two kinds of strippers.The Whole F/N Show said:
There are the one's who dance just to make money--it's just a job. Albeit not a respectable job in most people's eyes, but a job.
These girls are either in school, or not, but if they are not they are not out partying all day and night and messed up in the head. They are just like the girl who works at Kmart and doesnt go to school......
Then, there are the ones who basically LIVE that life. They come in the dressing room (when I am leaving since I work days) already seeming to be fucked up, loud and obnoxious and everything seems to revlove around thier job/stripper lifestyle.
Most people who have these stereotypes of dancers have obviously met too many of the latter kind, and not encountered the normal girls.
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Daeo said:
i highly doubt that. the percentage of strippers that make a grand a night is probaly very low. its more like what alexiarenee said.
one of my friends strips, at a good club, and its not a grand a night.
your arguement is that just because they make alot of money and drive a lexus that they are happy. the fact is, is that typically the type of individual that does this for a living, has problems. (previous family problems, drug problems, etc,). your not considering the thousands of run down joints where its a dive. there are alot more of those than the upscale gentlemens clubs.
of course there are exceptions.
so before you start making guarantee's, and comments on how dumb this thread is, get your facts straight, this thread was about strippers that have emotional baggage, not that money can make you happy.
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alexiarenee said:
agreed. but then the ones who do it as just a job seem to really be the minority and some of them even get sucked into the lifestyle.
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The Whole F/N Show said:
I won't disagree with this statement. It can be very easy to get "sucked in" if you start to believe that ANYTHING that goes on at work is "real". None of it is. IT IS JUST A JOB; an extremely bizaare one at that.
Decem - I really don't think that anything that I said on this thread qualifies me as being "cuckoo". Please quote a singular comment I made that would put me in this category. I am not saying that I don't have a singular screw loose, but that is a different matter altogether. I am talking about my comments on THIS particualr thread.
After SEVEN HOURS of dancing in THE MOST God-awful shoes and what amounts to the teeny-weeniest bikini on the planet, if I walk out w/$300 I am very satisfied.... $200 is slow but still acceptable. There have been more than a few occasions when I have made LESS THAN THAT - sometimes WITH PAY. So now, who was saying something about a Lexus? In the eighties I heard that YES, it was VERY POSSIBLE for a DANCER - WITH CLOTHING ON - to make $1,000 p/night.... but those days are LOOOOOOOONG gone.
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Oh yeah. Plenty of times I have left with around 100........bikinimom said:
Everyone thinks we make so much damn $$$
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Like I have read many a times on this thread, everyone has problems, some people have more than others.
Some women are OK with nudity: to them it is not a big deal.
Some women do it JUST for the money, nothing else. They have families at home and are dancing to support themselves and/or their family.
Some women DO have emotional problems and take their jobs WAY TOO FAR. (hooking up with many 'clients,' etc)
There is a wide spectrum of women who dance exotically and each person is different, resulting in different behaviors.
Point being that there is no generalization or stereotype that can be applied to strippers, or anyone else.
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Some women are OK with nudity: to them it is not a big deal.
Some women do it JUST for the money, nothing else. They have families at home and are dancing to support themselves and/or their family.
Some women DO have emotional problems and take their jobs WAY TOO FAR. (hooking up with many 'clients,' etc)
There is a wide spectrum of women who dance exotically and each person is different, resulting in different behaviors.
Point being that there is no generalization or stereotype that can be applied to strippers, or anyone else.
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there are tons of hot chicks that could make a killing dancing topless. they could make much more money, and have way more free time. but they dont.
stop and think about why a hot girl would work two jobs just to have enough money to buy groceries for her kids and allow them to have health insurance. she is so busy working to suppory them she hardly has any time to see them. why not just get on stage and shake your tits in some guys face for $20.00?
economics may play a part in deciding whether or not to strip, but ultimately its a moral decision.
stop and think about why a hot girl would work two jobs just to have enough money to buy groceries for her kids and allow them to have health insurance. she is so busy working to suppory them she hardly has any time to see them. why not just get on stage and shake your tits in some guys face for $20.00?
economics may play a part in deciding whether or not to strip, but ultimately its a moral decision.
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bikinimom said:
Where in my post did I say anything about ALL? I think it is clear that I said NOT all.
No, I was just making a joke. The post was soaking in curses and YELLING, and I thought it was an ironic way to scold us for our prejudice that strippers have "issues."
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