Is it better to train triceps with chest OR biceps??

[lightout]

Hi
I am confused some people say its better to train triceps with chest some others say the biceps,what is right???

 

[blut wump]

Try some sets of close-grip bench as back-off sets to your main benching. It should see you fine. That's assuming you're doing some kind of pressing at least twice and preferably thrice per week. If not then consider that option first.

 

[oso0690]

Hi
I am confused some people say its better to train triceps with chest some others say the biceps,what is right???

I hate arm days. If you're doing some 1x muscle group a week, i'd say, get off of that and look up the stickies. As for your original question, I would rather work 'chest' (I prefer the word pressing or pushing because it works much more than just chest and trying to isolate the chest is plain stupid)

tri's after pressing will help you get the full workout for the compound movement that works more muscles at the same time, thus promoting more growth. Then, work on triceps for whatever purpose they serve for you.

 

[Pikaberdot]

I *never* train triceps + chest on the same day.... I think that if you do, you aren't getting all you can out of both muscle groups.

Ex - You will be fatigued before you should be on the bench if you do tricep isolation excercises first. Or if you do the bench first, then you will be fatigued before you should on the tricep isolation excercises.

 

[blut wump]

Drop the triceps isolation exercises, they're holding you back.

 

[Island Son]

depends on if you want size or endurance i think
for size do it with biceps (push/pull theory) ... but nowadays i also think a bi/tri day is a waste of a good day. YMMV.

 

[gjohnson5]

If you do heavy compound movements , you cannot escape doing triceps with chest.
If you do isolation chest workouts then you can split better. I would advice splitting both in a few weeks period

The drop sets for the tricep isolation was also a good idea

 

[gjohnson5]

I misread something. Blu said "DROP" the isolarion... I dunno skullcrushers are a good exersize. I also mix compound movements and isolation. I would never do the same thing over and over again. Variety is the key to growth more then anything in my experience

 

[big4life]

My workout split is like this.

chest/biceps

back/triceps

shoulder/traps

legs

I have been following this routine for awhile, and I like the way it works for me.

 

[Pikaberdot]

That's pretty interesting....
Sort of similar to mine:

Chest/Back (days 1+4)
Triceps/Biceps (days 2+5)
Shoulders/Traps/Legs (days 3+6)
Day 7 - Rest

 

[Smurfy]

That's pretty interesting....
Sort of similar to mine:

Chest/Back (days 1+4)
Triceps/Biceps (days 2+5)
Shoulders/Traps/Legs (days 3+6)
Day 7 - Rest

damn that's a lot of lifting. are these full-intensity workouts? your ability to recover must be top-notch.

 

[silver_shadow]

triceps done as assistance with chest exercises... keep the tri lifts down because if you've already gone heavy on chest (pressing) your tri's are going to be bombed out already... and triceps (arms for that matter) are much smaller muscles which require MUCH less load... more is not better here - more is worse.
PS: if you've done alot of pressing in any case, as blut said, it's probably better to drop tricep exercises altogether. or backoff sets of CGBP is a good idea after chest.

 

[xblitz44x]

Drop the triceps isolation exercises, they're holding you back.

Not that I have big arms... but they are bigger now than they have ever been and I've done exactly that: drop the triceps isolation exercises. I think a lot of people have a hard time trusting the advice because they see people doing rope pushdowns and one arm cable extensions all over: magazines, and websites, and in the gym. If one guy happens to be big and doing cable extensions in the gym, people see him and think: "Ah ha, so *that's* how he got big!"

My advice is that your 'tricep' training should be 3 sets of close-grip benching on your pressing days. Work on constantly increasing the weight, even if just by 5 lbs per week. If you put 30 lbs onto your close grip in 2-3 months and you're eating above maintenance, I can promise your triceps will have grown.

 

[jpt]

i would say if your training for strength i would do chest/tris in the same day. only do a few sets of tri's to ASSIST your chest training. maybe 2 sets of skull crushers and 2 sets of pushdowns...4-6 reps. heavy benches breed big triceps not the other way around.

if your training like a bodybuilder i would always do bis/tris together b/c your object here is not strength but muscularity. i got enormously strong lifting chest/tris when i was younger....but hey...everyone is different right?

 

[Pikaberdot]

damn that's a lot of lifting. are these full-intensity workouts? your ability to recover must be top-notch.

Always full intensity.

Must be the 3 huge scoops of peanut butter + glass of milk right before bed every night

 

[oso0690]

Always full intensity.

Must be the 3 huge scoops of peanut butter + glass of milk right before bed every night

Damnnn that's crazy. Do you take any weeks off/deload??

 

[Tweakle]

If he's using relatively light weights (which I assume he is given that schedule) he wont need to deload... yet.

Best triceps exercises imo, dips with 5 plates on your hips and closegrips with double bodyweight.. if that doesnt do much then I suggest lots of one arm kickbacks (with a twist of the pinky at the top to bring out the detail in the muscle)

 

[GrandMaster]

I *never* train triceps + chest on the same day.... I think that if you do, you aren't getting all you can out of both muscle groups.

Ex - You will be fatigued before you should be on the bench if you do tricep isolation excercises first. Or if you do the bench first, then you will be fatigued before you should on the tricep isolation excercises.

i dont really agree with that

i do my Tri's after my chest, and by them my tri's have warmed up and are ready to do some serious isolation presses