Is a PCT required?

[Smokescreen]

I got a friend who got a hold of some winstrol and dbol from another friend of his. He didn't get much. He told me he only has a months supply worth. He's concerned about getting shut down after he finishes the stack.

The question is....will he be shutdown? Will he require pct? If so what? He says he's broke as hell and can't really afford anything.

Again, does he need a pct? Will it have to be with pharm chems? Or can it be with an herbal?

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[Aplopez8]

Yeah he will .

 

[Nelson Montana]

Shut down as in zero LH? No.

Suppressed? Absolutely.

PCT? Why not?

 

[joeblow12345]

I got a friend who got a hold of some winstrol and dbol from another friend of his. He didn't get much. He told me he only has a months supply worth. He's concerned about getting shut down after he finishes the stack.

The question is....will he be shutdown? Will he require pct? If so what? He says he's broke as hell and can't really afford anything.

Again, does he need a pct? Will it have to be with pharm chems? Or can it be with an herbal?

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You always need a pct.

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[obsessedwliftin]

If your friend is that broke he is in the wrong sport. Tell him to not bother with aas until he can afford blood work, a legit cycle, pct, and ai's. Also food which is one of my biggest expenses and proper supplementation.

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[RADAR]

^^^^ agree! tell him to find another hobby!



Also Bodybuilding is a way of life not some half assed beach runner!

 

[stevesmi]

a months supply of winny and dbol.. and then he cannot afford anything else? he might as well not even bother.

anything he gains will slowly go away after a month or two with no pct plus he will suppress himself and feel like shit after this cycle.

this isn't a sport like basketball where you just show up at the court and shoot hoops, its a lifestyle.. and it does get expensive.. hell i spend close to a G every month on organic food alone.

 

[bastiaan89]

Agree with above posts.
That being said, I think he MIGHT be able to get away with no PCT using the winny but not the dbol.

 

[Judo Tom]

of course he can not run pct.. but there is a good chance he will lose almost all his gains..

maybe .. just maybe.. have him research the 10am dbol 'bridge'

 

[Smokescreen]

Ok well things changed. He decided to not do Dbol. For some reason he got scared of it. Why? No idea...don't really care. He gave them to me instead. Woohoo!!! Free Dbol for me! LOL

So now in his possession are a few tabs of Winstrol 50mgs tabs. He says if he splits the tabs he will have a 40 day supply.

What now? Does this change things up for him? Does he still need a PCT? If so...what? Can he get by on some OTC herbal PCT? Or will he really need a pharm chemical PCT?

 

[hurricane]

tell him to save u and use when he has enough money for a full cycle.And yes he should be doing a pct.He might not get fully shut down, but that doesnt mean he wont suffer supression .

 

[Smokescreen]

Will an herbal PCT like the new "recycle" I keep seeing in stores help him? Or something like Post-Cycle? Nelson? LOL

 

[stevesmi]

for such a short cycle like that tell him to get a bottle of unleashed and he will be good to go, run the whole bottle for PCT as directed.

but i agree with cane he should wait till he can afford a decent cycle and PCT.. winny tabs won't make him into a champion, nor will any steroid.. seems like he wants a magic pill here.

 

[Judo Tom]

if he cant afford pct thats a good sign that he cant afford the other things that go w/ the cycle..

good protein powder
good food
liver supps
etc

 

[joeblow12345]

Ok well things changed. He decided to not do Dbol. For some reason he got scared of it. Why? No idea...don't really care. He gave them to me instead. Woohoo!!! Free Dbol for me! LOL

So now in his possession are a few tabs of Winstrol 50mgs tabs. He says if he splits the tabs he will have a 40 day supply.

What now? Does this change things up for him? Does he still need a PCT? If so...what? Can he get by on some OTC herbal PCT? Or will he really need a pharm chemical PCT?

He is not prepared to do juice tell him to get a job or a better one and save money. In the mean time have him research steroid usage and everything that goes along with it. You always need a pct and otc crap you buy at gnc isnt going to cut it. These are not flinstones chewable vitamins they are powerful hormones that can be dangerous in the hands of amateurs.

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[JV]

I did a Dbol Superdrol stack (4 weeks), wasn't shut down, suppressed a liitle during the last week maybe. But it will give you gyno so keep anti-e on hand. Btw I did use a pct.. Imo your an idiot if you don't use at least a small otc pct product (which is what I did) They run $10- $20

 

[rich_89]

If there is ANY STEROID entering your body, i don't care if your 'buddy down the gym' tells you he has done it 50 times without a pct or if you have read that it is mild, YOU ALWAYS NEED A PCT.

PCT is part of a steroid cycle, not an addition. They are intrinsically linked, and thus go hand in hand.

 

[Smokescreen]

LOL! Yeah bros! He changed his mind. After I told him that he needed a PCT and this costs $$$$ he clearly changed his mind about doing anything! He's just a young buck anyways. Didn't know much and I didn't really have the time to explain to him how this game works.

 

[joeblow12345]

If hes young he shouldnt be using juice anyway.

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